Zoya on The Daily Show

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Posted: 1 years ago
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She went to The Daily Show to promote The Archies. smiley37 I can't. Why was this not publicised as much.

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Posted: 1 years ago
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This happened a week ago ? I thought it would've been all over everywhere. T4S. The audience got very excited on Hrithik and Ranveers names

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Posted: 1 years ago
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If you look at Rotten Tomatoes, the Archies is certified fresh. Albeit its only 64% not in the 90s like critical darlings. A majority of the negative reviews are coming from South Asian critics.

https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/the_archies/reviews

I planned to hate watch after all my friends hated it - but surprisingly, I enjoyed it. It was in Netflix's top 10 in the USA when it was released.

My theory is that The Archies was made for Western sensibilities. Zoya is trying to establish herself with Western audiences - perhaps in the hopes of getting more opportunities in the West. Foreign language and regional filmmakers have been recently doing well in the West. And it makes sense to use Archies as that launch pad. She ingratiates herself to nepo parents in India. But the Western audiences who have no clue about Indian media and film dynasties don't have the nepo lens at all.

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Posted: 1 years ago
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Originally posted by: return_to_hades

My theory is that The Archies was made for Western sensibilities. Zoya is trying to establish herself with Western audiences - perhaps in the hopes of getting more opportunities in the West. Foreign language and regional filmmakers have been recently doing well in the West. And it makes sense to use Archies as that launch pad. She ingratiates herself to nepo parents in India. But the Western audiences who have no clue about Indian media and film dynasties don't have the nepo lens at all.

Interesting take. She does seem to have a close equation with Kal Penn if we go by this interview. She could very well strike an OTT movie deal, if not a direct HW launch.

But I want to add that regional filmmakers who do well in the west are those who make movies with or around the culture of their region, like RRR by Rajamouli. It's novel and different from HW. If Zoya's plan is to copy western sensibilities and appease to that crowd, then she wouldn't have much success. She should stick to poverty p*rn, that she seems to do best.

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Interesting take. She does seem to have a close equation with Kal Penn if we go by this interview. She could very well strike an OTT movie deal, if not a direct HW launch.

But I want to add that regional filmmakers who do well in the west are those who make movies with or around the culture of their region, like RRR by Rajamouli. It's novel and different from HW. If Zoya's plan is to copy western sensibilities and appease to that crowd, then she wouldn't have much success. She should stick to poverty p*rn, that she seems to do best.

You're right about the aesthetics of international and regional filmmakers. The successful ones are rooted in their home culture.

I would not have thought of this angle until I saw how well it fared on Netflix and was received positively by Western critics. Perhaps its a coincidence. But perhaps she's trying to get a more lucrative OTT deal that gets marketed to international audiences.

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Posted: 1 years ago
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Originally posted by: ohophelia

Interesting take. She does seem to have a close equation with Kal Penn if we go by this interview. She could very well strike an OTT movie deal, if not a direct HW launch.

But I want to add that regional filmmakers who do well in the west are those who make movies with or around the culture of their region, like RRR by Rajamouli. It's novel and different from HW. If Zoya's plan is to copy western sensibilities and appease to that crowd, then she wouldn't have much success. She should stick to poverty p*rn, that she seems to do best.

LA loooooouuuuves movies about British atrocities and BAFTA's love goes the other way round. If some PoC director made a movie bashing both, they would each have an identity crisis

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Posted: 1 years ago
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Hack-tar has zero self-awareness, recycles basic tropes, and tries to pass it off as intelligent cinema.

Archies is a film about rich people ripping society and the environment apart filled with kids of people who likely do rip society apart for profit.

Then you have Gully Boy, where she once again is parading around Nepo kids and Ranveer rapping verses about rich people barricading entry and hoarding all the resources for their kids while sanitizing these songs to get rid of their political context completely.

And don't get me started on Luck By Chance.

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Originally posted by: return_to_hades

If you look at Rotten Tomatoes, the Archies is certified fresh. Albeit its only 64% not in the 90s like critical darlings. A majority of the negative reviews are coming from South Asian critics.

https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/the_archies/reviews

I planned to hate watch after all my friends hated it - but surprisingly, I enjoyed it. It was in Netflix's top 10 in the USA when it was released.

My theory is that The Archies was made for Western sensibilities. Zoya is trying to establish herself with Western audiences - perhaps in the hopes of getting more opportunities in the West. Foreign language and regional filmmakers have been recently doing well in the West. And it makes sense to use Archies as that launch pad. She ingratiates herself to nepo parents in India. But the Western audiences who have no clue about Indian media and film dynasties don't have the nepo lens at all.

That's a common story. Non-brown critics are fairly easy on Indian cinema because they are not quite sure what they are reviewing. Suhana's cringe is also probably much easier on the ear when you don't understand the language.

It is a 22-vote sample, and at that point, the people reviewing it are most likely trades who have been asked to review it. Almost all movies have their highest RT scores in the first 50-60 reviews because those are usually the PR-influenced outlets. Mind you a 64 is horrible for only 22 reviews.

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