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Posted: 7 years ago
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It takes a lot of courage and gumption to speak up against a system, especially a system which you are a part of. Not everyone has that.
This topic is a prime example why most people never speak up about the struggles they have faced or people who make things difficult. People would rather maintain the uncomfortable status quo rather than answer to an inquisition about their motives.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Some speak up , some don't. what's your point ? lol
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: grounder

Kangana was doing fine until after Queen when DP bought the award but shrewdly dedicated it to Kangu while receiving the said award. Kangu spoke about it in public just as a matter of fact. But as it happens in India, everyone started hailing Kangu who was already being loved a lot at that time because of Queen. I have to admit, I was one of those people. After that Kangu spoke about this or that one after another and people kept on hailing her and she got carried away so much that she didn't mind blabbering non-stop, after all people were lapping up everything she said and no one questioned her words (some of which were utter bullshit). The end result, this all got too far. Now, I do not know if HR is really innocent or just too shrewd to have covered all his tracks. But the point is Kangana does not have the required proofs .. maybe the proof never existed because her story is a lie or maybe some of the story is true but , there is no proof because HR is smart. Either way, KR has spoken too much and some of it without any substance and hence, she is in the mess that she is in now.


And honestly, DP has never spoken about anything because she kind of never really struggled. A privileged background, debut with SRK and Farah Khan, affair with RK and then stardom and even HW. No struggle, no bitterness. The bitterness she had after her breakup with RK, that she took out with all the venom every now and then by either using her PR or ensuring tension between RK and Kat and their eventual breakup.

Anushka has spoken about her army background and stuff a lot. But behind all that strong and independent facade, she has always been trying to ensure her place in KJo and RK's coterie. So, there is no way that she would talk about nepotism and lose that feet she has in the inner circle of BW.

PC had another wave going on .. when she was with SRK, she also started talking like him -- about her being the best, buying Rolce Royce etc. She has calmed down these days because of the breakup as well as her bollywood career slowing down.

So, honestly, it's just a matter of where a person is .. mentally and socially at a certain point in time. That is what they talk about mostly. Kangana had a lot of negativity bottled inside her because of the way KJo and gang made fun of her accent, her lack of english speaking skills etc. So, when the public loved and encouraged her honesty initially, she went on and on and on about her struggles and everything else under the sun. It's just how it is. People usually get carried away doing things that masses encourage them to do.


DP had bought that trophy ? Really, i do not know what to say. Trophies are no way to judge the performances so i don't know what is the point of having cat fights over an award.

DP did talk about her depression though, and her relation with RK was fruitful to both of them, otherwise its obvious how RK struggles to deliver a successful movie now.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Everyone's life story is different. So what if Deepika didn't complain? She was the daughter of a world famous athlete and they had contacts with celebrity photographers and high society. She got pics taken, immediately became a model, did a video and got spotted by Farah Khan.

She had a dream debut with a huge publicity push from SRK and Farah and started dating the Kapoor scion. When he dumped her, she also went wild and complained. Probably the first time something didn't come easily to her.

Kangana had to fight her family, establish herself alone as a teenager, got exploited and abused by Aditya Pancholi (he has admitted himself to hitting her), had to knock on producer's doors and was treated like a pariah even after finding some success.

Anu has also complained a lot about people making fun of her looks and whatever insecurities she has.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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For me its how and when you talk about things that matters.After being successful everyone talks about their struggles
Deepika when she won film fare award read her father's letter in the award ceremony showing how a middle class girl achieved so much success

Priyanka went on many US shows and said how unfair things were with her when she was in school in US ,that everyone bullied her for being brown.

My point is everyone talks about their struggles when they become successful its very normal.

The difference is these people spoke about it a few times and that was it.They don't keep harping on about it.But Kangana keeps using her struggles to gain more sympathy.That's the issue. Yes i appreciate her for being strong enough to overcome struggles and become successful. But she can't use that every time.

Also other's didn't use their struggles to bring other actresses down.They just spoke about their struggles.But Kangana uses it to show how awesome she is and how ridiculous everyone else is.

These are the main two differences
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: TeAmo_Messi


I would believe you if she would only talk about her struggle and success, but no, she took digs at her contemporaries and even claimed that they do not have a career growth like her. And I think you are exaggerating over here saying that she was in a league of her own, i would agree with this had she not done B-grade commercial films unless she landed with queen, not like she was doing artsy cinema due to which she can be called to be in another league. It will be only Vidya balan who can be considered to be in her own league since she has always tried to do films that are different and centered around her whereas Kangna has done nothing on her own apart from Fashion and years later TWM along with queen.



