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Posted: 8 years ago
What's the use of this baseless debate ??..

and this shobha de I hate her since her Olympic remark...
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: SamsinghR

What's the use of this baseless debate ??..

and this shobha de I hate her since her Olympic remark...

just Olympic remark...she love to give controversial headline to be in the news waisay bhi nobody gives her importance.
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: hippopotamus




1. Lunatics/bigots/low lives are everywhere in every country, every ethnicity, every religion, every social category, every gender, every BMI category. Hippo is driven by good people not low lives. They wont drive me out of this forum. However the day I started seeing good people changing to bad then I will leave this forum for good. Lunatics ...my jooti doesnt care.

2. Hippo is a straight shooter and even lunatics cannot tackle Hippo easily. Hippo makes his analysis on logic, reasoning, truth and his IQ of 160. If anyone including Pakistani goes against it, Hippo will shoot from his hip.

3. I think Fawad has behaved well by staying quiet and not eager to work. It was his earlier actions that I have some doubt. Now he is fine and I said in my first post. he has moved on


1. Next time address the great Hippo directly.

2. Indian movies are indeed made for us. If not then Bollywood should stop putting movies in cinemas in Pakistan. In Karachi I have seen multiple movies running in 10 cinemas. Please do not pass such a comment without street knowledge. Bollywood would not like to make itself Indian only..It is an industry not some exclusive fanatic Pakistan hating parivaar

3. We do not watch movies of stars who speak against our country. I dont give a dollar to them. Dont worry..we are intelligent enough to realize that.. However rest of the people I dont discriminate against.

4. Difference between Fawad and Hippo is following

a- I did not go to India to work, to make money. I have never even seen that country. It has nothing to do with my real life as in job, education, money etc.

b- The good example is USA. And here I am feel wanted and no one behaves bad (at least on face). Now if things changes and this country becomes for me what India has become for Pakistanis then sure I will leave.

c- Bollywood is a commodity. They sell their products to us and we are consumers. By your logic I should stop going to local Indian store also. The issue of self respect does not arise.

d- Fawad is active. He was going extra step and wanting work. So he or others like him should show respect and not go there when there are goons and badmassh people abusing them. Simple. He did that I agree. Now I want others to stop

In conclusion do not compare members here posting to stars working in bollywood. here we are welcomed and there is no one stopping us. If you go to Pakistan newspapers like DAWN 70% of comments there are of Indians. Why are they there?

So dont give this logic again.

I, Hippopotamus, stand by my earlier comment of asking Pakistani artists to stop working in Bollywood unless and until things improve and one feels wanted. We audience are wanted and hence Bollywood producers putting their movies in Pakistani cinemas.



Thank you so much hipo for concurring my point being a fellow Pakistani. I have been bullied a lot on this point stating 'am I real' for stating that. You actually proved my point that the sentiments of Pakistani people are common on this issue. Now we have never met never interacted on this issue and think that no artist from Pakistan should work anywhere if they are not wanted or not respected over there.


@Green:thats actually I have was referring to in one of my posts when I said that things have changed since October 2016. Fawad looked like a desperate one when he was making himself exclusive for Indian Cinema. Now he is back and have learnt his lesson and sounds mature.


@Red: Agree with you here again! Indian movies are not made for Pakistan but one wants a Pakistani to work for them? Pakistan is such a big market for India and major contribution from overseas/gulf countries comes from Pakistan. So I dont get this rude comment from someone whenever they say 'Indian movies are made for Indians only'. That is utter nonsense and even Indian Directors will disagree with that. You yourself sound hypocrite when you hate Pakistanis at one place make such sweeping and rude statements and want their actor to work for you!


@Blue: Thank you again for putting this so eloquently! Thats what I ve been saying! I am a researcher myself and collaborating with many Indians on my research. We read their articles give them feedback and even recommend some of the books written by Indian Professors in our Universities. That doesnt mean I should go and start doing job over there or attend some conference even for the sake of my profession. Using their commodity with our own money and forcefully and shamefully working there when you are not desired are 2 separate issues. Again no one stopped Fawad not to watch Indian films!! How does it become different criteria?


