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Ahhh the review of Raja Sen , full of spoilers .
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Good thing is that 95% called Ranveer's preformance a very powerful one
Visual delights and well directed is good enough to come for the film, it's core reason of SLB auidence. Most of his films don't have a strong screenplay
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This Raja Sen guy is weird 4 stars for adhm...1.5 for padmaavat. Karan Johar must be his master. 😉
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Originally posted by: Johnny.Balraj

Good thing is that 95% called Ranveer's preformance a very powerful one

Visual delights and well directed is good enough to come for the film, it's core reason of SLB auidence. Most of his films don't have a strong screenplay

Ranveer received flaks from some quarters

Ranveer is too loud yet again.Overacting.Caricature.



Raja Sen - A loud and overblown performance


The Hindu - Singh, on the other hand, may be called Khilji here but the character and its interpretation is along the same lines as the unbridled sexual assertion, aggression and machismo of his character in Goliyon... The severely muscled and overly gymmed-up body stays as does the 'Tattad tattad' kind of dance. The likeable actor is dangerously close to falling into the "eccentric, flamboyant" trap. Hope someone rescues him from it soon.


Deccan Chronnicle - Ranveer Singh as the menacing Khilji is effective in parts, but overall, his performance is too loud.
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Padmaavat movie review: Bhansali couches regressive, opportunistic messaging in exhausting visual splendour

Anna MM Vetticad

Jan,24 2018 09:38 42 IST


1/5


In a scene towards the latter part of writer-director Sanjay Leela Bhansali's new film, Rani Padmavati has a conversation with the mother of Badal, a loyal soldier in her royal husband's army who gave up his life to save his king. The queen informs the madre that her son is dead. The aforesaid madre refuses to mourn her child's passing, replying instead that a Rajput who loses his life on the battlefield is not to be deemed dead.

By then, much speechifying about Rajput valour and usool (principles) has already flowed under the bridge on screen. But wait...there is more. "Today I understand why Rajputs are said to be brave, says Ms Padmavati. "It is because they are born of brave mothers like you.

Oh Mummy! I almost choked on exasperated laughter in that moment as I sat watching in IMAX 3D in a darkened hall in Delhi, because like so much else in the film, the goings-on in this passage too contradict what its self-worshipping Rajput characters are saying. Far from being an example of that much-touted Rajput bravery, Badal's end was the result of a foolish and egoistic Rajput king's foolhardy moves going against the common-sense advice of his far more intelligent wife Padmavati the king's stupidity leads to his imprisonment by an enemy ruler, at which point Padmavati displays further intelligence and political acumen in entering the lion's den and snatching her husband from the jaws of death with the help of those like Badal.

If anyone's courage should have been celebrated at that point, it should have been the courage of Padmavati who, genetically speaking, was not a Rajput herself but a child of the Singhal kingdom that lies in modern-day Sri Lanka.

Lesson No. 1 from Bhansali's guide to populist pandering: do not let facts stand in the way of dialogues designed to massage the collective ego of the men in a community you wish to please.

Padmaavat originally named Padmavati till the Central Board of Film Certification forced a title changefollowing extremist reactions from that very community is steeped in such unwitting contradictions. The film tells the story of Rani Padmavati, second wife of Maharawal Ratan Singh, king of Chittor situated in today's Rajasthan. H.R.H. Ratan encounters Padmavati in an accident when he visits Singhal to procure its famed pearls for his first wife. They fall in love and Padmavati returns with him to Chittor as his bride. Through a series of events, Alauddin Khilji, sultan of Delhi, hears of the woman's unparalleled exquisiteness and since he wants to possess every "nayaab cheez (unique thing) in the world attacks Chittor to get her for himself. After another chain of events, Padmavati kills herself along with all the female adults and children of Chittor in the practice of jauhar, an old north Indian custom where women would commit suicide by jumping into fire instead of risking being raped by a rival army when faced with certain defeat.

