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Originally posted by: rainbow2017

A lot of history that dates back hundreds of years was not written down or documented and instead was passed down verbally through poems, bards and folk songs. This is especially true of the Rajputana, because Rajasthan was invaded continuously for centuries from outsiders and it was only after Shah Jahan came to rule India, that he made permanent peace with the Rajputs. Now every time, a fort was invaded in Rajasthan (and they almost, always lost every battle), whatever history they had documented invariably got destroyed. Hence, the history of Rajasthan is a mix of fiction and fact.

Take for example the fact that Padmavati was a princess from the Singhal Kingdom, the present day Sri Lanka. Now in those days, Hindu's would never cross water, it was considered very inauspicious. In fact, this mindset was prevalent well into the 20th century too. Sri Lanka is an Island and to reach the princess, Ratan Singh would have had to cross the Sea. No way, would an orthodox Hindu King every do that. Also, the logistical impossibility of travelling all the way from Rajasthan to Sri Lanka seems improbable in the 13th century. The Afghans, Mongols and the Turks were nomadic in nature and hence they could travel for months, but not the Rajputs, who never stepped out of Rajasthan.

It was only when Jayasi published his Padmaavat, that the mention of Queen Padmavati comes to light. A poet named Narayanchandra Suri had written a very similar story two hundred years before Jayasi which became the base for Padmaavat. Jayasi's patron was a Rajput King and hence he made all his characters Rajputs, probably in order to please him. Hence, if you look at it from Jayasi's point of view, Padmavati was a completely fictional character. He as much as declares in the poem that he has imagined all the characters for his poem.

Amir Kusro was a legendary historian who accompanied Khiji when he set out to attack Chittor and has documented the siege of Chittor and the capture of the Rana. He doesn't mention Padmavati's name anywhere and or do any other historians during that period. Kusro doesn't even name Ratan Singh as the ruler of Chittor, and just refers to him as Rai in his chronicles. There is no mention of Jauhar also anywhere, though Kusro does write about Khilji ordering his soldiers to massacre around 30,000 Hindu men when they conquered Chittor.

There are four type of ideal women described in Hindu scriptures and Padmini is supposed to be the best among them, and this is most probably why Jayasi names the heroine of his poem as Padmini or Padmavati. Uptill Jayasi's Padmaavat, there is no mention of the Queen.

So, I suppose what happened was that people started mixing up fact and fiction and as the story kept passing down generation after generation, the legend of Padmavati was born. Khiji and Ratan Singh are historical figures where as Padmini is not. But it all got mixed up, thanks to Jayasi.

Originally posted by: Parvati..

Watcha it Finally!

The movie is all about khilji but they have no guts to show real barbaric, inhuman side of that beast and what the population under his brutal rule and the land he conquered suffered...bhansali has unjustifiably mellowed down his character...the Islamic barbarism that was carried on for centuries is reduced to a stereotype lover boy act🥱...in return he compensated by showing rajput glory and valor and I am expected us to get swayed by it.duh

All these years j was in favor of bhansali's penchant for Bri ring historical characters alive on big screen...No more.

Despite that I am so so happy that the movie is running extra ordinary at BO...and I am also thankful to Karni sena which has managed to scare the shit outta bollywoodiya...so that the next time before laying their filthy handr on our history or religion they will do proper research/thinking at least😆

Originally posted by: .BlackSwan.

Hadn't liked binte dil before but after watching the movie, the song is on loop now JimVeer❤️DeepVeer? Who? Lol

As a DeepVeer fan I really wanted to see them on the screen for atleast for a fraction of second on the screen😭But these two are sooo good. Might watch it again lol

That jauhar scene gave me chills man...