I understand what you mean...this is the effect of what all that had on her psychologically...I'm telling you this because my father is like that too...

I guess different people have different ways to cope and the way their brains process things is different too...speaking of Vidya, she too struggled and was made fun of but she is not the kind to speak the way Kangana has...it's all because of the support she had at home when she was struggling...

Kangana hjas that mentality of me against the world...it's because of what she went through in her need to be different. I can't imagine what it was like being a girl for her...because to her, she wasn't happy and wanted to break the barriers. She wasn't happy to settle, she wanted more..no doubt, all that messed up her brain and the way she sees the world..

although now that I think about it, I personally cannot judge her behaviour because I don't truly know what she went through...only she knows..maybe that's why she's like that.


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Posted: 7 years ago
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Baring all HR controversy I love the woman and I am proud of her!

You have a voice, voice that can bring a change for good. Voice that can make people aware of the facade BW or society loves to hide behind. Voice that will make people realise what real struggle ought to look like. Voice that will make the powerful weak and weak powerful...
THEN DAMN YES Raise it!

For you its 'complain', for me it's taking full potential of her platform and voicing her opinions.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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If they speak up against nepotism, they're gonna be alienated. Let's not pretend it's as easy as pie. To be on top, one gotta bootlick an army of formidable insiders. And her claims with HR may be unsubstantiated, however, her issues with nepotism were as real as it can get.
And regarding Rangy being her manager - is there any evidence that KR pays her? Genuinely asking since I don't know.


I read an IV of hers about how she struggled & earned money through her movies and a huge chunk of it went to Rangoli's acid treatment. What if Rangy's working for her just out of gratefulness? So that's a pretty naive argument sounds ridiculous.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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She is not the only one who went through struggles. People say that DP, Anushka and PC had family support and privileged life and got good debuts.
But what about Katrina? She went from BOOM to DHOOM.
It must be the worst debut for any leading actress. She was on her own from teens, is a foreigner, do not know the language and people.
She made it to the top league and she is not much of an actress either.
She is a bad actress, but all her co stars says she is a very hard worker.
I don't think she the doormat people make her to be. Even in her peak, she never complained or dissed people who worked with her.
Even with the worst debut like Boom she was not considered B grade like Kangana.
Being strong does not mean you sling mud on everyone, air your dirty laundry, fight with every one you work with and keep harping how you are gift to humanity.
Strong is accepting your mistakes, learning from them, know when to let people/things go with dignity ,grow as a person and thank your blessings.
I am not aware if she is involved in any worthy causes atleast, apart from personal battles.
And talk about chosen ones and higher purposes, LMAO !!!
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Posted: 7 years ago
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I have heard many celebrities who came from outside who have no complaints against the industry. Even most who say their is a lot of nepotism, don't complain about it the way she does. They did not get an easy "launch" from a friend or relative. They had to initially struggle in a way star kids might not but no one was trying to exclude them or keep them down.

It is human nature for people to look out for each other (we would not survive as a species if we didn't) and human nature to look out more for people we care more about. What (good) parent will not try to give his child the best opportunities possible? In my family that was an expensive education. In a business family, it will be a business. In a filmi family it will be a film. I don't pretend to be the smartest or most motivated person on my street even, but my parents didn't have open testing to figure out which person they would spend their own money supporting through school (my education wasn't completed until I was 26, clearly an adult BTW). I don't really see any difference in Rakesh Roshan mortgaging almost everything he owned to make a film for his own son. It's his money of course he will use it for his own son if that's what his son's dream is. It was my parents money that sent me through schools plenty of other people deserved (maybe even much much more) and couldn't afford. My parents didn't hate those more qualified people, plot against them and sit around laughing about it, they just chose to spend their money on me. Imagine if someone tried to vilify them for not having testing open to everyone to see who most deserved their money for an education?

I think somehow nepotism has been reframed as an us vs them which makes it seem like the insiders are hostile to the outsiders which isn't true. I will get slammed for writing this but whatever - Kangana seems to have a persecution complex, she views anyone not actively supporting her as someone out to get her. The industry may in fact feel very ant KR now but I don't think it has the slightest thing to do with her being a woman or being an outsider.

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