Bhansali's Padmaavat is based on the 16th century fictionalised poem Padmavat by Malik Muhammad Jayasi. Most modern historians concur that Rani Padmavati a.k.a. Padmini is a figment of Jayasi's imagination although Alauddin Khilji and Ratan Singh a.k.a. Ratan Sen a.k.a. Ratnasimha are historical 13th-14th century figures and the siege of Chittor did indeed happen, Alauddin's purpose being to expand his kingdom and not to forcibly take a mythical queen.

In the year leading up to the release this week, fundamentalist Rajput organisations have committed acts of violence, threatened worse, demanded a ban and in general created a hubbub based on their inexplicable assumptions that this film insults their people. Quite the opposite. Padmaavat is an irritating ode to Rajput bravery which, if you read history books, is as much a myth as Padmavati a.k.a. Padmini herself.

From the very first scene, Bhansali's goal is clear: to pedestalise Rajputs and demonise the Khiljis, to pander to the larger Hindu Right via Rajputs by slandering a Muslim king.

And so, while H.R.H. Ratan Singh (played by Shahid Kapoor) looks pristine, as if his pyaara sa, gora sachehra has been newly cleansed by an Emami or Vaseline face wash, Alauddin (as played by Ranveer Singh) is a perennially dirty-faced devil, his chehra forever smeared with what appears to be blood and mud even when he is not in battle. Alauddin's hair is wild, his walk almost bear-like, his eyes at all times either narrowed to slits or widened to convey his menacing intent, while H.R.H. Ratan looks angelic. If Alauddin wants a woman for himself, he is portrayed as lustful, whereas Ratan's betrayal of his first queen for Padmavati is sweet romance. Alauddin has sex with another woman minutes before his wedding, rapes his first wife Mehrunissa (Aditi Rao Hydari) and beds a prostitute even while consumed with desire for Padmavati, but H.R.H. Ratan makes sweet sweet lurve to Padmavati. Alauddin and his uncle Jalaluddin (Raza Murad) are shown tearing into massive chunks of meat like savages, while H.R.H. Ratan feeds himself delicate morsels of food. Bad Alauddin always wears black and other dark shades, whereas the good Ratan dons whites, beiges and cheery colours. Wicked Alauddin stomps his feet in laughably animalistic dance moves to the song 'Khalibali' whereas Ratan, dahling Ratan, carries himself with dignity. And get this, in what seems to be Bhansali's ultimate signifier of debauchery, the nasty Muslim king's male lover is trivialised oh no! bisexuality! how terrible, no? whereas the good Hindu man's eye wanders with poise and only in the direction of women. Heterosexual promiscuity and infidelity are allowed, no?

There is no pretence at objectivity or nuance in the contrasting portrayals of the two monarchs. This is a literal echo of the average Hindu right-winger's view of Muslims as horny, carnivorous beasts. Padmaavatis a perfect example of a Hindi film couching its extreme prejudices in grandiloquence and tacky clichs, with those clichs embedded in resplendent frames.

Meanwhile, the gorgeous Ms Padmavati (Deepika Padukone) wears gorgeous lehengas while her gorgeous hair flows in just the right gorgeous wave and her perfect gorgeous makeup remains unsoiled even when she hunts in a Singhal forest or flees Alauddin's fort. As with all Bhansali's post-Khamoshifilms, this one too is operatic in tone and visually stunning. After a point though, all that flawless beauty architectural, sartorial and human becomes exhausting (as it did in his worst film so far, Guzaarish), especially because his biases, his penchant for overstatement and his regressive worldview overshadow all else.

Among the many contradictions in Padmaavat is the fact that it chooses to lionise Rajputs when, by its own admission, Chittor fell because of Rajput disunity and cowardice. H.R.H. Ratan seeks help from all his fellow Rajput rulers but they turn him down for fear of antagonising Alauddin.

