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Posted: 6 years ago
#11

Originally posted by: crispsy



You are underestimating Ranveer 😲


He needs big heroine big director hit music to deliver a hit... all of his movies without any big actress or director flopped... kill dill gunday befikre lootera to name some of them..I know this forum worships him 😆 I am in minority.. that's why I am not that active in this forum coz all you can see is ppl hyping him all the time...he sneezes and we have a post in forum 😆
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Tiger Shroff!!
There's a reason BOI is salivating at this kid's box office opening potential. Potential Salman-esque. Still a way to go to consolidate it though.

Every single of one his movies had no A-list directors, mostly zero A-list actresses, yet most opened very well. The kid delivered the highest solo debut at that time, a 12 crore opening with his second film and just delivered a 25 crore opening day on his own merit with his 5th f**king film.



Tiger Shroff Changes The Star Equation
Thursday 12 April 2018 11.30 IST
Box Office India Trade Network

Baaghi 2 released over a few weeks back has changed the equations as far as the star pecking order is considered. Tiger Shroff has come out of the blue with this film to stand on the tails of the big five (Khans, Akshay Kumar and Hrithik Roshan). In fact it could even be said that it will be Tiger Shroff that will be the driver of the untitled Hrithik Roshan / Tiger Shroff film to be released next October.

Tiger Shroff is at that point where a film has created an image and its up to him to either consolidate this over the next 2-3 years to become that big popular box office star or let the opportunity go and remain the normal star or even fade. If we look back over the last 30 years then these moments have arrived six times and three times they have been taken, twice missed and this one remains to be seen. The difference between Tiger Shroff and his contempories after Baaghi 2 is that he has become a man from a boy but the real battle starts now for him as its the consolidation that is harder than that one big opener which gives the chance to be a huge box office draw.



In 1990 Ghayal hit the screens and gave Sunny Deol that huge action image which he consolidated through the 90's with many super hits and if it was action and the film was poor it still opened to full houses. Ghayal released with Dil which was actually a bigger hit in the first six months of the their respective runs but the business of Ghayal went ahead within the next year as repeat runs did huge business as the image got stronger and stronger with time.

In 1995 Dilwale Dulhania Le Jayenge came and created another huge box office star. Actually it was not Dilwale Dulhania Le Jayenge that made Shahrukh Khan the big box office star but what happened after with film after film with the image created by Dilwale Dulhania Le Jayenge busting the box office. Action has dominated the box office since the release of Mera Gaon Mera Desh in June 1971 till today and in those 47 years only Shahrukh Khan managed to create a huge fan following without an action image.

Then came the turn of Hrithik Roshan in 2006 as Krrish and Dhoom 2 hit screens within six months and the industry was on a verge of a huge action / dancing star but there was no consolidation. The next five years saw Jodhaa Akbar, Kites, Guzaarish and Zindagi Na Milegi Dobara, not one film was in the Krrish and Dhoom 2 zone which had created a potential megastar and although films like Krrish 3 and Bang Bang came later, the star draw was not the same as 2006 due to the likes of Zindagi Na Milegi Dobara and Guzaarish pushing the potential superstar down.

In 2009 came Wanted which was not a huge blockbuster but created this action star image for Salman Khan who until then was more of a romantic hero. He consolidated this image with films like Dabangg and Bodyguard and there was no looking back. These film were not the biggest blockbusters of the career of Salman Khan but created an image where the huge openings materialized which was not the case with some of the earlier bigger hits. A hugely popular box office star was created who till today dominates the ticket windows eight years later.

In 2013 it was the turn of Ranbir Kapoor with Yeh Jawaani Hai Deewani putting him on a pedestal with the youth going crazy over and it was just a matter of time when another huge star with youth on his side dominates the box office. But the audience has never seen Ranbir Kapoor in that Yeh Jawaani Hai Deewani format again and its been five years and those sort of chances rarely come again. A Raj Kumar Hirani film may turn out to be a bigger hit but its a biopic and it will not be your personality on screen but someone else so the impact is nothing like a Yeh Jawaani Hai Deewani for the audience. The mega opening of a poor film like Besharam released five months after Yeh jawwani Hai Deewani was a sign of what could have been but it was not to be.

Now its 2018 and Tiger Shroff is in the position where the guys above were and its about consolidating your image over the next 2-3 years if you can. There will be a lot of trashing by the media when you play to an image especially an action one, the films will not get not get stars and you will be told you are not a actor but you will have to rise above that and go by the facts and figures which never lie. All it takes is a mistake or two and you never get that time back again.

