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Posted: 8 years ago
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^ Yes. That's my POV. I never claimed that everyone has to agree with me but to say WWE would've been nowhere today without Austin, is stretched & this is why I don't like him. Fans & WWE itself overrates & hypes him way too much. Look, I'm not discrediting his impact or his contribution to the industry. But, man that guy gets too much credit for everything which he doesn't deserve even a bit. Many other various superstars too have had hands in saving WWE and beating WCW in ratings. Yes. His vs Vince rivalry was the main headline feud of the attitude era along with his rivalry with The Rock, followed by Taker/Mankind, Taker/Kane, HBK/Bret. I've seen people dismissing every other legendary superstars contribution by saying they're nothing infront of SCSA, they're this & all that jazz. So, isn't this overrating someone?

Then, I've read stuffs about SCSA writing promo scripts for himself, adding his own lines, then refusing to feud with Brock & other wrestlers. He's started showing his true colors ever since he was out of the main event spot from 2002.

Also, regarding being over with the crowd even in that matter people lie about it. Those who've doubts can watch his match with Undertaker for the WWE title in '97, majority of the crowd was behind Taker, some even booed SCSA. But, WWE tries to make it seem like Austin was super over with the crowd since his debut which ain't true he had started getting huge pops from 1998 and really hate the way WWE hypes & tries to create an illusion that he's the most recognizable WWE superstar all over the world which is far from truth, his popularity is phenomenal in North America, but besides that apart from wrestling fans of other countries, no other non-wrestling fans know anything or have ever heard about SCSA. I'm not saying this because I'm not fond of Austin.

Nah. Losing clean as the Face of the company doesn't diminish their credibility unless its a badly booked match. Booing has nothing to do with clean losing. Like, Brock who's by far the most overpushed wrestler ever isn't that much over with the crowd so he neither receives extreme positive reaction nor negative, he mainly got that extreme heat for ending the streak because it was horribly booked & unexpected going by the buildup of the match, he didn't deserve it to end since he was a part-timer, or it didn't help him in either way, because he was already being perceived as the unstoppable monster & an established star who never needed it. All the faces of the company have had lost many clean matches but it never killed their credibility or fans turned against them. & you know the main reason why fans had started loathing Cena due to his superman push just like the same case with Roman. Infact, Austin would've disliked too if he was given THAT type of megapush in the modern era, I can bet on this. Fans are now even have started protesting against Brock's unworthy megapush. Even The Rock had jobbed to the likes of Hurricane & many other mid-carders when He was the top guy of WWE, then The Undertaker the most dominant & destructive force ever was one of the most strongly booked wrestlers, had lost clean numerous times throughout his career but his credibility was never diminished until 2015 when he became too old. Well, Austin was also booked as a superman like Hogan & I didn't like it because it didn't look believable to me most of the times. 😆 It suits gimmicks like Undertaker, Kane (unmasked) since they're larger than life characters, but Austin, Hogan, Rock, Cena etc are just extended version gimmicks of their real-self. Austin & Hogan these two are the most over protected faces of their company, Hogan atleast jobbed to lots of credible wrestlers (baring Randy & Shawn) during his second run from '02-'03 but Austin didn't even lose (even through some outside interference) to so many credible wrestlers who were over with the crowd. You've to be selfish in industries like WWE but he was just beyond selfish. Has he ever made any other opponents look good or great? The answer is No. Infact he didn't even lose clean ever until his retirement match against The Rock at Wrestlemania XIX. I know his career was cut-short but tell me how many memorable or great feuds ge had in his whole apart from his rivalries with Rock & Vince. Infact, his rivalry with The Rock wasn't even a big thing until 2001. Then, during WM XIX they've had promoted & hyped to a different level as the greatest rivalry in the history which people still buy to this date. Also, tell me how many memorable or great matches they had together apart from WM 17 & Wrestlemania XIX which was Austin's send off match and by the way it wasn't that much of an unforgettable match either. Also, the match quality wasn't good either. Same with their second meeting at WM. BTW, Rock's career was also cut-short (minus his second stint in WWE) due to HW, his 1st half of career lenth was pretty much like SCSA, but he's had so many amazing feuds in such a short pan of time from Mankind to Triple H to Chrish Jericho (which I rate much much higher than his overrated rivalry with Austin & one of my all time favorite feuds) etc.