The biggest and most frightening contradiction though comes in the horribly romanticised depiction of jauhar, although the opening disclaimer states that the film does not intend to glorify the custom. Really? Why then does a closing voiceover, right after the act is shown on screen, seek to deify Padmavati's sacrifice'? She walks towards the flames, her hair blowing in the breeze, her voluminous skirt swirling about her ankles, her eyes burning with determination, full-bodied music playing in the background, joined by a sea of women clad in bridal red (including I wanted to vomit when I saw this a pregnant woman and a little girl) all voluntarily approaching their death.

That anonymous child is the only one in the crowd looking fearful rather than purposeful. I wonder if Bhansali let that shot of her frightened face slip in by mistake, because the rest of that elongated passage is clearly intended to valourise Rajput women. Jauhar was a horrendous practice underlining the belief that a woman's life is worth nothing if her vagina, the sole property of her husband or future husband, is invaded by another man. Considering that conservatives even in today's India place greater value on what they see as a woman's honour' over her life, it is scary that Bhansali has chosen to glamourise jauhar in his film in a bid to play to the Rajput gallery.

I am only portraying a reality from our past I can almost hear him say the words. There is a difference though, Mr Bhansali, between portraying a shameful reality and venerating it.

So yeah, everything in Padmaavat looks pretty, but the film has little else to offer beyond that, not even the striking performances that marked out Bhansali's last directorial venture, Bajirao Mastani, in 2015. Ranveer Singh appears to have bowed completely to Bhansali's vision of an evil Muslim king. While one cannot argue with an actor seeing a director as his captain, what is certainly worth questioning is his decision to accept this role with the full awareness of what that vision entailed in this case.

Others who have submitted entirely to Bhansali's line of thinking in their performances are Raza Murad playing the ravenous Muslim, Jalaluddin Khilji, and Jim Sarbh (who was so interesting in Konkona Sensharma's A Death In The Gunj just last year) here playing a scheming homosexual, Alauddin's slave Malik Ghafoor who one of the virtuously heterosexual H.R.H. Ratan's courtiers describes as Alauddin's "begum. Giggle giggle.

Shahid Kapoor as Ratan Singh has precisely one expression on his face from start to finish, which is such a disappointment considering how amazing he was in Vishal Bhardwaj's Haider (2014).

Deepika Padukone and Aditi Rao Hydari look great, of course. They are the only ones among the lead cast who manage to eke something out of the stereotype-ridden writing by Prakash R. Kapadia and Bhansali. Although their roles do not give them much space for depth, they remain convincing as epitomes of grace and elegance throughout.

Neither their presence nor the overkill of extravagant spectacle can save this film though. Apart from the tuneful 'Binte dil' and brief snatches of the background score, even the music does not match up to what Bhansali's films have delivered in the past.

Padmaavat's disturbing ideology misogynistic, communal and homophobic is bad enough. The final nail in the coffin is the lack of chemistry between Deepika Padukone and Shahid Kapoor, which made me long for the Aishwarya Rai-Hrithik Roshan pairing in the equally lavishly produced, vastly superior Jodhaa Akbar (2008). Remember Queen Jodhaa peeping out from behind curtains at the topless emperor? It was a scene crackling with electricity and longing. Watching Padmaavat's lead couple together though, I could not for the life of me understand why Padmavati gave a fig or her life for H.R.H. Ratan.

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ASHOK PANDIT

Finally saw @filmpadmaavat last night and all I can say is that this genius named #SanjayLeelaBhansali is a magician on celluloid! What an incredible film that pays one of the finest tributes to the valour of #Rajputs. Every frame is like poetry in motion! #Padmaavat
The cinematography, music, background score, choreography, costumes, production design, action sequences... each department absolutely shines! The hardwork and teamwork gone into making this epic piece of cinema comes through in every frame. #Padmaavat
@RanveerOfficial's menacing portrayal of #AllauddinKhilji is one of the best negative acts in #HindiCinema. His brilliance as an actor and his passion for his craft, shines through every scene. The song #KhaliBali is a treat to watch. What a beast! #Padmaavat
@deepikapadukone & @shahidkapoor's brilliant performances bring a lot of poise to the narrative. They're superb & portray their equally strong characters with immense grace. Each member of the supporting cast including @aditiraohydari is amazing. Full credit to @ShrutiMahajan01!
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Padmaavat' review: An insipid love letter to the Rajputs