The audience will expect different films but with image intact and it remains to be seen if Tiger Shroff goes the Sunny Deol, Shahrukh Khan and Salman Khan way or misses the killer opportunity like Hrithik Roshan or Ranbir Kapoor. There will be stars in the younger generation that see image as a hindrance but it does not work that way as an image still allows you work in other genres as long as long as its in the commercial format. Yes the arty stuff is a risk but you cant have it both ways as stardom creates expectations and these expectations can only be matched or exceeded with popular cinema.

Edited by shogun - 6 years ago
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Posted: 6 years ago
#13

Originally posted by: shogun

Tiger Shroff!!

There's a reason BOI is salivating at this kid's box office opening potential. Potential Salman-esque. Still a way to go to consolidate it though.

Every single of one his movies had no A-list directors, mostly zero A-list actresses, yet most opened very well. The kid delivered the highest solo debut at that time, a 12 crore opening with his second film and just delivered a 25 crore opening day on his own merit with his 5th f**king film.



Tiger Shroff Changes The Star Equation
Thursday 12 April 2018 11.30 IST
Box Office India Trade Network

Baaghi 2 released over a few weeks back has changed the equations as far as the star pecking order is considered. Tiger Shroff has come out of the blue with this film to stand on the tails of the big five (Khans, Akshay Kumar and Hrithik Roshan). In fact it could even be said that it will be Tiger Shroff that will be the driver of the untitled Hrithik Roshan / Tiger Shroff film to be released next October.

Tiger Shroff is at that point where a film has created an image and its up to him to either consolidate this over the next 2-3 years to become that big popular box office star or let the opportunity go and remain the normal star or even fade. If we look back over the last 30 years then these moments have arrived six times and three times they have been taken, twice missed and this one remains to be seen. The difference between Tiger Shroff and his contempories after Baaghi 2 is that he has become a man from a boy but the real battle starts now for him as its the consolidation that is harder than that one big opener which gives the chance to be a huge box office draw.



In 1990 Ghayal hit the screens and gave Sunny Deol that huge action image which he consolidated through the 90's with many super hits and if it was action and the film was poor it still opened to full houses. Ghayal released with Dil which was actually a bigger hit in the first six months of the their respective runs but the business of Ghayal went ahead within the next year as repeat runs did huge business as the image got stronger and stronger with time.

In 1995 Dilwale Dulhania Le Jayenge came and created another huge box office star. Actually it was not Dilwale Dulhania Le Jayenge that made Shahrukh Khan the big box office star but what happened after with film after film with the image created by Dilwale Dulhania Le Jayenge busting the box office. Action has dominated the box office since the release of Mera Gaon Mera Desh in June 1971 till today and in those 47 years only Shahrukh Khan managed to create a huge fan following without an action image.

Then came the turn of Hrithik Roshan in 2006 as Krrish and Dhoom 2 hit screens within six months and the industry was on a verge of a huge action / dancing star but there was no consolidation. The next five years saw Jodhaa Akbar, Kites, Guzaarish and Zindagi Na Milegi Dobara, not one film was in the Krrish and Dhoom 2 zone which had created a potential megastar and although films like Krrish 3 and Bang Bang came later, the star draw was not the same as 2006 due to the likes of Zindagi Na Milegi Dobara and Guzaarish pushing the potential superstar down.

In 2009 came Wanted which was not a huge blockbuster but created this action star image for Salman Khan who until then was more of a romantic hero. He consolidated this image with films like Dabangg and Bodyguard and there was no looking back. These film were not the biggest blockbusters of the career of Salman Khan but created an image where the huge openings materialized which was not the case with some of the earlier bigger hits. A hugely popular box office star was created who till today dominates the ticket windows eight years later.

In 2013 it was the turn of Ranbir Kapoor with Yeh Jawaani Hai Deewani putting him on a pedestal with the youth going crazy over and it was just a matter of time when another huge star with youth on his side dominates the box office. But the audience has never seen Ranbir Kapoor in that Yeh Jawaani Hai Deewani format again and its been five years and those sort of chances rarely come again. A Raj Kumar Hirani film may turn out to be a bigger hit but its a biopic and it will not be your personality on screen but someone else so the impact is nothing like a Yeh Jawaani Hai Deewani for the audience. The mega opening of a poor film like Besharam released five months after Yeh jawwani Hai Deewani was a sign of what could have been but it was not to be.

