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Originally posted by: RadhikaS0

Abhay

Chanakya is being developed as a grey character. Yesterday he had an encounter with Rakshasacharya, the 1st Mahamatya of CM (really?). RA accused Chanakya of passing off his own ambitions as concern for Magadh and stifling all opposition.

This set me thinking. How selfless was Chanakya's dedication to Magadh? DId he have any personal ambitions too that he hid well under the garb of public concern?

The game between Chanakya and Helena is interesting. Both are trying to be one up on the other. :)

Agree that "historical" shows on TV are all NR with a pinch of history, mostly in the form of characters.

Lot of things are unpalatable in Ashoka - the Justin-Nur affair, Charumitra's black magic, the living in oblivion to everything king who relies more on Dharma (whose standing in the royal palace is presently that of a physician ?) than anyone else. I am watching it for entertainment only. :)

The less said about the other historical shows and their NR, the better. Recently Akbar in 2 shows is facing God's wrath in the form of insects and monkeys, respectively. LOL I just hope Bindusara has better luck.

Originally posted by: aparupanath

😲yes, the show seems to be 50-60 per cent fictional. though the casts are doing well. and about chanakya[ manoj joshi], he has a very good diction.😊

Originally posted by: RadhikaS0

Abhay

Chanakya is being developed as a grey character. Yesterday he had an encounter with Rakshasacharya, the 1st Mahamatya of CM (really?). RA accused Chanakya of passing off his own ambitions as concern for Magadh and stifling all opposition.

This set me thinking. How selfless was Chanakya's dedication to Magadh? DId he have any personal ambitions too that he hid well under the garb of public concern?

The game between Chanakya and Helena is interesting. Both are trying to be one up on the other. :)

Agree that "historical" shows on TV are all NR with a pinch of history, mostly in the form of characters.

Lot of things are unpalatable in Ashoka - the Justin-Nur affair, Charumitra's black magic, the living in oblivion to everything king who relies more on Dharma (whose standing in the royal palace is presently that of a physician ?) than anyone else. I am watching it for entertainment only. :)

The less said about the other historical shows and their NR, the better. Recently Akbar in 2 shows is facing God's wrath in the form of insects and monkeys, respectively. LOL I just hope Bindusara has better luck.

Originally posted by: history_geek

Agreed my friend.

Despite the majorly fictitious storyline it is the cast which is doing a good job. And yes, i am myself a fan of Chanakya and his portrayal till now has been strong, which is a bit assuring for me. :)

Originally posted by: history_geek

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Agreed my friend.

Despite the majorly fictitious storyline it is the cast which is doing a good job. And yes, i am myself a fan of Chanakya and his portrayal till now has bceen strong, which is a bit assuring for me. :)</font>

Originally posted by: Kaana

Abhay, only today I caught up on the show - had been off if for two weeks. I like Chanakya's portrayal - I dread NR of his character every minute if watching the show though. I thought Dharma and Ashoka's real identity might be the winning coin, as they showed him succumbing to Yunani's threat message- but our man rose out of all this! In the name if NR, portraying him super intelligent is good, which is anyway the truth, but as said before portraying him foolish is something that I dread. I can't belief that Helena had a gupt path to reach her dad - which Chanakya was not aware of. Also, every witness is bring attacked and Chanakya allowing them is surprising. He should have safe guarded Ugrasen knowing as bug as Heleba's hand on it. Anyway relief came when the next fellow was held in secret.
And I loved Chanakya's dialog on himsa VS ahimsa to Dharma - such a pertinent point. Shows his clarity.

Originally posted by: history_geek

Radhika,

Is this new entry -> Rakshasacharya , or Amatya Rakshasa ? If it is, then i have not known of "enmity" between him and Chanakya till now. If i remember correctly, these two were not rivals. Need to read more , right now was busy in Bindusara - Dharma angle.!

Can you or anyone brief it here about this new entry? :)
Agreed with every thing in your comment, esp the last para. :-P

Another thing which you informed me about Justin - Nur angle was horrifying, but we do have such cases in history in some other Empires at least. I am liking Chanakya shown as a strong headed person till now.

The thing is if we watch it as a normal show forgetting history then it can be enjoyed. Gone are the days of DoodDarshan series where we used to get amazing story lines.!

Originally posted by: RadhikaS0

Abhay

I watched Ashoka after quite a few days on Friday. But I will tell you something.

Do you remember the amatya who is with Justin and Helena and almost crowned Justin the king when Bindusara was missing initially? Then there is another amatya who became the mahamatya on Chankaya's recommendation.

Well this 3rd person whom Chanakya calls Rakshasacharya is different. New entry I guess. Though I could be wrong.

There is one person in prison whom Chanakya fools into escaping so that he would lead Chanakya's men to his boss. The boss turns out to be Rakshasacharya. He and CHanakya seem to be bitter rivals and enemies from their dialogs. From their convo, I learnt that RA was the 1st mahamatya of Chandragupta Maurya and had ambitions to be king himself. He in turn accuses Chanakya of being personally ambitious and doing everything for selfish gain in the garb of doing welfare for Magadh.

Chanakya wants him to reveal proof of Helena's involvement in the attack on Bindusara. RA says he will reveal all proofs to Bindusara if Chanakya will first behead himself. Chanakya then removes the necklace of RA and has him hooded and taken away to a secret hideout. Chanakya will use that necklace to blackmail Helena that RA has revealed everything about her (though he has not really) and he (Chanakya) knows her truth.

Meanwhile the stable boy Balgovind will reveal to Helena that Ashoka is Dharma's son and had refused to go to the royal school on her orders. So Helena may link DHarma to Chanakya's "plot of installing Ashoka as king" - which is what she feels.

Next week, we will see an interesting faceoff between these 2 key players - Helena and CHanakya. :)

How far have you come in your study of the Bindusara Dharma angle? :)