Ahhhh Devrath WTH......And Hope I'm wrong? - Page 2

Originally posted by: capricornrcks

Seems like I'm in the minority.I'm with Devrath on this one.If my protegee on whom, I and the rest of the nation have placed our final hope, is running after a little girl at the eleventh hour like a lovesick puppy , you can bet your last penny that I'll take him away from there.And give him a good shakedown besides(if only he wasn't the Rajkumar).I think Acharya Devrath finds it hard to credit Ashok's love for Kaurwaki as anything other than calf-love or infatuation considering

1) their respective ages
2) Mauryavamshis' predilection for polygamy.AD must be telling himself that with the girl gone Ashok would easily find someone else.

Plus even if Ashok and Kaurwaki shared a once-in-a-lifetime amerprem, it would have to come in second to his responsibilities as a Rajkumar.If Ashok was a commoner he could put Kaurwaki as his No:1 priority and get away with it.But he's the Rajkumar of Magadh specially tasked with liberating Taxilla.Being royal means sacrificing yourself, your family everything for your nation.You can't ask for a work-life balance in this job.😆

@shailusri1983

You have raised some excellent points.Ashok and Acharya Devrath are still getting to know each other.It stands to reason that Ashok would not obey AD implicitly as he did with Acharya Chanakya.Acharya C would say "jump" and Ashok would only ask "How high?"

And he's still a teenager whose emotions are going haywire.Both Acharyas C &D have warned him about letting his emotions control him.But the point is that Ashok is doing nothing to curb his emotions.You'd have thought that he'd have learned something after the Prabhari Raja business.(Ashok got horsewhipped after impulsively hitting Sushim when the latter spouted insults about Dharma).If Ashok keeps making the same mistakes again and again I wonder how he became Samrat.

And he never considers that his luck would run out.Going out on his own when there's a price on his head was foolhardy.Acharya D had told him earlier that he had put someone to track Kaurwaki. If he didn't trust AD to take care of Kaurwaki business, he could have put a couple of his people in disguise in front of Keechak's Rajmahal.Or even send word to Keechak's Queen to keep an eye out for Kaurwaki.She'd have turned up there sooner or later.

Kaurwaki could be tracked by any no: of Ashok's people.But only Ashok could lead the rebellion.That's what a leader would do, get your priorities right and delegate.

Originally posted by: shailusri1983

No. You are not in the minority as far as this view on Devrath's goes elsewhere in the forum and general opinion also. I felt that both of them are right in their respective places. Ashok with all his greatness is and thinks like a teenager. Much as elders would love to condone it or exhorcise it out of the pysche, it happens as part of a person's coming of age.

Devrath is perhaps thirty-five or forty years and behaves with the maturity expected of his age while Ashok with the recklessness and immaturity that characterizes his age group. I know that Ashok is a royal and has to put public welfare before his own personal feelings. Easier said than done. Moreover he is a human being with his own set of flaws even though he has qualities that set him apart from the rest and show that he has the makings in him to be a great chakkravartin samrat.

My only qualm with Devrath's mentorship is the way he is dealing with Ashok knowing fully well the volatility of his age. You cannot force a troublesome teen to agree with you by force or reasoning. Try to see from where he is coming. If only Ashok had found Karuwaki, he would have been more focused on his job. Now all his faculties are getting dissipated in all directions.

I would have expected a person of Devrath's age and maturity to realize all this. At least, if Acharya Chankya had been alive, he would have dealt with Ashok in a much better way. Neither is Devrath very experienced as far as mentorship goes, nor is Ashok the ideal student at this moment. Both of them are learning the ropes on how to tackle a difficult situation.

Now this has resulted in Karuwaki doing something silly and getting caught. This will give an opportunity for Keechak to play with Ashok's emotional turmoil by using her against him. Sometimes it is best when not very difficult or dangerous to give a bit of leverage to a teenager and occasionally letting them have their own way! The elders need not always be right. What matters is the overall picture and the end result and not how we got there

