"Blinders" about Blinds - Page 3

Originally posted by: LiveEatLove

Why not?? Let's compare and just put a final stamp on Sushant being a snowflake and that he just wasn't targeted at all.

Only these 4 coz they were the only successful male outsiders in a long time. Sushant's barrage of blinds began after Dhoni. Not before that. Ayush , Kartik ones that i have read are all after they saw their big success two years back. RKR blind though I cant remember reading at all.

I am not saying Sushant was not targeted or that his blind items were true. I am saying that all actors have had blinds written about them irrespective of insider or outsider.

Also, blinds generally are about the successful actors because the audience is more interested in reading about them. The reason for the blinds is to get clicks and views for these websites. So putting gossip about the actors who are currently popular is the norm. That's the reason we still read blinds about SRK, Amir, Salman, Akshay etc but there are lesser blinds about their other contemprories like Sunil Shetty, Govinda, Bobby Deol etc who are no longer actively working.

Originally posted by: sweetshruti

@Bold - Agree with the bold part. That's what I was trying to say as well. There are blinds that have some truth to them and there are blinds that are completely false. Blinds affect every one the same way whether they are insider or outsider.

As far as Sushant is concerned:

Kai Po Che was a hit...it was declared a hit, it was critically acclaimed, Sushant was nominated for best debut, the director and the film itself was nominated as well. It launched Sushant's career and pushed him into the "lead actor" league. --What more recognition are you expecting it to get? 😕

Dhoni - Even though Sushant performed well in the movie, you can't deny that 90% of the people who went to see the movie did so for "Dhoni". Dhoni was the blue eyed boy of India then having won the world cup so interest in him was at a all time high. Tomorrow if a main stream movie is made on Sachin or Virat people will rush to see it irrespective of who starred in it. Even then, Sushant was critically acclaimed, nominated for best actor in all the main awards, won critics best actor award in Screen awards and cemented his place as a leading man in Bollywood, something many others have failed to do. To say he received no appreciation for Dhoni is not fair IMO.

A Star Kids debut will always get the media attention irrespective of who is opposite them.

Chichorre was a hit (the biggest validation for an actor or movie). It was nominated at most of the award functions as well. So when you say "nobody cared" who are you referring to and how were they supposed to show that they cared?

Maybe the blinds against Sushant were all false....but is it really fare to say he got no appreciation?? Nitesh Tiwary choosing him as the lead right after Dangal was that not a sign of his talent being noticed and rewarded?? He was among the top 5 leading heroes in the current generation- is that not success and acceptance??, he was a highly paid actor with multiple hit movies - is that not a sign of audience acceptance and validation??

Or is success just being invited to KWK or being a part of KJOs gang??

I don't even live in India. Never understood the hype it has 🤣 trust me I don't care if he was there or not.. better if latter 😆

Anyway. You are right. May be I phrased it wrong. He had validation and recognition in public. Definately did and hence the massive emotional outburst on his demise. I was talking about unfair treatment and lack of recognition on bollywood's behalf which noone can deny.

Despite nomination, kai Po che didn't get him 'highly acclaimed awards'.

If dhoni's success was solely on mahi's craze (a huge fan , bdw) then vivek Oberoi's pm biopic or whatever that was should have been a blockbuster!! Star screen was the only award he had ever received in his entire career. If not all but many will agree that he deserved more. But again, the awards are anyway rigged and again we have come full circle . Chalo fine they didn't fine him worthy enough for a Filmfare , but suraj Pancholi? Seriously?

I agree Irrfan khan deserved the Filmfare best actor but if sara coulld win the award, Sushant certainly deserved a nomination.

Chicchore was a brilliant movie. I don't remember any award that was given to him on that. Chalo leave that too.

Bhumi got nominated for Sonchiraiya . Why wasn't Sushant nominated then? They could have given all of the awards to gully boy for all I cared but he did deserve a nomination.