Namrata Joshi JANUARY 24, 2018 10:52 IST


Exaltation of the Rajputs, glorification of jauhar, demonization of Khilji aside, 'Padmaavat' can't rise above being an overlong snoozefest

A bunch of Sanjay Leela Bhansali's recent films have been marked by a blatant gaze at, and celebration, of the male body the towel-wrapped Ranbir Kapoor in Saawariya; the glisteningly-oiled Ranveer Singh in Goliyon Ki Rasleela Ramleela or Singh's rippling muscles as he bathes in Bajirao Mastani.

The one scene in Padmaavat that made a modicum of impression on me was of Delhi Sultanate ruler Alauddin Khilji (Singh) in the bathtub with his ghulam (slave) Malik Kafur (Jim Sarbh). Bhansali plays on their male bonding, giving it a homoerotic touch. Unfortunately, even as he tries to push the envelope of queer identity politics in Bollywood, Bhansali ends up using it as a mere tool to underline all that's wrong with Khilji; his beastliness, dissolution and debauchery.

It's too much to expect depth and layers in a film which deliberately lives on the extremes an absolute demonisation of bad/dark/deviant/outsider Khilji (read Muslim) and cringing flattery of good/fair/normal/countrymen Rajputs (Hindus). What logic then for the curiously hurt Rajput pride when all the film does is singularly exalt the community one declamatory, old world dialogue after another, glossing over any remotely questionable chinks in their armour?

Take the carefully choreographed and orchestrated jauhar. Bhansali does try to make a warrior queen and political strategist out of Padmavati and lends a touch of resistance and rebellion to the act a la Ketan Mehta's Mirch Masala (replace chillies with burning coal) but that hardly balances out the eventual glorification of it, totally out of depth in these #MeToo times. Moreso because the primacy of the man and his honour is perennially underscored. For the jauhar,Padmavati has to seek her husband's permission; even her death is in his hands, and not her own.

Forget these ideological, political, feminist quibbles, my biggest issue with the film is that it is a yawn fest. If there's one disclaimer that Padmaavat should have rightfully sported, it is "any lapse into boredom is purely unintended and coincidental". For once, the tired reviewer in me demands the indulgence of adjectives Padmaavat is an interminable expanse of unadulterated dullness.

I may have had several bones to pick with Bhansali school of cinema the unapologetic gloss, the visual excesses, the heightened emotions but he does have the ability to whip up just the precise amount of drama in the right sequences, with flamboyance and flair. He also has a great ear for music and orchestrates some pulsating choreography in song-and-dance set pieces.

In Padmaavat, however, neither does he manage to hit the right notes when it comes to the soundtrack, nor is there a single sequence which lingers on. No character reaches out; no moment is able to move you. Padmaavat may well be Bhansali's most sterile and insipid outing since Saawariya and Guzaarish. It manages to wear down and exhaust rather than engage.

The colours, costumes and jewellery scream luxury and weigh the actors down but very strangely I also felt the glitzy spectacle getting dwarfed in 3D IMAX. The opulence doesn't seem as awe-inspiring, the special effects, especially in some of the battle scenes, are plain tacky and the actors seem like cardboard dolls of themselves in the long shots, acquiring a human visage only in extreme closeups, which is when Deepika Padukone (and Aditi Rao Hydari too) looks extremely regal and radiant, which she anyhow always does.