For the fellas who are indirectly hinting at some butthurt fan who is angry with Fawad for not working with his/her fav actress, if that someone is supposed to be me then let me disappoint you I have no fav actress from anywhere in the world. 😆 Sorry to burst your bubble but Mahira is not my fav actress and I actually feel sorry for her now as now I get why the thread where pics of Ranbir and her were posted was bumped by Fawad fans alot and they posted many conspiracy theories about her maligning her image and calling her names 😆 I dont care whoever fawad works with or not I am not that shallow to change my loyalties for that neither he was called Anti National for working in Indian movies. Thats stupidity at its peak!!If that butthurt fan is not supposed to be me then its fine I dont care 😆

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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: SamsinghR

What's the use of this baseless debate ??..

and this shobha de I hate her since her Olympic remark...


Oh i just read it...Shobha is big weirdo
Edited by maha15 - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: ZulekhaKhan


Thank you so much hipo for concurring my point being a fellow Pakistani. I have been bullied a lot on this point stating 'am I real' for stating that. You actually proved my point that the sentiments of Pakistani people are common on this issue. Now we have never met never interacted on this issue and think that no artist from Pakistan should work anywhere if they are not wanted or not respected over there.


@Green:thats actually I have was referring to in one of my posts when I said that things have changed since October 2016. Fawad looked like a desperate one when he was making himself exclusive for Indian Cinema. Now he is back and have learnt his lesson and sounds mature.


@Red: Agree with you here again! Indian movies are not made for Pakistan but one wants a Pakistani to work for them? Pakistan is such a big market for India and major contribution from overseas/gulf countries comes from Pakistan. So I dont get this rude comment from someone whenever they say 'Indian movies are made for Indians only'. That is utter nonsense and even Indian Directors will disagree with that. You yourself sound hypocrite when you hate Pakistanis at one place make such sweeping and rude statements and want their actor to work for you!


@Blue: Thank you again for putting this so eloquently! Thats what I ve been saying! I am a researcher myself and collaborating with many Indians on my research. We read their articles give them feedback and even recommend some of the books written by Indian Professors in our Universities. That doesnt mean I should go and start doing job over there or attend some conference even for the sake of my profession. Using their commodity with our own money and forcefully and shamefully working there when you are not desired are 2 separate issues. Again no one stopped Fawad not to watch Indian films!! How does it become different criteria?


For the fellas who are indirectly hinting at some butthurt fan who is angry with Fawad for not working with his/her fav actress, if that someone is supposed to be me then let me disappoint you I have no fav actress from anywhere in the world. 😆 Sorry to burst your bubble but Mahira is not my fav actress and I actually feel sorry for her now as now I get why the thread where pics of Ranbir and her were posted was bumped by Fawad fans alot and they posted many conspiracy theories about her maligning her image and calling her names 😆 I dont care whoever fawad works with or not I am not that shallow to change my loyalties for that neither he was called Anti National for working in Indian movies. Thats stupidity at its peak!!If that butthurt fan is not supposed to be me then its fine I dont care 😆


You are welcome. lol.

I am not aware of the forum dynamics and what went on. That was my analysis

I am glad we agreed.


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Posted: 8 years ago
Shobha De herself should be banned along with KRK next. Which other county is ready to take this two trolls as citizen?

Uri attack and nationalist propaganda was dream I guess. ADHM was first movie to be released after that attack. So that was going to be most affected. It was a big movie considering KJO was the director and took the brunt. I guess no one wants to digest the fact that theaters did get vandalized.

