Why Ranveer calls himself as an outsider?

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JackSparrowcraz

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Posted: 7 years ago

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Originally posted by: TheRager

Shahid's situation was same as Vicky Kaushal's today and Ajay's early in his career. Their parents were working in BW, might have had connections which helped them get noticed with someone who might have wanted to finance their first film.
We cant compare any of them to HR. Rakesh Roshan was a pretty successful director and actor. And his mother's family was very wealthy and influential in BW. His grandfather ie Nanaji used to be a go-to man for BW for their disputes and issues. Assuming that Rakesh Roshan was in debt also its easy for a well connected director to raise finance. Look at Abhishek Kapoor raising finance for Kedarnath today despite a dud like Fitoor. Or Mohit Suri doing Half Girlfriend with a decent budget after a dud.
I am sorry if you were unaware of HR or his debut or RR. But the reality is people knew RR and his son and the fact that he was debuting. Yes Abhishek was much more hyped. Plus there was the controversy involving Kareena when RR had to fire her for bad behavior.
Agree on Ranveer...he was well connected and cant be compared to SRK or even Akshay when they started out.

Akshay was first offered Phool aur Kaante.He was abruptly replaced before the shooting commenced.No prizes for guessing who he was replaced with.

Edit: Akshay Kumar was also the first choice for 'Phool Aur Kante' which launched Ajay Devgn as the new action star who made his entry on two bikes. "Yes, I was in Phool Aur Kaante. I sat in on the (music) sessions with Nadeem-Shravan at Sunny Super Sound (recording studio). Those days, there used to be 30-40 violin guys in every song, a separate orchestra. Ab toh, we finish off everything in an instant. So at night, I was readying my ice box. You had to do it on your own in those days. So I was getting ready for the first day's shoot. And then I get a call, ki bhaiya aap mat aana. Koi aur aa raha hai (You don't need to come for the shoot, someone else is)" said the 50-year-old actor.

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Posted: 7 years ago

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@CrystalFatima No way. SRK - Akshay are on a completely different level. There can never be a comparison in any sense, as not only were they not from Bollywood families, they were also not from well off backgrounds belonging to Mumbai.

I was forced to watch BBB by my friend when I was 14 or 15, so I don't remember much as I wasn't paying much attention. Need to re-watch it 😆

He struggled a bit in the first half of Lootera, and that's exactly why I mentioned the second half and the last conversation. He was really good, according to me.

Vikram was too good. But my favorite in the film was the actor who played the Zamindar. He did all the talking via his expressions and eyes in the final sequence of the first half, when he finds out about Varun. Amazingly amazing actor!

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Hello_kitta

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Posted: 7 years ago

#33

That's rel life bollywood actors for janta. SRK says he is from garib ghar se. Akki says he was chef cum waiter. starkids say they had to struggle and selected after auditions. Neta aur Abhineta sab ublic ko chuna lagate hai .

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Posted: 7 years ago

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Tbh, my relatives are pretty useless this way. I had a not so distant Mama who was an old client of the company I intern-ed at and the boss was not allowing me sth that I was legally entitled to so as a last resort, I asked him to talk to him and the guy blatantly refused. Aur Yaha toh Ranveer's uncle/Aunty whosoever it is have gone an extra mile to make his career? Waaah!

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Posted: 7 years ago

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Originally posted by: TheRager

Shahid's situation was same as Vicky Kaushal's today and Ajay's early in his career. Their parents were working in BW, might have had connections which helped them get noticed with someone who might have wanted to finance their first film.
We cant compare any of them to HR. Rakesh Roshan was a pretty successful director and actor. And his mother's family was very wealthy and influential in BW. His grandfather ie Nanaji used to be a go-to man for BW for their disputes and issues. Assuming that Rakesh Roshan was in debt also its easy for a well connected director to raise finance. Look at Abhishek Kapoor raising finance for Kedarnath today despite a dud like Fitoor. Or Mohit Suri doing Half Girlfriend with a decent budget after a dud.
I am sorry if you were unaware of HR or his debut or RR. But the reality is people knew RR and his son and the fact that he was debuting. Yes Abhishek was much more hyped. Plus there was the controversy involving Kareena when RR had to fire her for bad behavior.
Agree on Ranveer...he was well connected and cant be compared to SRK or even Akshay when they started out. But by the logic Ranveer uses he is an outsider.

U are so wrong. Hrithik's grandpa only recollectable successful film was in 1970s. Who even knows him?

When Deol - Khanna debuted, there used to be special events on Sony TV about Rajesh Khanna n Dharmendra. Bachchan - Kapoor was touted as Debut of the year.

