The dynamics of talent and stardom get reversed with age?

Do you agree that talent sustains but stardom fades for actresses?

Look at Vidya, Tabu, and Rani. They are in their 40's but still getting meaty roles and let's face it, Tabu was easily among the most overshadowed actresses of her generation - she was not in the same league as Kajol, Karisma, Juhi, etc. Yet she is the one still sustaining a career from among that generation.

There are always exceptions like the late Sridevi who combined superstardom and talent. Yet, the only reason she continued to be relevant after a certain point was because of her talent, and not her stardom.

Once age sets in, there's only talent left (Sridevi, Rani, Tabu). Aura and beauty fade so does stardom, but talent never fades.

It's the opposite for actors, though. Salman Khan is a megastar at 55 and continues to rule the masses. Stardom reigns over talent, even for older actors.

Discuss.

Talent makes it easier to sustain but Kajol, Karisma, Juhi & SRK are all talented so I can't buy into your use of examples. There are varied circumstances for each actor mentioned that contributed to their longevity or early retirement or just their pulling back. For example - Sridevi retired in her early 30s and came back in her late 40s - she didn't sustain a career through the then toughest years for a Bollywood actress.

Originally posted by: Talis

Talent makes it easier to sustain but Kajol, Karisma, Juhi & SRK are all talented so I can't buy into your use of examples. There are varied circumstances for each actor mentioned that contributed to their longevity or early retirement or just their pulling back. For example - Sridevi retired in her early 30s and came back in her late 40s - she didn't sustain a career through the then toughest years for a Bollywood actress.

Kajol, Karisma, and Juhi are mediocre actresses compared to Tabu. Juhi had utter disregard for craft and was one of the laziest actresses. Karisma was never talented to begin with, she was always OTT and just acted well in Fiza and Zubeida. Some of her acting is so cringy. Kajol is another actress who is overhyped, she's a decent actress but not great as she's made out to be. Of course, this is my opinion of their work - maybe you disagree.

As for SRK, he is definitely talented but he didn't transition gracefully into different kinds of roles as Aamir did, he stuck to his lover-boy image and obviously didn't get great scripts to tap into that side of his.

Anyway, for actors as I said, the dynamics are different as compared to actresses. Stardom stays for a longer time, so long as the stars in question know how to transition and have an acumen for picking up scripts that highlight their strengths.

No the only 3 actresses who are still getting meaty parts are Vidya, Rani, and Tabu - in their 40's, easily the three most talented women from that generation.

Sridevi took time out for her kids, it was a conscious decision not to work I believe. But when she returned, she was successful because she was talented, and not because of her stardom, because let's face it stardom in India is temporal and based on youth ( for women). There's a reason Sridevi succeeded with English Vinglish and Mom, whereas Madhuri failed with Aaja Nachle and Gulab Gang. I believe that difference is the level of talent one has.

Superstars often give their best performance when they are more on the young side and their superstardom is still fresh.

SRK hasn't topped his best performance since Swades.

Aamir didn't top Rangeela, despite making many quality films later on.

Hrithik's best performance is still Jodhaa Akbar.

Ajay hasn't given a better performance than The Legend Of Bhagat Singh.

Even Ranbir showed his acting peak with Barfi, and might never be able to give a better performance than that.

I agree that Tabu, Vidya and Rani are talented. But we shouldn't forget that Vidya and Rani's husbands are producers and they have connections. Vidya at least works outside her husband's productions. But Rani wouldn't have survived if she didn't have Adi backing her. I don't deny her talent. Juhi is one of those actresses who can easily slip into character -humor comes easy for her. But like most of the 90s actresses she took whatever came her way and her portfolio doesn't show any dramatic roles. She shows her versatility in Gulaab Gang as the crooked politician. But she wasn't ambitious. Karishma was never talented to begin with. Kajol is a conundrum. She has talent and connections. So I don't know why she's not getting meaty roles.

Originally posted by: capricornrcks

I agree that Tabu, Vidya and Rani are talented. But we shouldn't forget that Vidya and Rani's husbands are producers and they have connections. Vidya at least works outside her husband's productions. But Rani wouldn't have survived if she didn't have Adi backing her. I don't deny her talent. Juhi is one of those actresses who can easily slip into character -humor comes easy for her. But like most of the 90s actresses she took whatever came her way and her portfolio doesn't show any dramatic roles. She shows her versatility in Gulaab Gang as the crooked politician. But she wasn't ambitious. Karishma was never talented to begin with. Kajol is a conundrum. She has talent and connections. So I don't know why she's not getting meaty roles.

She’s lazy. Too engrossed in the mills and boons crap to be ambitious.

Jaya Bachchan is a prime example.

Originally posted by: Equine

She’s lazy. Too engrossed in the mills and boons crap to be ambitious.

Aww Mills & Boons isn't so bad as that. And I should know since I've been consuming them by the dozen ever since I was a teenager. Nothing more sugary than a sweet 90s Hindi rom-com. And I wouldn't call Kajol lazy. Maybe motherhood changed her priorities. She'd mentioned in interviews before that she had taken care of her younger sis since her mom was so busy working. Her folks were divorced. Could be that she wanted to provide her kids with at least one constant parent figure.

Originally posted by: capricornrcks

Kajol is a conundrum. She has talent and connections. So I don't know why she's not getting meaty roles.

Her unibrow 😆

All jokes aside she was in the only true hit of 2020 isn’t that something. Even if the husband cast her 😆 Which is now frowned upon 😃

Originally posted by: capricornrcks

Aww Mills & Boons isn't so bad as that. And I should know since I've been consuming them by the dozen ever since I was a teenager. Nothing more sugary than a sweet 90s Hindi rom-com. And I wouldn't call Kajol lazy. Maybe motherhood changed her priorities. She'd mentioned in interviews before that she had taken care of her younger sis since her mom was so busy working. Her folks were divorced. Could be that she wanted to provide her kids with at least one constant parent figure.

You see, when Sridevi retires and spends time with her family, it's called "she took time out for her kids", when Kajol does the same it's called "she's lazy".