Kashmir files - Review thread - Page 25

Originally posted by: Kyahikahoon

Someone said Rahul Desai didn't love the film..he was the writer of that infamous filmy companion review for which he and Anupama Chopra faced flak.

Anyways doesn't matter. People like him or the reviewer of The Hindu are among the minority who didn't like the film. Nonetheless..they watched. And that's what matters

I edited my comment because I wasn’t sure where I read that comment but you quoted me before I did. Anyway, I agree with his review. I don’t understand why Vivek was crying about some people not liking his movie. Did he think he made some masterpiece? Why should the people who didn’t like the movie be trolled or face flak? Is it some zabardasti that everyone has to like everything? The movie was at best a below average affair.

Originally posted by: Kyahikahoon

Such a knowledgeable thread..wasn't aware of this 👇

https://twitter.com/Aabhas24/status/1504005258976333824?t=D0FyOeHN6mL5rxz_BfbMow&s=19

Sad that a land of such great knowledge and wisdom is today known as the hub of terrorism n violence..a paradise lost.

Shardapeeth was also destroyed. Maa Sharda jahan se chali jaaye wahan Sukh aur Shaanti kaise aayegi.

Maybe that's the reason KPs were able to rebuild their lives elsewhere. They left everything behind but not their knowledge n wisdom.

I have known about AbhinavGupta and swami LakshmanJoo particularly in relation to kashmir Shaivism. However most have no idea about Kasmir Shaivism and related books like Shiva sutras etc. Kashmir Shaivism is actually very important in perspective of yoga and meditation.

I agree the film has some level of political agenda but so has had congress since so many years. VA is clearly anti congress, but truly i feel congress pandered a lot to KM population and were ready to put everything under the rug. Them honouring a terrorist, and manmohan singh doing a smiling photo op with him, i am glad they got called out. They don't even want to acknowledge all this happened, or as if exodus of 5 lakh population is just a minor inconvenience.

It might not be a masterpiece in terms of film making but atleast it uncovered an uncomfortable truth

Originally posted by: Moodyblue

I agree the film has some level of political agenda but so has had congress since so many years. VA is clearly anti congress, but truly i feel congress pandered a lot to KM population and were ready to put everything under the rug. Them honouring a terrorist, and manmohan singh doing a smiling photo op with him, i am glad they got called out. They don't even want to acknowledge all this happened, or as if exodus of 5 lakh population is just a minor inconvenience.

It might not be a masterpiece in terms of film making but atleast it uncovered an uncomfortable truth

What exactly did it uncover? The plight wasn’t even shown properly, thanks to their non-linear format of storytelling. Whatever was shown, don’t we all know already in terms of the documentaries and news clippings? How is congress only to be blamed when they weren’t even in the power when it actually happened? Not a single party has done anything for the KPs, why single out only Congress? And what was that dramatization of a Kashmiri Pandit demanding for Article 370 so that he can go back to his home? Wasn’t that a lie in our faces considering the Kashmiri Pandits have full constitutional rights to go back even with the Article 370 in place? I must say the director didn’t surprise me with his dishonest presentation.

First of all congress was in power in the centre at that time, and have ties to organisations who mask as just as wanting azadi for kashmir , for atrocities against km as if km people aren't half responsible for the chaos in kashmir, as if many of them just didn't help in throwing kps out of the Kashmir. Many young km's at that time were filled with hate against our community, and those who weren't couldn't just go against the mandate fearing for their lives.

Do you thing kp's can just pick up their bags and live in kashmir as if nothing happened! Article 370 made kashmir an autonomous state with separate constitution and thus people from other states couldn't buy property their, as many people advocate that kashmir being muslim majority should just go for azadi and it isn't part of india.

As far as people knowing about all this, no people don't know. You will be surprised how many people think that exodus was just threats and kp's were darpok and just left on their own volation. As far as current government, see i would not defend them as i don't approve of many of their tactics.

Originally posted by: Moodyblue

First of all congress was in power in the centre at that time, and have ties to organisations who mask as just as wanting azadi for kashmir , for atrocities against km as if km people aren't half responsible for the chaos in kashmir, as if many of them just didn't help in throwing kps out of the Kashmir. Many young km's at that time were filled with hate against our community, and those who weren't couldn't just go against the mandate fearing for their lives.