In comparison, Rakesh Roshan was a Flop struggling actor. He was a reasonably successful director but not a famous/popular one. He mortgaged his house to make KNPH.

And it is a well documented fact that public didnt even know or care that he had a son like Hrithik Roshan. He was just any other newcomer making his debut in that year. That too between 2 Big films,Aamir's Mela n SRK first home production: Phir Bhi Dil Hai Hindustani. His promotional interviews wud be in the small corner of the papers. Yes, the songs n his dance moves slowly caught people's attention n made people curious. He entered the theatre as a nobody with Public and came out a Superstar.

Even Amitabh Bachchan treated him badly in K3G set as he felt insulted that a Struggling supporting actor's son became a Bigger success than his son. Ram Gopal Verma also said the same.

Rakesh Roshan got name,fame n recognition among general public mainly after KNPH. His very first filmfare award of his entire career was also for KNPH.

Edited by CrystalFatima - 7 years ago

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TheRager

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Posted: 7 years ago

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Originally posted by: CrystalFatima

U are so wrong. Hrithik's grandpa only recollectable successful film was in 1970s. Who even knows him?

When Deol - Khanna debuted, there used to be special events on Sony TV about Rajesh Khanna n Dharmendra. Bachchan - Kapoor was touted as Debut of the year.

In comparison, Rakesh Roshan was a Flop struggling actor. He was a reasonably successful director but not a famous/popular one. He mortgaged his house to make KNPH.

And it is a well documented fact that public didnt even know or care that he had a son like Hrithik Roshan. He was just any other newcomer making his debut in that year. That too between 2 Big films, Mela, SRK first home production: Phir Bhi Dil Hai Hindustani. His promotional interviews wud be in the small corner of the papers. Yes, the songs n his dance moves slowly caught people's attention n made people curious. He entered the theatre as a nobody with Public and came out a Superstar.

Even Amitabh Bachchan treated him badly in K3G set as he felt insulted that a Struggling supporting actor's son became a Bigger success than his son. Ram Gopal Verma also said the same.

Rakesh Roshan got name,fame n recognition only among general public mainly after KNPH. His very first filmfare award of his entire career was also for KNPH.

If HR is a struggling in any way then by the same logic even Ranbir is had a struggle. Ranbir's father was mostly known as a supporting actor to Big B. He never had too much money. His mother had retired from films after getting married. His grandfather Raj Kapoor and great grand father PrithviRaj Kapoor were successful in the 1970s and before that. Who even knew them when Ranbir debuted? Rishi and his brothers were just managing by letting out the studio their father had built but they didnt have enough money to make any films let alone help out Ranbir in any way. Lets call everyone a struggler...why only Hrithik?

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Posted: 7 years ago

#37

Originally posted by: TheRager

If HR is a struggling in any way then by the same logic even Ranbir is had a struggle. Ranbir's father was mostly known as a supporting actor to Big B. He never had too much money. His mother had retired from films after getting married. His grandfather Raj Kapoor and great grand father PrithviRaj Kapoor were successful in the 1970s and before that. Who even knew them when Ranbir debuted? Rishi and his brothers were just managing by letting out the studio their father had built but they didnt have enough money to make any films let alone help out Ranbir in any way. Lets call everyone a struggler...why only Hrithik?

Oh Puhllees u are seriously comparing KAPOORS with others? They are the First Family of Bollywood, Super successful n Popular among entire India n abroad. Every generation of theirs had Stars. From Prithviraj Kapoor, Raj Kapoor, Shashi,Shammi, Randhir all the way to Karisma. It is stupid to even compare them with any other "star" kids, let alone comparing them with Shahid/Hrithik whose parents were not stars. Being from film family is different from being a Star kid. People seem to mix them up.

l think we both are just going off topic. We shud be talking about Ranveer who is the one who is clubbing himself with Rank outsiders like SRK/Akshay. Dont think others are doing it.

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pallavi25

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Posted: 7 years ago

#38

Hes certainly not a true blue outsider like SRK and Akshay, both of them came from Delhi, they had no family or BW connections in Mumbai, SRK started with TV, Akki started with modelling, got spotted because of looks or talent and got their first offer.

Ranveer can certainly be called an insider because his uncle is Anil Kapoor, he grew up in Mumbai in filmy circles, comes from an affluent family, he readily had the filmy contacts to help him get started

Real outsiders have to struggle a LOT, Ranveer did not have to do that

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Posted: 7 years ago

#39

Best thing about Nepotism debate is we will be spared from seeing Kids of Kangana n SSR in Bollywood. They will choose Non Bollywood careers as their parents will not use their contacts to help them enter Bollywood.