Originally posted by: aditi37

Thanks shailja🤗 for explaining what I REALLY meant I don't know Capricorn read my post correctly or not but I never said Ashoka should not fulfill his motherland duty and I well aware it's his first priority and hands down for that but I did say Devrath should clear the mess of kaurwaki coz it was clearly distracting him and he should help him to fix it all so that he could concentrate on his real motive😊 and even you have compared archaraya chanakya on the rite spot becoz I remember Acharya chanakya the days bindusaar and Dharma case he was well aware he needs to find Dharma so that he could concentrate on the things properly and if Devrath did the same then Ashoka could see the things more clearly but here Devrath not ready to understand that persona and that's what I'm saying not some amar prem stuff like Capricorn said😆 but no doubt ashwaki will be soon amar prem like it said😉

Well aditi,I did read your post and I stand by what I said earlier.I can't blame Acharya Devrath for not putting Mission Kaurwaki on top of his to-do list.It is still in his list but not the greatest priority at the moment.Liberating Taxilla is. And Acharya D is Ashok's mentor.His job is to help Ashok reach his objective in the midst of all the distractions(eg: worry for Kaurwaki).Not take away the distractions to create an ideal environment for Ashok to flourish.In life there are never ideal circumstances.Ashok should learn to work in such circumstances.

As for Chanakya paving the way for Bindusar-Dharma punarmilan, AC's main motive was to find a perfect successor for the throne.Once he found Ashok, AC's plans were all for making Bindusar see Ashok as the perfect candidate.For that it was necessary that Bindusar and Dharma reunite and the former acknowledge Ashok as his son.Chanakya cared for Bindusar, sure. But his No.1 priority as always was Magadh's future and the Mauryan line.

And yes, I find the kiddie-love a little iffy. Sure, I'd love a future track concentrating on Ashwaki romance but right now Kaurwaki seems(looks) too young for love.

Originally posted by: capricornrcks

Well aditi,I did read your post and I stand by what I said earlier.I can't blame Acharya Devrath for not putting Mission Kaurwaki on top of his to-do list.It is still in his list but not the greatest priority at the moment.Liberating Taxilla is. And Acharya D is Ashok's mentor.His job is to help Ashok reach his objective in the midst of all the distractions(eg: worry for Kaurwaki).Not take away the distractions to create an ideal environment for Ashok to flourish.In life there are never ideal circumstances.Ashok should learn to work in such circumstances.

As for Chanakya paving the way for Bindusar-Dharma punarmilan, AC's main motive was to find a perfect successor for the throne.Once he found Ashok, AC's plans were all for making Bindusar see Ashok as the perfect candidate.For that it was necessary that Bindusar and Dharma reunite and the former acknowledge Ashok as his son.Chanakya cared for Bindusar, sure. But his No.1 priority as always was Magadh's future and the Mauryan line.

And yes, I find the kiddie-love a little iffy. Sure, I'd love a future track concentrating on Ashwaki romance but right now Kaurwaki seems(looks) too young for love.

Originally posted by: capricornrcks

@shailusri1983

You have raised some excellent points.Ashok and Acharya Devrath are still getting to know each other.It stands to reason that Ashok would not obey AD implicitly as he did with Acharya Chanakya.Acharya C would say "jump" and Ashok would only ask "How high?"

And he's still a teenager whose emotions are going haywire.Both Acharyas C &D have warned him about letting his emotions control him.But the point is that Ashok is doing nothing to curb his emotions.You'd have thought that he'd have learned something after the Prabhari Raja business.(Ashok got horsewhipped after impulsively hitting Sushim when the latter spouted insults about Dharma).If Ashok keeps making the same mistakes again and again I wonder how he became Samrat.

And he never considers that his luck would run out.Going out on his own when there's a price on his head was foolhardy.Acharya D had told him earlier that he had put someone to track Kaurwaki. If he didn't trust AD to take care of Kaurwaki business, he could have put a couple of his people in disguise in front of Keechak's Rajmahal.Or even send word to Keechak's Queen to keep an eye out for Kaurwaki.She'd have turned up there sooner or later.

Kaurwaki could be tracked by any no: of Ashok's people.But only Ashok could lead the rebellion.That's what a leader would do, get your priorities right and delegate.