It is Fawad's misfortune that he was in that movie. If not for that co-incidence, he could gone under radar like many other actors. Nobody targeted him because he was threat but because he was at wrong place at wrong time. But iss 2 Rs troll koh kaun samjaye... 😆
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: IchadhariNagin


@bips-
This is one of the most bizarre thing I have read about north east states.
We don't want train😆 heck we are craving for train tramways better transportation system.
We don't have any prob with non east Indian and immigrants and would love to see them in our states but main prob is those immigrants who are burden on us and their sole intention is to change the demography and those who believes in Sharia law.
North east Indians are working in every major city of India but you don't see them as tuk tuk driver or working as cheap labour and we expect the same with other states people.




i never said that the north east does not want trains ... i was talking about the special permits required to enter the area and how the locals are very strict about it as they are afraid that the population dynamics (or demography as you correctly said) might change.

and as an example i said that a train launched was suspended for the same reason

this is the naharlagun train which was suspended after just 31 days of operation because of the permit issue.

http://indianexpress.com/article/india/india-others/a-train-stops-at-naharlagun/

http://indianexpress.com/article/india/india-others/first-train-suspended-within-a-month-pm-to-flag-off-new-trains-from-arunachal-on-friday/


And yes i agree with you that the NE desperately needs more connectivity and transportation. I did not say otherwise at all
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: 09tanki

Fawad is more popular among pak actor, but in general people may not know much about him, because all he has done is cameo role in few movies, other actor have done only 1 project.

On the topic shobha de is just another blogger, why r people even discussing about her views, she hasnt done any movie and not related to bollywood.


By your logic none of us here have done any movie nor related to Bollywood so we all should not be here discussing films or stars. Anyways Shobha isnt the only one. There was another article on Hindu published a month ago saying the same thing.

The games Thackerays play

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Safety net: The fact that Saba Qamar, the Pakistani star cast opposite Irrfan Khan in Hindi Medium, is not as known in India as her compatriot Fawad Khan has helped the film. It has completed four weeks in theatres, with a box office collection of 62 crore

Sparing Hindi Medium, Raees and Dear Zindagi, attacking Ae Dil Hai Mushkil how Mumbai's first family of cultural policing cherrypicks controversies

It is Bollywood's sleeper hit of the year, having quietly completed four weeks in theatres and netted over 62 crore at domestic turnstiles as this column goes to press. As it happens, Hindi Medium starring Irrfan Khan and Pakistani artiste Saba Qamar raises political questions that go beyond its theme. For one, why has Mumbai's nationalist brigade not protested against the casting, as they did in the run-up to the release of Karan Johar's Ae Dil Hai Mushkil (ADHM) starring Qamar's compatriot Fawad Khan? What happened to the rhetoric about boycotting Pakistani talent following the Uri attacks?

Hindi Medium is not the only one that got away. Between October 2016 and May 2017, at least four Hindi films starring Pakistanis have come to Indian theatres, but extremists have victimised only one: ADHM last October. Raj Thackeray and his Maharashtra Navnirman Sena (MNS), with the tacit collusion of the Central and State governments, harangued Johar over Fawad, prompting the panicked producer-director to issue an apology and even rewrite, re-edit and re-dub his film to erase a crucial, potentially contentious aspect of his storyline: that ADHM was originally an India-Pakistan romance. (For details, read the November 2016 edition of Film Fatale: How KJo reworked Ae Dil Hai Mushkil').

Johar also did not quell rumours that he donated 5 crore to the Army Welfare Fund, a penance' supposedly stipulated by Raj. Sources in the film industry and defence establishment tell me no such payment was made. However, Johar's silence on the false stories in circulation helped Raj to further strut his fake bravado. Just weeks later, Dear Zindagi starring Alia Bhatt, Shah Rukh Khan and Pakistani actor Ali Zafar came to theatres, unopposed by Raj & Co, his estranged cousin Uddhav and Shiv Sena, who together form Mumbai's first family of cultural policing.

To understand the difference in extremist responses to ADHM and Dear Zindagi, rewind to October 2009 when MNS threatened to block Johar's production Wake Up Sid on discovering that its characters were referring to "Mumbai as "Bombay. Johar apologised, thus gifting Raj an important political victory.

