Kareena on Nepotism: If there's Alia Bhatt, there's also Kangana - Page 6

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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: desigal90


It's not murder though. It's connections. And that's true in all fields. You think medicine is spared?
I can vouch from experience, I know some fellow doctors who knew that all they had to do was pass the Boards and not worry about scores, coz they had family sitting at the heads of residencies. Most of the students with me had doctors in the family.

All fields have some level of nepotism. Any job is easier if you have family sitting in there. My friend got her sister a job as a civil engineer in the same company she works.

I just think the debate is overdone in Bollywood at this point. Does it give you the initial push to be a star kid? MOST DEFINITELY YES. But will it determine if you're successful? I don't think so.

I think Varun, Ranbir, Alia, Kareena, Hrithik, Salman, Kajol, Rani, Saif got this far coz they had something that the audience liked.
Similarly, Akshay, Shahrukh, Ranveer, Kangana, Priyanka, Rajkumar Rao, Ayushman, Siddharth, are here coz the audience likes them. Some of the top heroines in recent times have NOT been steroids. Katrina? Deepika? Priyanka? Kareena has a point. At the end of the day audience gets to have the last say.

Not all outsiders should be hailed just coz they're outsiders, similarly not all star kids are successful if the audience doesnt like them. Some exceptions make it though. Hell people shit on Arjun Kapoor all the time but his films work. He has quite a fan following.


Still it being done in one field doesn't make it acceptable in others. Ill give you a another example can you say women oppression is ok in India because the United States still has some degree of it. That seems to me to be the gist of her argument because done in business, politics, medical profession to some extent it makes ok in Showbiz? I don't agree with her because like I said I don't adhere to two wrongs making a right philosophy? Yes connection lay down the foundation for nepotism but that's not her argument her argument because its acceptable everywhere else; it makes acceptable in Bollywood.

The second part of her argument makes more sense if there is an Alia there is Kangana. In both case talent has prevailed. But Kangana struggled a lot more then Alia, even though she too was appreciated by critics from early on.
Edited by grumpydwarf - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
#52

Originally posted by: desigal90



Just had to point out look how many members are agreeing with her point. If that point makes Kareena dumb, by extension you called a whole lot of people dumb here lol.

Just an example of how Kareena will say something and it automatically gets deemed dumb if you don't agree with her. It's not dumb. It's a different perspective. And there's a debate about it for that reason.

your girl is pushing 40 and still as dumb as rocks
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Posted: 8 years ago
#53
How about this "babe", I ain't your babe lol.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: desigal90

How about this "babe", I ain't your babe lol.


kuch aur sweetheart? 😆
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Posted: 8 years ago
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kuch aur sweetheart?😆


That's all smartass 😛
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Posted: 8 years ago
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What exactly did she say wrong that people are calling her dumb?Also for a good measure, she did hail Kangana...Now what else is a girl to do?😕
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Posted: 8 years ago
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The Kareena haters calling her dumb for this statement don't realize how many members they called dumb in this topic that agreed with her. 50% at least.

Ahh what hate does to you.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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😆 Nepotism HR Nepotism HR. Kangana's journey in BW will be remembered more for these 2 than those 3 precious and deserving NA. Sad. 😒

I dont understand the concept of the protest against Nepotism. Parents or known relatives will refer their buddies and that's prevailing everywhere. In small scale industries, people don't even post advertisements of any openings, they spread the news amongst their friend circles and get people on board to start with. Madam's reference stands 100% valid for business references. When a company is owned by someone or a family, they can do precisely whatever with it. Crying foul doesn't help since it's not PSU we are talking about. Heck even a non-private company like Infosys tried to shove Rohan Murthy on its associates with reference to his father Narayan Murthy.


Production houses are here for business and not for charity. They can give chance to whoever they think will bring them money. Yeah with all these untalented starkids, BW is going down and running in loss, their problem and they would pay for it. But no one can force them NOT to do something they wish to. If one doesn't like nepotism products, one is free not to make their movie hit, with that hopefully one day BW kids will have to go through screentests as well 👏. Else, crying foul hardly helps when many starkids are proving to be successful which is why they aint repenting their decisions.


BW is lucky that they don't have reservations. BW is a fancy world with excessive money floating around whereas middle-class people suffer the most due to quota and reservations which is bigger issue than so-called nepotism. 🥱 Now that Kangana has become self-proclaimed superstar come producer/director/writer, she can do some charity service by taking 'real' talents in her movies. Hope she gets hit with them and doesn't run in loss which will put her in two minds.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: ajaajaa




Say what you want to about Kangana but she really started something here.

People ARE talking about nepotism now,
Aadar Jain was totally gonna be launched as a Kapoor but the negative backlash meant that YRF dropped that whole association.

Maybe her career will survive, maybe it won't but she set the groundwork & the audience is about to be a bit more critical now.



I wish it was true. In last 20 years I have seen this nepotism topic blip on radar and disappear. It reaches its peak when movies start failing. Hits sort of pushes it to ground zero. She is not first or last person to talk about it. Audience don't give f about insider or outsider as long as movie is entertaining. See the clash. Did anyone care shubh mangaal had outsiders while badshahoo had 2 insider. Or that Amjad Khan was insider or RD's father was great music director. No one has time to sit and think. To audience entertainment is what they see on screen. Good, bad or Ugly is how they decide.

Rather than becoming SM hero and vigilante she should learn to sell her movies. Unlike many others, she has true blue talent to sell. She doesn't need noise. SM has replaced newspaper. Its power are limited, Media loves selling their own agenda. They don't care what is happening with Kangs as long as she sells their headline. But Kangana's career is coming to stand still. 😳
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Posted: 8 years ago
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I feel that's not even a fair comparison. Alia hasn't had to put in even 1/4th of the hustle that someone like Kangana has had to get to get to her current place in Bollywood.

Bas all Aloo has to do is act well in her films, do her promotions, and create some off-screen buzz...the peeps around her will do the rest in helping her land good projects.
Edited by charismatic-gem - 8 years ago

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