Padmaavat BO & Review Thread - ALL DISCUSSIONS HERE ONLY - Page 113

Originally posted by: lseactuary

No way. Big B would have ruined the movie. I'm glad they got a *WOMAN* to narrate. It is the story of Padmavati. Not Bhuvan. I was relieved not to hear Big B step into even this film and to just have a normal person narrate for once!

What I meant was, the ending speech, where you hear only his audio ( Big B never comes on video or visible on screen ) before the audience leave the theater for 5-10 minutes ( and I bet, they will sit down again, as now the expert commentary is by non eother than,... ' iis sadi ka maha-nayak '
and Johar and Kesariya scenes stills and clips to be repeated on screen,... by once scene overlapping the other in slow motion,...,..

Just like in the movie Rhaanzhnaa,.. some still clips of previous love- events of Dhanus and Sonam and Banaras scenes were repeated at certain sequences and songs,...,..

IMO that woman's narration and also Dipika's speech was not so effective or any powerfully written,... what it should have been,... any normal,... like you me kinda person even with a little effort,.. would have even written more powerfully,... and Jawed, Raza murad, Salim khan, aur B R Chopra kinda even go, par climax n' excellence in words,. ,...

Big B , the " sadi ka maha-nayak " must must was needed,.. very badly and dearly,... like it or not,... otherwise JIMHO the movie ending, especially for this historian topic,.. goes simply a VOID, impossible to fill,.. !!

Dunn'o what, but what I experienced, the movie was missing something very badly and very dearly,.. !!

Perhaps it was having a bad beginning too,...

We have seen the movie Titanic',... an explanatory commentary is given in the beginning ,...about how a ship first breaks down by its own weight,...and then the first part and second behind-one part, totally vertically like a rocket, dumps straight into the ocean,...

We have seen the movie Mr. Natwarlal,... where a father tells his li'l kid a story,... that " once upon a time, there was ,... and that's how the movie starts,... and that scene is joined at the end again,... With more tutorial lessons and teaching to the grand-son,.. in fact to the real audience,... !

Did the movie needed a beginning scene, ... say, somewhat like,... Big B as a grand Daddu, teaching a lil grand son,.. doing w/ him his home-work in History,... and a history question is asked,.. "Daddu,.. what is Johar and why women burns themselves to a burning fire,.. ? What is the meaning of Kesariya and shaaka,.. ? " and Big B starts the story and hence w/ that the movie starts,... and that scene is joined again at the end , with more summation and tutorial speeches,... !

That would also help the all foreign audience all round the world to glue with the movie and Indo-customs and such,...

Originally posted by: -Cruiser-

The time period depicted in this magnificently shot film indicates, Vasco De Gama hadn't been born yet and it further meant, evil British hadn't arrived in India and had not brought with them the little metallic steel tweezers (hair pluckers), that women of today employ to pluck out the extra unwanted hair on their eyebrows.

BHANSALI INTERPRETATION BASED ON ABOVE FACT:

In 12th and 13th Century, fames and folklores about beauty of Royal Princesses and Queens spread around by how dense and thick their eye brows were. Thicker and denser the eyebrows of a Princess (Any woman for that matter), more beautiful she was. 😳

Metalic tongs and pliers that blacksmiths of Rajasthan used to make, were simply not meant for plucking out eye brow hair one by one and though thanks to wax of honeycombs, waxing of unwanted hair from forearms and legs was a mastered practice amongst harems of various forts and palaces across subcontinent, eye brows remained untamed, dense and thick as moss all across. 😛

Ignoring all screams and protests of Historians, Bhansali shows Alauddin Khilji (Ranveer Singh) as a maniacal bull type of character who gorges on meat-feasts, has stoned devilish looks, indulges in debauchery on his wedding night and obsessed about adding more and more dense eye brow Princesses and Eunuchs to his harem of Queens and concubines. He has a very dense eye brow Queen wife Mehrunnisa (Aditi Rao Hydari) and a Eunuch lover Malik Kafur (Jim Sarbh). Bhansali could not find more dense eye brow girls to play roles of Khilji's other real wives in life, Malika-E-Jahaan, Jhatyapali etc, so lets not divert to that side.👍🏼

So on one hand we have a stoned, maniacal, high on hormonal urges massive Bull like Alauddin, on the other side we have a pint sized khargosh look Rana Ratan Singh (Shahid Kapoor). Padmavati is the most beautiful girl of her times as she not only has dense eye brows but as if by a miracle, her two eyebrows are joined together actually and in Bhansali's adaptation, that makes her the dream woman of her times. Pint Sized Rana is approximately the same height as a fully grown male Deer, so very correctly, Bhansali shows arrow shot by single eyebrow Padmavati meant for Deer's heart piercing Rana's upper chest area on left side. Arrow pierces Ratan Singh's left upper side and bewitching beauty of Padmavati's joined eyebrows his heart, which is few cms below the arrow wound.