This does not mean he wasn't successful. Success doesn't really have anything to do with rigged awards. But to not even put him in nomination despite being worthy of it is what I am talking about.

We all need validation and recognition from our workplace irrespective of countless appreciation from others. Everyone kept saying he was above all this and he didn't care about it but at the end , he was human.

Yes Nitesh Tiwari chose Sushant on his talent but the movie was marketed as Dangal director's second movie!! I have myself read it in so many articles.

How many times have you seen this happening? Was dear zindagi called a gauri shinde movie or SRK movie?

Why are there only handful of articles (if any) that praised Sushant as an actor and plathora of those that defamed him?

If a woman in an abusive relationship commits suicide do we raise the question that so many women are abused daily, do all of them kill themselves?? No. So whats the big deal

This is obviously an extreme example but the point is that the practice of blinds (whether bollywood or Hollywood) is dangerous. Bec without name one doesn't need to attach any evidence to attack a person

Was blinds the reason for his suicide? Probably no. But he was obviously going through some sort of mental issues and this in all probability did contribute to his deteriorating health

Plus we have people like kjo and rk going on record about how they feed stuff to their friends in the media. If you look at the larger picture and piece together individual revelations, you'll notice how some people wield an enormous influence on other's career and public image.

Its pretty clear that sushant was targeted esp since every blind is the exact opposite of his actual personality. The fact that other people in the industry are unfairly reported does not make what happened to him ok.

I honestly don't know if anything concrete is going to happen from all this rage but if at the bare minimum it stops this system of blinds where the person who prints trash is not held accountable, it will be a step in the right direction.

Originally posted by: sweetshruti

I am not saying Sushant was not targeted or that his blind items were true. I am saying that all actors have had blinds written about them irrespective of insider or outsider.

Also, blinds generally are about the successful actors because the audience is more interested in reading about them. The reason for the blinds is to get clicks and views for these websites. So putting gossip about the actors who are currently popular is the norm. That's the reason we still read blinds about SRK, Amir, Salman, Akshay etc but there are lesser blinds about their other contemprories like Sunil Shetty, Govinda, Bobby Deol etc who are no longer actively working.

I am yet to see these blinds about Aishwarya and Amitabh having a daughter, can't find them anywhere.

Also, how many of these blinds against insiders & nepo kids are serious crime allegations? Blinds about insiders vs blinds about outsiders are completely poles apart. A blind about Ranbir having a one night stand has no damage to his professional oppurtunites but a blind about Sushant sexually assaulting his co-star, that too durinf a me too movement would totally ruin both his personal and professional life.

Originally posted by: bips

If a woman in an abusive relationship commits suicide do we raise the question that so many women are abused daily, do all of them kill themselves?? No. So whats the big deal

This is obviously an extreme example but the point is that the practice of blinds (whether bollywood or Hollywood) is dangerous. Bec without name one doesn't need to attach any evidence to attack a person

Was blinds the reason for his suicide? Probably no. But he was obviously going through some sort of mental issues and this in all probability did contribute to his deteriorating health

Plus we have people like kjo and rk going on record about how they feed stuff to their friends in the media. If you look at the larger picture and piece together individual revelations, you'll notice how some people wield an enormous influence on other's career and public image.

Its pretty clear that sushant was targeted esp since every blind is the exact opposite of his actual personality. The fact that other people in the industry are unfairly reported does not make what happened to him ok.

I honestly don't know if anything concrete is going to happen from all this rage but if at the bare minimum it stops this system of blinds where the person who prints trash is not held accountable, it will be a step in the right direction.

That is exactly what I am trying to say too. Blinds are blinds! Irrespective of who is on the receiving end.

But all these people didn't really have anything to lose even if people believed Amitabh had a daughter with Aishwarya (gross) or ranbir has nogh stands with his friend's girlfriends or even if he was an addict. Sanjay Dutt indeed was one. What happened ? He is just as famous, rich , and now even whitewashed with his biopic.