Do you thing kp's can just pick up their bags and live in kashmir as if nothing happened! Article 370 made kashmir an autonomous state with separate constitution and thus people from other states couldn't buy property their, as many people advocate that kashmir being muslim majority should just go for azadi and it isn't part of india.

As far as people knowing about all this, no people don't know. You will be surprised how many people think that exodus was just threats and kp's were darpok and just left on their own volation. As far as current government, see i would not defend them as i don't approve of many of their tactics.

National Front (NF) was a coalition of political parties, of the Janata Dal and BJP which formed India's government between 1989 and 1990 under the leadership of N. T. Rama Rao, popularly known as NTR, as President of national front and V. P. Singh as Convener. The coalition's prime minister was V. P. Singh later succeeded by Chandra Shekhar. The parties in the Front were: Janata Dal at national level, Telugu Desam Party of Andhra Pradesh, Dravida Munnetra Kazhagam of Tamil Nadu, and Asom Gana Parishad of Assam and Indian Congress (Socialist). They were supported from outside by the Left Front. The Leader of the Opposition, P. Upendra was a General Secretary of the Front at its formation.

In 1991, Jharkhand Mukti Morcha became a part of the Front. TDP split in 1995, with a minority faction siding with N. T. Rama Rao and the majority faction choosing to side with Chandrababu Naidu. The Front collapsed before the Lok Sabha elections of 1996, when NF tried to rope in both DMK and AIADMK, resulting in the DMK walking out. After NTR died of a heart attack in January 1996, Janata Dal stood by Rama Rao's widow Lakshmi Parvathi while Left parties formed an alliance with Chandrababu Naidu.

source is from wikipedia - type Third Front (India) in search box

Ok congress wasn't in centre but the events leading to it, i stand corrected. If anyone wants to know more about what happened please read book by the then governer mr jagmohan , "my frozen turbulences in kashmir'. One of the theory is that mr jagmohan who was appointed by the congress as a governer facilitated the exodus of Kashmiri pandits because he could not provide them with security but many km say that exodus happened to make the hindus safe so that they could live an easy life and km's could be killed. He was the governer from 1985-89 too when militancy was at peak

Originally posted by: Moodyblue

First of all congress was in power in the centre at that time, and have ties to organisations who mask as just as wanting azadi for kashmir , for atrocities against km as if km people aren't half responsible for the chaos in kashmir, as if many of them just didn't help in throwing kps out of the Kashmir. Many young km's at that time were filled with hate against our community, and those who weren't couldn't just go against the mandate fearing for their lives.

Do you thing kp's can just pick up their bags and live in kashmir as if nothing happened! Article 370 made kashmir an autonomous state with separate constitution and thus people from other states couldn't buy property their, as many people advocate that kashmir being muslim majority should just go for azadi and it isn't part of india.

As far as people knowing about all this, no people don't know. You will be surprised how many people think that exodus was just threats and kp's were darpok and just left on their own volation. As far as current government, see i would not defend them as i don't approve of many of their tactics.

People who chose not to convert can in no way be called Darpok..they were brave enough to resist and preserve their culture elsewhere.

There r documentaries n books but none of those have a mass appeal of a movie. So this was needed.

Those who want to see agenda will see that, no issues. everyone has different takeaways. Opinions are subjective

Seems 99% public liking it except for usual suspects like left/liberals and Ms which is to be expected.

Have read several reviews of KPs and how it resonates with them. Will trust and take their reviews anyday over others on this subject/movie.

Originally posted by: Moodyblue

Ok congress wasn't in centre but the events leading to it, i stand corrected. If anyone wants to know more about what happened please read book by the then governer mr jagmohan , "my frozen turbulences in kashmir'. One of the theory is that mr jagmohan who was appointed by the congress as a governer facilitated the exodus of Kashmiri pandits because he could not provide them with security but many km say that exodus happened to make the hindus safe so that they could live an easy life and km's could be killed. He was the governer from 1985-89 too when militancy was at peak

Congress was in centre...it wasn't a one off thing. It's not like this happened overnight. It was a simmering problem. And wasn't even a month since V P singh became the PM. Congress was very much in power up until then. U know KPs were leaving Kashmir even till 2011? Few returned in between and had to leave again coz of militancy?

As for the Jagmohan theory..it's busted time n again. But those who don't want to read n understand won't. Those who want can read. It's all there