Effeminate and Tomboys. - Page 15

Originally posted by: Heisenberg17_

Well if effeminate traits were so attractive to women, effeminate men would have the sexual advantage , and you wouldn't have made this thread throwing your lil temper tantrum. But they don't, so cope.

Why is "social conditioning" the way it is, a society is made up of men and women, differences between them in part have a biological basis, these differences manifests itself in numerous ways later in life. I mean if it was truly random, we should have cultures where effeminate men are desirable to women, and masculine traits are undesirable, show me one culture where this is the case.

You didn't answer my question.

What are those certain desirable traits which make women not choose effeminate men?

What makes offsprings of effeminate men not good at surviving?

I know very well that most women are not attracted to effeminate men. I threw a "temper tantrum" because some people like you have to use pseudoscience to justify yourself, because maybe internally you all feel guilty for not being "woke".

All societies don't accept effeminate men or find masculine traits desirable, is because men are and were always considered superior to women. Rules of society are made by men. So obviously they would be biased.

So yes, it's all social conditioning. Gender stereotypes which always forced men and women to act as per society.

Originally posted by: AwaamKiJaan

You didn't answer my question.

What are those certain desirable traits which make women not choose effeminate men?

What makes offsprings of effeminate men not good at surviving?

I know very well that most women are not attracted to effeminate men. I threw a "temper tantrum" because some people like you have to use pseudoscience to justify yourself, because maybe internally you all feel guilty for not being "woke".

All societies don't accept effeminate men or find masculine traits desirable, is because men are and were always considered superior to women. Rules of society are made by men. So obviously they would be biased.

So yes, it's all social conditioning. Gender stereotypes which always forced men and women to act as per society.

@ bold : wouldn't that be masculinity? .. your question sorta answers itself , doesn't it ? .. 😕

I don't think it is fair to make anyone feel 'guilty' about their sexual preferences .. homosexuals or otherwise .. 😊

Originally posted by: Heisenberg17_

I will qualifier it further, don't see it changing in my lifetime. Some things like sexuality, attraction, are quite innate, otherwise some cultures like the Islamic/Christian ones, should've socially engineered homosexuality out of existence by now. I'll make a another bold prediction, you're never going to convince men that a 500lb fat woman is more attractive than say Jacqueline Fernandez.

Sexual dimorphism is denied by the woke crowd, you've got people claiming that gender/sex are social constructs, that there is no difference between men and women except what's between the legs, and this nonsense is starting to have real world consequences. Already you have biological men who now identify as women, competing in female sports and beating them, in UK they'll start putting trans women in female jails. Despite gender roles breaking down, straight men and women still generally seek characteristics in one another that have always appealed to them.

Great, you are accepting you made predictions rather than straight out lying in your previous reply by saying "I never made any prediction". Ofcourse you will qualify it because the more I challenge your assumption, more unsure you are becoming. Good luck!

Originally posted by: --Pro.vo.King--

@ bold : wouldn't that be masculinity? .. your question sorta answers itself , doesn't it ? .. 😕

I don't think it is fair to make anyone feel 'guilty' about their sexual preferences .. homosexuals or otherwise .. 😊

What is masculinity? If it is about being muscular, effeminate men can be muscular.

Effeminacy has more to do with the way of talking, walking, standing, sitting, showing emotions etc. which are considered feminine by society. Again it's the society which defines all these things.

I don't think I'm making anyone feel guilty about their sexual preference. Them trying to justify their own sexual preference or types shows they are themselves feeling guilty for it for whatever reason.

Originally posted by: Mahisa_22

What's interesting is that I've had wavy hair my whole life and will never have to entertain the thought of dyeing my hair. I'm pseudo-white with natural brown hair (since birth!) and greenish-grey eyes. 😆

WOW😲......Have you ever researched your family tree...chances are that you have a Caucasian ancestor....sometimes the genes become dominant at a later generation...

Originally posted by: blue-ice.1

WOW😲......Have you ever researched your family tree...chances are that you have a Caucasian ancestor....sometimes the genes become dominant at a later generation...

No idea about the family tree from my mom's side. I inherited these features from my mom who has natural flaming red hair and white skin. But both my maternal grandparents were as brown as you can get.

So.. the origin of these traits continue to remain a mystery. 😆The closest I ever got to having a Caucasian ancestor was that (from what my mom told me) one of her male ancestors had red hair. But she has no idea of his ethnicity.

Originally posted by: --Pro.vo.King--

I don't think it is fair to make anyone feel 'guilty' about their sexual preferences .. homosexuals or otherwise .. 😊

I used to be of that opinion. But then I realized it was wrong and it was way too clear that sexual preferences could be rooted in bigotry. I am not saying they are rooted in this case. But sexual preferences don't automatically deserve a free pass just because "they are sexual" especially if someone espouses them on public forums.

Originally posted by: AwaamKiJaan

What is masculinity? If it is about being muscular, effeminate men can be muscular.

Effeminacy has more to do with the way of talking, walking, standing, sitting, showing emotions etc. which are considered feminine by society. Again it's the society which defines all these things.

I don't think I'm making anyone feel guilty about their sexual preference. Them trying to justify their own sexual preference or types shows they are themselves feeling guilty for it for whatever reason.

Yes you are...right from the start of this thread..😳.that is the reason people are trying to justify their " sexual preference" which no one should have to justify because its "natural"....as natural for the homosexuals preferring their own gender as their sex partners...there is nothing to be ashamed of in that...just like there is nothing to be ashamed of in not having a sexual preference for effeminate men......like I said before sexual preference is different than gender discrimination..

Originally posted by: AwaamKiJaan

What is masculinity? If it is about being muscular, effeminate men can be muscular.

Effeminacy has more to do with the way of talking, walking, standing, sitting, showing emotions etc. which are considered feminine by society. Again it's the society which defines all these things.

I don't think I'm making anyone feel guilty about their sexual preference. Them trying to justify their own sexual preference or types shows they are themselves feeling guilty for it for whatever reason.

@ bold : you made a topic on "effeminate" men .. surely you have an idea about "masculinity " ? .. or "femininity" ? .. anything ? .. nope ? .. 😕

Society didn't create this thread or topic , you did .. but then again , you are a part of this society.. so there you go .. 😆

Originally posted by: FreeTheNipple

I used to be of that opinion. But then I realized it was wrong and it was way too clear that sexual preferences could be rooted in bigotry. I am not saying they are rooted in this case. But sexual preferences don't automatically deserve a free pass just because "they are sexual" especially if someone espouses them on public forums.

And that is your preference.. I can respect that and that's about it ..😆

On public ( or private) forums , if anyone is using "desirability" as a tool to bash a certain section of people then it is without a doubt bigotry .. but that is entirely different from one's sexuality which is an innate part of one's being ..