There is Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon lurking in her leaps and jumps in chasing a deer. Padukone and Shahid Kapur, however, don't have the sensual connect, the way she has had it with Ranveer Singh in Goliyon Ki Rasleela Ramleela and Bajirao Mastani. Singh, on the other hand, may be called Khilji here but the character and its interpretation is along the same lines as the unbridled sexual assertion, aggression and machismo of his character in Goliyon... The severely muscled and overly gymmed-up body stays as does the 'Tattad tattad' kind of dance. The likeable actor is dangerously close to falling into the "eccentric, flamboyant" trap. Hope someone rescues him from it soon.

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DNA Movie Review: Padmaavat is an enriching cinematic experience


Critics Rating: 4/5

Cast: Deepika Padukone, Ranveer Singh, Shahid Kapoor

Direction: Sanjay Leela Bhansali

Duration: 2 hours, 43 minutes

Language: Hindi (U/A)

Story: Alaudin Khilji (Ranveer), the face of evil from the Khalji dynasty is power-drunk and fond of all things exquisite (nayaab). When he hears that the Chittor Queen Rani Padmavati is breathtakingly beautiful he wants to 'possess' her. So, he wages war on her husband Maharwal Ratan Singh. Thus, begins one man's battle for honour and the other's battle for love.

Review: As far as history goes, I'm a novice on the actual chapter involving Rani Padmavati. So, pardon my ignorance. I therefore fail to understand the fringe group threats to this film. Honestly, there is nothing objectionable or unIndian in it.

Having said that as far as cinema goes, Sanjay Leela Bhansali is easily the best auteur-filmmaker in Bollywood. When he tells you a story, you listen, you applaud, you soak it in, you bask in its luminescence.

Padmaavat, is a work of fiction (as per the disclaimer) and it is based on 16th century Sufi poet, Malik Muhammad Jayasi's epic poem Padmavat. And once you come to terms with that, you just let yourself soak in the whole experience. Frankly, it's a harmless piece of cinema that doesn't dent anyone's honour.

In fact, the dialogue written by Bhansali and Prakash Kapadia speaks of Rajasthan's pride and valour. And, it showcases the bravery of the Rajputs by weaving it in a simple love-story between a king and his queen, who are forcibly drawn into a vortex of hatred and war because of the unreasonable quest of one man-Alaudin Khilji.

Every frame here is spectacular and opulent. And if you experience this film in 3-D, you are bound to enjoy it more.

The extreme nature of the three lead characters make them alluring. Khilji, is darker than the night, Ratan Singh is self-righteous and attractive. As for the queen herself, Padmavati is the epitome of grace and beauty. At the same time, she is feisty, and this makes her irresistible to both men and women.

This is also a love story with a difference because throughout Khilji never actually sets eyes on Padmavati, the object of his fantasy. And yet, Bhansali masterfully conveys so much madness and mayhem.

If you are a fan of the Bahubali format of story-telling Padmaavat will blow your mind. Everything here speaks of grandeur and greatness. Ranveer, from whose point of view, the story unfolds compels you to stay invested in him throughout. You are meant to hate him, but you are found guilty because you come out loving him. Shahid is understated and adds weight to the role of the royal. As for Deepika, well as of today, she is the queen of Indian cinema. And, here she stands tall, speaking eloquently with her eyes and breathing fire when necessary.

Fortunately, there is yet another disclaimer saying that the film does not propagate the custom of sati. That having been made clear, the jauharscene in the film is a highlight. And it leaves you teary-eyed.

Tip: Padmaavat is definitely worth a watch, for its scale, story-telling and stellar performances from the lead.

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Originally posted by: LegolasGondolin


You said it.. This person amazes me . First posing as a fan and then showing true colours

Lol. I'm a fan. Wow. Where is this hate coming from guys? 😆 I've been a contributor to the update thread for months now. Just because I followed a bad review and chose not to watch the film doesn't mean I'm evil. I just follow certain critics like a fanatic and trust them with my life.

I still worship Bhansali. I apologise if I'm offending anyone.
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Has Baradwaj Rangan reviewed the movie? Would love to read his opinion.

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