Sushant (and people like him) came from a very different background and had worked so so hard to reach where he was .. all these blinds had the potential to literally destroy him. Take away everything that he had built with his hardwork.

How casual do you think sexual harrassment accusation is for it to not take a toll on someone's mind? With everything coming back to back on him , this could have been the nail on the coffin.

No amount of clarification would have helped had he been alive.

Did it push him on the edge? Probably yes

Probably no. But if people are believing that depression was real , they better acknowledge the probable reasons for it too.

Originally posted by: HearMeRoar

Great, now a barrage of blinds are to be tolerated threads

Blinds are blinds because the so-called journalists lack evidence to present them as news and don't want to get sued for naming names.

If they have evidence, do what responsible journalists do. Check facts and publish news, not gossip.

If you don't have evidence, don't publish.

Regardless of who it's against, the above is true.

Regarding outsider vs. Insider: outsiders lack the resources, the emotional support, and the know how in dealing with the blinds. It's therefore easier to use blinds to bully and harass and eventually, get rid of an outsider regarded as competitor than an insider.

But again, people who don't want to see will not see.

Very well said! 👏

IMO, nothing is going to change in BW & it’s way of functioning including Blinds.

For new people entering BW or already existing outsiders, they can learn a lesson from his demise ie one needs mental fortitude and emotional support at home in order to survive and succeed in BW.

Originally posted by: Sharpener

I am yet to see these blinds about Aishwarya and Amitabh having a daughter, can't find them anywhere.

Also, how many of these blinds against insiders & nepo kids are serious crime allegations? Blinds about insiders vs blinds about outsiders are completely poles apart. A blind about Ranbir having a one night stand has no damage to his professional oppurtunites but a blind about Sushant sexually assaulting his co-star, that too durinf a me too movement would totally ruin both his personal and professional life.

Ranbir's family has bragged on national TV that he has affairs with multiple women at the same time so for them it is a "badge of honour" ... so that " blind item" does not besmirch his reputation any more than what the Kapoors say in interviews anyway... it could even be planted by his own team to paint him as some sort of a ladies man ...

Originally posted by: Sharpener

I couldn't find any such blinds.

Thats too bad....because all these blinds have been discussed for pages after pages...concerned people were shamed like no tomm.....there is another one...that AbRam is the son of Aryan and his white girl friend...and that came out when Aryan was still a teenager or may be 20...can't remember correctly....but imagine a young boy giving explanations to his friends that he is not the father of his brother.....no one will find u a link....that takes a lot of work...its not like googling a pic...but everyone knows and have discussed them...if u want to believe it...its fine...otherwise its OK...

posters here loved doing threads with links from reddit/quora/facebook of "blind items" written by anonymous accounts.. that isn't the "blind articles" that is being discussed post Sushant's death...

people are against blind articles published in professional news sites written by journalists who are colluding with certain gang of Bollywood to run a smear campaign..

Amitabh having affair with Aishwarya wasn't a legit blind item (i can't find a legit link anywhere) published like fake rumours involving Sushant by industry insider "media people" ...

it was just written by a rando on the internet and haters and people who love to think Bollywood is some sort of a depraved place full of daily orgies picked it up and ran with it...

Originally posted by: blue-ice.1

Thats too bad....because all these blinds have been discussed for pages after pages...concerned people were shamed like no tomm.....there is another one...that AbRam is the son of Aryan and his white girl friend...and that came out when Aryan was still a teenager or may be 20...can't remember correctly....but imagine a young boy giving explanations to his friends that he is not the father of his brother.....no one will find u a link....that takes a lot of work...its not like googling a pic...but everyone knows and have discussed them...if u want to believe it...its fine...otherwise its OK...

I am not talking about quora or reddit fan fic. i am talking about blinds published by Masand and Pinkvilla. I don't see any such blinds. All those Aradhya and Abram theories were fan fics and quora gossips by no name people.