Why no heroine oriented commercial entertainers in BW anymore? - Page 4

Because crying in art film is acting and crying in commercial film is not acting

Because big heroines are afraid to do big commerical movies riding on thier shoulders, and directors and producers don't trust them either. And it was like that forever, it is just that the movies you mentioned became hit, otherwise this has been the rule ever since ages.

What happened to Nagina? Chandni? Beta, which audience said should've been called Beti? Raja, which they said should've been called Rani?

The female leads carried these movies.

None of the ladies who came after have been of the same stature.

One other thing... starting with the late 90s, movies seem to be made for either the young adult audience or the lowest common denominator. Sadly, neither group is likely to flock to female-led movies.

Didn't the growing popularity of TV cause a change?

Since TV is primarily a women-dominated and oriented medium. Almost all shows in the 2000s were based on the dilemmas of the bahu, her relation with her saas, a heartless husband and how she tries to be the "aadarsh bahu" trying to bring the family together.

Nothing much has changed since then. We still get the same old storylines in updated technology. And what's more, they do have their female demographic audience watching.

So when there's 5 days a week of women oriented content (even though its terrible), would the audience want to watch a similar concept on screen?

TWM wad big hit but not to level of gross to be amongst the top 2. Seeta Aura Geeta, Nagina for example were amongst top 2 grossers of the year, Nagina being a low budget with low key director was biggest solo hit of the years, Other being multistarrer sridevi's own film karma taking the top spot.interms of gross. Ajab prem ki gajab Kahani where katrina was solo star of the movie with author backed role hit the top 2 spot which the last time a female centric movie done huge.

Chaalbaaz both rajni and Sunny deol were not big stars, rajni maybe in south in bollywood he was not big star and sunny just started out.

I think the OP is talking about where female lead were the central characters or in titular role

Originally posted by: Lalakhun1

Because crying in art film is acting and crying in commercial film is not acting

Thats just illogical. Darr Baazigar were commercial movies so that means srk acted shit according to your logic lol.

Yes this. Exactly this was what I felt strongly about.

Remember how people said Mr India should have been called Miss India because Sridevi stole thunder from right under Anil's nose in that film? And how people said Beta should have been called Beti because Madhuri carried that film on her shoulders?

Even for Raja Hindustani people had said it should have been called Rani Hindustani because Karishma stole the thunder in that film and became way more famous for her makeover, looks, songs and kissing scene.

It has been ages since we saw a film where heroine stole the thunder or carried film entirely on her shoulders and made it a BB or ATBB on her own appeal.

I think partly today's audience may also be, perhaps regressive? They avoid flocking to watch films led by female superstars or where female superstar overshadows everyone? I mean Kareena is highlight of JWM but that film just became a hit. Not a BB or biggest grosser of the year. Given the good music and performances it had, I wish JWM had done much better than what it did in 2007.

In 90s we had Rangeela, Biwi No. 1, Taal, HDDCS, Beta, Raja Hindustani, Pyar kiya toh darna kya where heroines easily dominated the film. We have had much less of such films later. IDK if it is due to lack of talented stars, lack of will on part of filmmakers and writers to give good roles to women in commercial entertainers or just audience being regressive and not too keen to lap up films where female has better role?

Oh please. Sunny Deol was one of BIGGEST stars of 1980s and 90s. And Rajinikanth was the biggest superstar down South.

It is erroneous to say Sunny and Rajini were not big stars when they did Chaalbaaz. For that matter, Dharmendra was senior to Hema Malini and more established when he did Seeta Aur Geeta.

Rajinikanth may not have succeeded much in Hindi films but he was a name big enough to be able to refuse a film if he did not like his role in it.

Sunny had already established his action hero image and could have refused to do Chaalbaaz but he did not.

Heroes were not that insecure back then. Unlike today's times when even newcomers dislike doing films where heroine has better role.

Vinod Khanna was neck to neck with Amitabh in competition in late 70s when he agreed to play Hema's husband in Meerabai despite knowing that role of husband in Meera biopic is rather small and a bit negative as his character does not like wife being too religious and being in religious activity all the time. He did not refuse to do that film fearing he would be sidelined or his image would be dented playing Meerabai's husband.

For that matter even Rajesh Khanna did not hesitate to do Kati Patang and Aradhana despite knowing heroine had author backed role. He managed to outshine his heroines anyway due to his charisma.

Originally posted by: harun98

Thats just illogical. Darr Baazigar were commercial movies so that means srk acted shit according to your logic lol.

that is the logic of other people not mine for actress / heroine, actors dont get such comment though