Shortly afterwards, Cousin Uddhav decided to use Johar now with a reputation as an easy mark to score a point in the game of one-upmanship with Cousin Raj. The SRK-starrer My Name Is Khan(MNIK), directed by Johar and co-produced by Shah Rukh's Red Chillies Entertainment, was scheduled for an early 2010 release. Uddhav decreed that Shiv Sena would obstruct it unless Shah Rukh apologised for remarks made a short while earlier about the need to include Pakistani players in the IPL. Shah Rukh refused, MNIK was released despite hitches, and Uddhav wound up with egg on his face.

You may now understand why, in 2016, Raj was confident that grandstanding over Johar's ADHMwould pay off, but steered clear of Dear Zindagi (a Shah Rukh-starrer, and a co-production between Johar, director Gauri Shinde and Red Chillies). What if he or Uddhav had demanded contrition for the casting and been snubbed? A bully fears nothing more than losing face.

Besides, both Thackerays understand news cycles and would have known that sustaining the ruckus for four weeks after ADHM's release would have been near-impossible. The media would have moved on to other stories, and organisations like the Senas are nothing without the spotlight on their aggressions.

This is not to say that Shah Rukh is unbendable. India in 2017 is vastly different from 2010, when the left-of-centre Congress was in power at the Centre and in Maharashtra, and the actor may have felt that both governments had his back in the MNIK fracas. Today, with the right-wing BJP ruling India and Maharashtra, not surprisingly, Shah Rukh held a pre-emptive meeting at Raj's house in the run-up to this January's release of his home production Raees, in which he played the lead opposite Mahira Khan from Pakistan. (Disappointing though it is that Shah Rukh chose to legitimise Raj as an extra-Constitutional authority, it must be acknowledged that a toned-down Raj seemed to tread carefully around him.)

This brings us back to Hindi Medium. A spokesperson for the production company T-Series confirms that during the ADHM episode they had informed Raj that they finished shooting Hindi Medium long before Uri and promised not to use Qamar for the promotions. Raj would, in any case, have known that raising the same issue within just eight months would yield diminishing returns in the media. Besides, Qamar is not as familiar a face in India as Fawad. To target her film would be less politically rewarding.

Likewise, controversy over a small Irrfan-starrer is likely to get less media space than a massy KJo production or a Shah Rukh-starrer. Above all, Hindi Medium's theme language and class snobbery is a pet cause of the present Central government, whose spokespersons routinely demean opponents proficient in English by labelling them the "Lutyens elite. The ruling BJP is unlikely to have backed an assault on Hindi Medium, since it could have ended up being a self-goal.

Like the late Bal Thackeray before them, Raj and Uddhav cherrypick controversies with great thought. Keeping all these factors in mind, sparing Hindi Medium would have been a no-brainer for them.

Anna MM Vetticad is the author of The Adventures of an Intrepid Film Critic; @annavetticad

(This article was published on June 16, 2017)


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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: maha15

😆 Shobha ji...

Pakis missing Paki Actors in India...😕😆

whatver ...every after 1 month they miss them it seems n they make thread...🤣


Arent you the same Chinese member feeling so excited about Dangal release in China? The same China which:
-Is Pakistan's closest ally
-Blocks India's NSG bid and attempts to ban the terrorists targeting Kashmir
-Threatens to teach India the same lesson as 1962
-Insults India's peace overtures with the same language India uses against Pakistan
-Insults India's PM by cancelling a non existent meeting?
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: Heisenberg17.

LOL, no amount of crying, whining, throwing tantrums or whatever is ever going to make him return, get over it, the worthless, talentless nobody is gone, it's time you let it go.

For all those whose hearts cry out Fawad, you guys should just watch his paki movies instead, ask him to make more paki movies if you really want to see him. 😆


Ofcourse we will watch his work wherever he does them. Meanwhile you are destined to wring your hands in despair everytime Salman makes another 100cr for himself irrespective of the fate of his movies at the BO or everytime he is let off by another court. 😉

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