Now its 2018 and Tiger Shroff is in the position where the guys above were and its about consolidating your image over the next 2-3 years if you can. There will be a lot of trashing by the media when you play to an image especially an action one, the films will not get not get stars and you will be told you are not a actor but you will have to rise above that and go by the facts and figures which never lie. All it takes is a mistake or two and you never get that time back again.

The audience will expect different films but with image intact and it remains to be seen if Tiger Shroff goes the Sunny Deol, Shahrukh Khan and Salman Khan way or misses the killer opportunity like Hrithik Roshan or Ranbir Kapoor. There will be stars in the younger generation that see image as a hindrance but it does not work that way as an image still allows you work in other genres as long as long as its in the commercial format. Yes the arty stuff is a risk but you cant have it both ways as stardom creates expectations and these expectations can only be matched or exceeded with popular cinema.


BOI, they are still stuck in the 90s 😆 audience have grown up they don't want to see same roles/genre over and over again of their fav's. Hollywood has arrived big time and their action films are 10 times bigger and better then us, so if u can match up to them fine else don't even try, audience aren't star struck or forgiving anymore.
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Posted: 6 years ago
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I would rather say no actor, it entirely depends on an individual film.
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: Rekha_ji

It all depends on an individual film. The whole package. Tiger is winning the poll but who went to watch Munna Michael and Flying Jatt?????

Varun was said to be some unstoppable force at the box office but October was not the success it ought to have been.
Ranbir had huge flops when he made awful films like Besharam and Bombay Velvet.
Ranveer is no different.

It's always a case-by-case situation. The buzz of the film is of course generated by it's stars but it's also the music and initial feedback and the trailer/pre release promo material. Let's not be too over-analytical.


That just means they are all on the same level and as good as the content of the movie?! ... If movies determine BO pull ... why does the blame fall on "actors" when movies as in the content is bad ... bad movie is bound to fail ... but everyone starts throwing mud at the actors how they aren't "star enough" to rescue the project ... sounds like a catch 22 here! ... 😆
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Posted: 6 years ago
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It's early days yet. That's why none of them are in superstar category.
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Posted: 6 years ago
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-Ranveer had his flops at start, and probs took ANy movie given to him..unlike nepo kids he had to take what was given..not have the choice Since 2013, bar Befikre, his movies have been great successes. That's a 6 year streak that's been mostly super.

-Varun is great at comedy type roles (and some intense ones like Badlapur) and such movies have seen his audience increase. He's David Dhawan's son so he knows how the ecomnomics of a movie should work, so he's tried to build up a good list.Worked for first 4-5 movies..but rest are kinda average made to look as success.
-Tiger is like HR minus the acting skills - he looks somewhat good/pretty ( maybe a tad too 'feminine face' for my taste) and girls are bound to fall for looks even if acting is zero.
Also men like watching action movies..and Tiger's trying to be THE action star.

SO whether he's good or bad, his action flicks that are somewhat interesting in fight scenes get people watching.
So it's not him, but his looks and action movie..otherwise why did Flying Jatt and Munna M flop?
Also, Vidyut Jamwal, if given Baaghi would have had same success..he is like Tiger..loads of muscles and gymnastics..less acting ..

- Ranbir also has many flops and he had the first choice in all good projects. HE's been up and down and mediocre after a few years of good roles..Sanju helped him out of that slump.but he got so many chances. Again, he';s good at manchild roles... we shall see if he ever gets out of that type of roles ..cause each time he tries he kinda flops.
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Opening decides aukaat yanike stardom
Ranbir's flop Besharam opened at 20 cr
Ranbir's Hit Sanju opened at 34.5 cr.

Nuff said.
Edited by Ennuyi - 6 years ago
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: Rekha_ji

It all depends on an individual film. The whole package. Tiger is winning the poll but who went to watch Munna Michael and Flying Jatt?????

Varun was said to be some unstoppable force at the box office but October was not the success it ought to have been.
Ranbir had huge flops when he made awful films like Besharam and Bombay Velvet.
Ranveer is no different.

It's always a case-by-case situation. The buzz of the film is of course generated by it's stars but it's also the music and initial feedback and the trailer/pre release promo material. Let's not be too over-analytical.


Rekha ji...you are trying to make too much sense here...against the spirit of IF 😆
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Posted: 6 years ago
#20
Ranveer.
19.5cr for a niche film.
Noone can do that apart from Ranveer.

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