Pint sized Ratan Singh and Single eye brow Padmavati marry and return to a Palace of grandeur and opulence at Chittor.❤️

After few Bhansali dances and dialogues Ratan wants to kiss this incredible single eye brow but evil priest of Ratan one Raghav fellow too had gotten smitten by this single eye brow and he indulges in voyeurism, gets caught. Ratan wants him imprisoned but Padmavati wants disgraced Raghav to be exiled so that he tells the world how beautiful single eyebrow of Padmavati is.

Raghav marches to Delhi and brainwashes a drugs-stoned Alauddin Khilji. Khilji stops munching on kilograms of lamb meat, stops dancing to entertain his soldiers, hell even stops his bath tubs session with his Eunuch paramour Malik Kafur (Dense eye browed Jim Sarbh silly).

Mehrunnisa (Aditi Rao Hydari), whose dense eye brows any way were not getting any attention of Khilji is devastated by Khilji's new obsession to have single eye brow bewitching beauty Padmavati in his harem.

Mehrunnisa's simple logic is Khilji is totally into drugs and debauchery but why the hell he should have this testosterone urge of "One more for me'? She tries impressing Khilji with beauty of her forest thick eye brows, but Khilji says your eyebrows are not joined together and come what may, I want Padmavati.😈

Alauddin Khilji invites Khargosh Ratan and Single Eye Brow beauty Padmavati to enjoy his hospitality, but they refuse.

Malik Kafur tries convincing Khilji his eye brows are dense and most beautiful and Khilji should not try to bring a Souten of Kafur but Khilji slaps him and lays seize of Chittorgarh Fort.

Pint sized Ratan Singh goes into a huddle with his advisors. Edited out versions reveal his Ministers told him we have ration meant to last only few months and if seize of fort goes on, we will die of hunger inside the fort. 😭

Bhansali's Ratan Singh says austerity and strict rationing would send wrong signals so we must have grandest of Sanjay Leela Bhansali celebrations on Holi-Diwali-Lohri-Onam-Baisakhi-Christmas even Guru Nanak Jayanti! ---His Minister tells him Guru Nanak will be born after 200 years, so they give up on Guru Nanak Jayanti celebrations, but celebrate all other festivals in grandeur and style! So Team Khargosh is shown having a ball while Team Beast is visibly starving.🥳

In exasperation, Khilji gives up after 8-9 months and volunteers to come alone to enjoy Ratan Singh's hospitality. Obviously his intention is to be just able to see this beautiful single eye brow woman, but then saying that openly would be red rag to Karni Sena. So Bhansali disguises it nicely and Khilji eats to his heart's content while looking around for beauty with joined eye brows.☺️

Its time for goodbye and Khilji's raging hormones can take it no more.

He requests to be shown joined eye brows, Pint Sized Ratan throws a fit and then Bhansali logic takes over.

Khilji who gave up on the idea of continuing seize of Chittorgarh Fort and in a way lost the battle, gets a sudden unexpected bonanza and Ratan Singh shows him Padmavati (Or Padmavat?), but she vanishes even before Alauddin's blink gives him a chance to focus on her eye brow region.😕

"Show me the eye brows, ...show me the eyebrows... Khilji pleads and screams.😲

"No way you will get to see the eye brows... 😡 Pint Sized Ratan Singh dismisses the Bull Khilji pleadings and confrontation resumes.⭐️

Yet again, Bhansali logic takes over again. 👏

8 Months of wasted time in seize of fort, it hadn't occurred to dumb Khilji that he also had fire canon balls that could be catapulted to smash open fort walls and end the seize within minutes. Finally wiser, he returns with the arsenal and starts bombarding the fort left, right and center.

I started yawning at this point and do not recall what all happened thereafter.

Anyway why not give few spoilers for an out and out spoiled movie? 😕

Of what I remember, Khargosh comes to dine with Beast, Beast does a hahahaha and arrests Khargosh, one eye browed beauty Padmoo gets enraged and taking help of Mehru, the Dense eye browed wife of beast Khilji, rescues her Cheeku Khargosh.

Bhansali's Khilji has nothing better to do in life so like an obsessed moron, he once again leaves his Delhi throne and charges for Chittor. Shame on present day Delhites who feel lazy to visit their friends and relatives in NOIDA or Indirapuram, that too in the comforts of their Air Conditioned cars.