Originally posted by: aditi37

I guess you forget one imp fact which chanakya mentioned that war should be from both mental and physical level and if one is not there and then there must be something lagging behind and even I feel not even Devrath but as well Ashoka first priority should be without any doubt his motherland but sometimes you have to resolve some small problems to achieve bigger so he surely need to help Ashoka on that coz even today's episode he was restless about the safety of kaurwaki beside his full dedication should be on Keechak but his heart still longing for Kaurwaki so chanakya was rite not Devrath coz he knows a warrior is successful when he hear both mind and heart and by achieving one he couldn't so even I stand by with my words

And rest I would say it's kind of hypocrisy coz if there was a romance between ahankara then its ok and if its with kaurwaki then they are so young😕 n I don't understand such double standard😕

Oh dear why ur post taken wrongly😆nothing wrong whatever you have mentioned infact it was fun ranting post but I don't get why can't people take things lightly coz you haven't mentioned anything like ashoka to give first priority or something coz you just explained here if devrath helped ashoka catching kaurwaki then things could have been different and just for example if kaurwaki was at ashoka side ,she could have figured the real motive and even more nobody could use her as bait for catching ashoka coz then the weakness factor would never came and nobody could ever use her against ashoka which is going to happen now just becoz devrath ignoring a major part and above the one you have mentioned aditi about heart and mind truly applied coz now ashoka heart will be on weaker side and also well said 👏while explaining for achieving big ,first you have resolve small infact royal Rajput king maharana pratap done the same ! He conquer small land first to win bigger one just same applied here if devrath want ashoka to defeat keechak ,first he need to fix smaller one like keeping kaurwaki away from danger😊

Originally posted by: Poonam0307

Oh dear why ur post taken wrongly😆nothing wrong whatever you have mentioned infact it was fun ranting post but I don't get why can't people take things lightly coz you haven't mentioned anything like ashoka to give first priority or something coz you just explained here if devrath helped ashoka catching kaurwaki then things could have been different and just for example if kaurwaki was at ashoka side ,she could have figured the real motive and even more nobody could use her as bait for catching ashoka coz then the weakness factor would never came and nobody could ever use her against ashoka which is going to happen now just becoz devrath ignoring a major part and above the one you have mentioned aditi about heart and mind truly applied coz now ashoka heart will be on weaker side and also well said 👏while explaining for achieving big ,first you have resolve small infact royal Rajput king maharana pratap done the same ! He conquer small land first to win bigger one just same applied here if devrath want ashoka to defeat keechak ,first he need to fix smaller one like keeping kaurwaki away from danger😊

But I don't understand why people keep saying the lead are young when already ashoka as sid achieved so much at such age I really don't het why people discriminate reem on the same ground and honestly I enjoy watching both just like earlier I enjoyed watching young praja aka ajabde as roshini and pratap as faisal who were also young and even there cute romantic set up was set so I feel if people not liking it they better stop watching it for a while beside ruining others fun who are enjoying it🤔

Awww thanks poonam🤗 for clearly specifying all and happy to hear even you were fan of praja infact I really miss roshal😳 they were so cute just like ashwaki now😳and rest let them be it's their opinion which we can never change😊

Originally posted by: aditi37

Awww thanks poonam🤗 for clearly specifying all and happy to hear even you were fan of praja infact I really miss roshal😳 they were so cute just like ashwaki now😳and rest let them be it's their opinion which we can never change😊

Originally posted by: shailusri1983

I agree with Poonam on the fact that your post was originally a fun and ranting post. But when Capricorn raised those points, I couldn't help putting forward a few of mine making it a very serious discussion post. I actually get from where both Aditi and Capricorn are coming from. My post was not meant to hurt anyone. Don't loose heart Aditi. Not everyone loves romance in a historical show. I for one love it when it shown properly as in the case of Praja in Maharana Pratap or like Rajat Tokas and Mughda in Prithviraj Chauhan.

Oh dear shailja😳 you haven't offended me at all infact I totally agree with whatever you said but totally disagree with Capricorn for obvious reason coz I don't agree with whatever he/she said and I wasn't disheartened either😳 it just irked me just becoz they are not liking one ,they are making a excuse of their age beside even I love watching such cute romance coz it's not like makers are showing hardcore intimacy and it's just perfect clear and pure romance coz cvs knows there's always a limitation but still it does make the show impactful and lovely and like I said earlier if they are not enjoying it they skip the portion just like I used to do while ahankara and ashoka portions beside ashoka's gesture was friendly and there's a zero romantic involvement but still I just can't bear the two together coz I never liked them so I used to change the channel so why don't they 😆infact it will help them to become little less negative😉