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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: LiveLifeHonest


I believe that you may be overstating the no. of films made for outsiders. Nepotism exists in other movie industries as well and besides those people on the list, we also have movies from successful actors, who are the products of nepotism and aren't on the list. Moreover, star kids get launched by bigger banners, who have more access to funds to reserve more theatres and for promotion as well (add onto this, they have the advantage of promotion by their relatives as well). The scale of the movies differ too. Most newcomers are launched in much small-scale movies, with little promotion. Most small-scale movies, by newcomers are promoted solely by word-of-mouth and their movies only succeed when they are strong word-of-mouth reviews. Most newbies rarely are launched in big banner movies. These are additional barriers that newbie actors have to overcome.


WOM nowadays play most important role, a 90 Lac opening of Newton suddenly turns into 22 Cr Success film just by positive WOM. A 2.50 Cr opening of Hindi Medium becomes HIT with 62 Cr Business.

So if Newcomers films doesn't get WOM, it ain't Starkids fault??? Fact is FILMS are much more in number for OUTSIDER than for INDISERS proves that MONEY is Spent more on Outsider, they couldn't prove their talent so blame on Nepotism.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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how come people claim that outsiders are not getting debut under big banners
ranveer, sid, sushant, saba qamar deepika all r outsiders i guess and worked with amazing producers in their debut films.

many say even after star kid give dozen of flops they stay in the industry, but outsiders dont get much chances -- just a simple question how many flops have akshay given in his initial filmography and still sustain in the industry for so long. as far as my limits knowledge is concerned he had a row of flops and he was never best actor out there either (correct me if m wrong)
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Are people still on it?
1.Nepotism doesn't make anyone a superstar but it gives a person launch vehicle, a film with lead part without having to do any auditions. An outsider on other hand will have to do auditions for years and if lucky will get role of supporting character (Sid Mal was exception)

2.They are supported and hyped universally by everyone - media, film industry. Just see the hype Jahnavi's film got.
Lets take example of Qaidi Band - both actors newcomers. Aadar Jain was related to Kapoor family and actress Anya an outsider. Compare hype and support both got, despite them acting alongside in the SAME FILM.

3. From your set of examples.
Abhishek Bachchan is not a superstar but how many flops has he given? And despite number of flops and proving he is not capable of any BO pull, gets FILMS AFTER FILMS.
Will the same privilege be given to a outsider? 2-3 flops and the career gets wrapped up.
Edited by ViccoTurmeric - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: ViccoTurmeric

Are people still on it?

1.Nepotism doesn't make anyone a superstar but it gives a person launch vehicle, a film with lead part without having to do any auditions. An outsider on other hand will have to do auditions for years and if lucky will get role of supporting character (Sid Mal was exception)

2.They are supported and hyped universally by everyone - media, film industry. Just see the hype Jahnavi's film got.
Lets take example of Qaidi Band - both actors newcomers. Aadar Jain was related to Kapoor family and actress Anya an outsider. Compare hype and support both got, despite them acting alongside in the SAME FILM.

3. From your set of examples.
Abhishek Bachchan is not a superstar but how many flops has he given? And despite number of flops and proving he is not capable of any BO pull, gets FILMS AFTER FILMS.
Will the same privilege be given to a outsider? 2-3 flops and the career gets wrapped up.


1. Who can guarantee that Star kid doesn't do auditions? Do u have any proof? If no, then give me proof of Deepika Padukone, Anushka Sharma, Rani Mukherji, Srk, Akshay kumar struggling for years in Auditions??

2. HYPE never make film successful, not every hype film is Success, thing which can't guarantee success why point out for star kid?

3. Akshay Kumar has strings of flop, 14-15 in a row, admit by himself, & he has done more films than Salman, Aamir, Ajay, Sunny deol. The Biggest Example of OUTSIDER Getting chance pe chance even after flop.

Outsiders Getting Launch:

1. Rani Mukherji

2. Preity Zinta

3. Vidya Balan

4. Srk

5. Akshay Kumar

6. Deepika Padukone

7. Anushka Sharma

8. Arjun Rampal

9. John Abraham

10. Sushant Singh Rajput

Outsider like Irrfan Khan, Nawaz, Rajkumarr Rao has strings of flops/disaster, check out their filmography, film after film despite that & HIT/SUCCESS? Minimum.
Edited by .Omkara. - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
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OUTSIDER STATS:

Kangana Ranaut

Films: 28

HIT: 5

Success: 11

Not even 50% HIT/Success, yet she got tons of films?

Preity Zinda

Films: 26

Hit: 6

Success: 11

Same stats, films got more, success less.

Bipasha Basu

Films: 40

Hit: 7

Success: 11

Priyanka Chopra

Films: 40

Hit: 9

Success: 18

Now tell me who says OUTSIDER don't get films??
Edited by .Omkara. - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
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I don't understand, why can't people "cry" because of nepotism??As if it's a good thing.😆
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Posted: 7 years ago
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OUTSIDER:

Films: 55

Hit: 3

Success: 11

Disaster: 26

Flop: 15

Can any INSIDER get this much OPPORTUNITY, please name that STAR KID who has? 😆
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Debate is baseless and examples are all childish 😆




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Posted: 7 years ago
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The situation in the 90's was diff to wht it is now...

The benefit a starkid got those days was the first film,the rest of their journey was their struggle...they didn't get much hype before the release...the initial few days number was low of their first film...the other banners won't invest in their films if they were not well received...the exceptions those days were yesteryear actors/actresses sons and daughters who had hype before their films release...

For eg like the hype Barsaat had Bobby Deol b/o then star Sunny and s/o Dharmendra and Twinkle Khanna d/o Rajesh Khanna or the hype Refugee had the son of megastar Amitabh and Kareena g/o of Raj Kapoor and sister of then star Karishma...the intial few days numbers of these films were way more than the other newbies...
Edited by raj80 - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: raj80

The situation in the 90's was diff to wht it is now...

The benefit a starkid got those days was the first film,the rest of their journey was their struggle...they didn't get much hype before the release...the initial few days number was low of their first films...the other banners won't invest in their films if they were not well received...the exceptions those days were yesteryear actors/actresses sons and daughters who had hype before their films release...

For eg like the hype Barsaat had Bobby Deol b/o then star Sunny and s/o of Dharmendra and Twinkle d/o Rajesh Khanna or the hype Refugee had the son of megastar Amitabh and Kareena g/o of Raj Kapoor and sister of then star Karishma...the intial few days numbers of theses films were way more than the other newbies...


and that too BIG BANNER

leave actress aside

during 1990 which newcomer got BIG BANNER except shubhash ghai's Saudagar vivek mushran...

none

if actress list like kangana and deepika are complied which family star female kid was available...during that time...




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