Finally, the Khargosh comes out and its pint sized Khargosh vs tank like Bull fight. Bhansali logic takes over again and Lo and behold...Bull is on the verge of getting vanquished. Predictable behaviour from treachorus side yet again and valiant Khargosh gets martyred. 😭

Khilji starts screaming in delight,WOW------Yayyy--------Now I will get to see one eyebrow beauty, I will get to see Padmavati... But Padmavati says go to hell and immolates herself and in the process, her beautiful single line eye brow as well.😭

Khilji returns to his dense eye brow Mehrunnisa and to Malik Kafur, his Eunuch lover who incidentally has the best eye brows in film! 😛

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A couple fight got audio-recorded from a Bungalow at Bandra.

KAJOL: Sanjay Leela Bhansali is your friend na? You did one film with him naa? That Hum Dil De Chuke Sanam? 😲

AJAY: Haan. Ki maine wo film. Toh? 😕

KAJOL: Gardan tedhi mat karo. -------------Film shoot nahin hai ye. -----------Ki maine matlab? -------------You didn't know Bhansali needed a one eye brow girl for Padmavati?-------TUMNE MERA NAAM KYUN SUGGEST NAHIN KIYA? 😡

AJAY: Arey yaar---Main khud ro raha hoon. Bhansali ne mujhe Khilji ke role ke liye poochha tak nahin! Aur tu hai ki? Padmavati...hunhhh 😕

KAJOL: Cheater! Cheater! Cheater! Cheater! Cheater! Cheater! Cheater! Cheater! Ajay is a Cheater! Bhansali is a Cheater, Cheater, Cheater. Cheater! Cheater! Cheater! Cheater! Oh God! 😡

PS:

1. Wondering! Had Bhansali named this film as EYEBROWSVATI or EK BHAUNHVATI, not one protest would have been there, not one cut demanded. Sad! :(

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While watching Padmaavat movie, I immediately realized what makes Mukesh Ambani's Reliance Industries Limited a global Marketing genius?

It should be a case study how his company Viacom18 successfully marketed the movie using a fabricated threat narrative in the social sphere that will make an average histo-fiction movie sell like hotcakes in the box office. This is because the movie's screenplay is full of same slogans and viewpoints which the terrorist organization Rajput KARNI SENA Rajasthan talks in public domain. So for a normal man, there isn't anything offensive to them that should make these terrorists even attack school children. What they say on road, you have Shahid Kapoor saying 57887 times in the movie, almost in same fashion with drawn swords etc.

And the irony is that the movie exactly projects why Rajput Valour is only limited in these talks and tales when they miserably fail in battlefields due to lack of intelligence and even common sense.

In a country with absolutely historical illiteracy, its pretty easy to put fictionalized tales as History and project such as a metaphor for modern narratives. The movie exactly does that role, helping Right Wing (Hinduvata) to establish their narrative of sophisticated, morally right, elegant and valorous Hindus vs uncivilized, savage, immoral, stinking backstabbing Muslims. But the irony is that, in this movie, the only person who stands out is none other than so-called antagonist- Ala-ud-din Khilji played by Ranveer Singh. Infact this movie belongs to Ranveer in all ways, as all other lead characters including the title character were more of support characters.

When the makers/script made Ranveer overdo to make Alauddin Khiliji, eccentric, over the top barbaric villain, he simply made that character imprint so high that all others got overshadowed. I felt pity for the so-called Protagonist, Maharawal Ratan Singh played by Shahid for able to do nothing other than to imitate Salman Khan by exposing his 6 pack torso and simply utter words of Valour thats missing to the core in action.

Deepika Padukone shines well in as a Tanshiq Jewellers Advertisement model as beyond exposing the jewellery and fine silks, there is nothing for her to become the character. There is not a single moment to act, as its just showcasing ornaments and silks. Its bit hard to digest, Aditi Rao Hydari who has a cameo role has more scenes to act than Deepika casted as title character

Its hard to call this movie as COSTUME DRAMA, as its drama that this movie misses a lot. Perhaps a watch at TV news about Karni Sena's antics might be more entertaining than a bland all-the-talks sans action, suicide glorification movie.

However, Sanjay Leela Bhansali has achieved what he is always famous for. Breathtaking visuals, excellent over the top sets and cinematography as worth as a Ravi Varma Painting.

My rating: 2.85/5

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What do you say guys,...?

If Big B was given this Negative role of Khilji in somewhat this kinda getup,... ( Once he was keen and dieting for doing the role of Gabbar singh in RamGopla vaerma ki aag ( Remake - Sholey ))
and, Ratan singh role was given either Salman or Ranveer singh,... taking the
pint-size Vanilla Flavor, too noble Khargosh out,... would it had been a proper choice,... also Aish / Piggy to get in,... for Aaditi Hyderi's role, or even Ash as Padmavati and Dipika as Aditi's role,... ?


What say ?

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New technology can make Big B young,... just like SRK in fan,...!!

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