Oh, yea Triple H is pathetic-ness personified. Nothing new about him. 😆 He was also an integral part of the Montreal Screwjob. 🤢
Edited by NadanParindey - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
#32

Originally posted by: NadanParindey

I know his career was cut-short but tell me how many memorable or great feuds had in his whole apart from his rivalries with Rock & Vince. Infact, his rivalry with The Rock wasn't even a big thing until 2001. Then, during WM XIX they've had promoted & hyped to a different level as the greatest rivalry in the history which people still buy to this date. Also, tell me how many memorable or great matches they had together apart from WM 17 & Wrestlemania XIX which was Austin's send off match and by the way it wasn't that much of an unforgettable match either. Also, the match quality wasn't good either. Same with their second meeting at WM. BTW, Rock's career was also cut-short (minus his second stint in WWE) due to HW, his 1st half of career lenth was pretty much like SCSA, but he's had so many amazing feuds in such a short pan of time from Mankind to Triple H to Chrish Jericho (which I rate much much higher than his overrated rivalry with Austin & one of my all time feuds) etc.


Oh, yea Triple H is pathetic-ness personified. Nothing new about him. 😆 He was also an integral part of the Montreal Screwjob. 🤢


With Bret Hart & the entire Hart Foundation which made him a big deal in WWF ,. it was also rated as the best fued of 1997 by Dave Meltzer , Had a pretty good fued with Triple H as well in late 2000 & early 2001 which ended with a classic 3 stages of hell match . And his fued with Kurt Angle was probably the only good thing in that horrendous Invasion storyline ... Angle really came out as a complete Main event talent after that.

I know him refusing to job to Lesnar in 2002 was pretty unprofessional and he regrets it now.
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Posted: 8 years ago
#33
^ I think its all subjective like,

The feud with Bret was good, loved their match at WM 13 until that Hart Foundation angle didn't like it.

Then the Triple H angle seemed out of the blue, it wasn't a memorable feud except their match at No Way Out 2001.

TBH I really didn't like anything about the invasion storyline let alone Austin/Kurt feud. I found that stupid Infact Austin's heel turn itself was so bogus, he totally flopped so badly as a heel.

The only thing I liked about the invasion storyline was some of the fun segments which were really good. 😆 The invasion storyline could've been legendary, had they scripted & booked it properly but it sucked to a whole new level. 😆

By the way who're yours all time favs apart from SCSA?
Edited by NadanParindey - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
#34
I've completely missed this movie. 😲
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Posted: 8 years ago
#35
N i just loved koi ishara frm force 2...the lyrics are soo good...n if u just listen the audio or read the lyrics..u will feel like the song is frm 1 sided lover's point of view

[YOUTUBE]https://youtu.be/_IqaC2KERG4[/YOUTUBE]


Edited by ShamrozSays - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
#36
I love tu S song & has heard it before
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: NadanParindey

^ I think its all subjective like,

The feud with Bret was good, loved their match at WM 13 until that Hart Foundation angle didn't like it.

Then the Triple H angle seemed out of the blue, it wasn't a memorable feud except their match at No Way Out 2001.

TBH I really didn't like anything about the invasion storyline let alone Austin/Kurt feud. I found that stupid Infact Austin's heel turn itself was so bogus, he totally flopped so badly as a heel.

The only thing I liked about the invasion storyline was some of the fun segments which were really good. 😆 The invasion storyline could've been legendary, had they scripted & booked it properly but it sucked to a whole new level. 😆

By the way who're yours all time favs apart from SCSA?



my top 10 would be
1) SCSA/Rock ( cant choose between these two )
2) HBK
3) Jericho
4) Taker
5) Kurt Angle
6) AJ Styles
7) Jeff Hardy
8) Sting
9) CM Punk
10) Kane

Other than them , Paul Heyman & Jim Ross are also my all time fav ppl from wrestling industry. 👏

BTW , have u seen this .. Jay Jaykara of BB2 ft. The Undertaker 😆

[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0qhK-LIXM8[/YOUTUBE]

Edited by -raVen- - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
#38

Originally posted by: NadanParindey

I really love this song so much. Extremely underappreciated & underrated.

[YOUTUBE]https://youtube.com/watch?v=SvscrxzfQ0w[/YOUTUBE]


this whole album is brilliant.
And Randeep in the movie was absolutely brilliant, even better than he was in Sarbajit. Alas the script was so weak.
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Posted: 8 years ago
#39

Originally posted by: ScreamForMe

@NP
I still love Paige but yeah her relationship with Del Rio ruined everything for her. She is with a guy who dissed WWE openly blaming them for harassing them and openly saying TNA is better than WWE Can't believe the Anti-Diva who was so popular in 2014-15 ruined her career. Even if Paige returns( which i highly doubt ) wwe will never Push her or anything. I won't be surprised if she gets released tbh.

And Charlotte? Don't even get me started🤢 If she wasn't Ric Flair's daughter she wouldn't be here today. Infact WWE is trying to or will tag her with Trish as the greatest of all time. She is already a 4 times women champion. She is just 3 reigns away from tagging Trish's record. Such a Disgrace and Shame🤢

As for AJ i don't like her tbh but yes i admit she made a huge impact during her time.

BTW there shpuld be a WWE forum on IF for wwe fans

Oh come on, Charlotte is arguably the best in ring female wrestler in the main rooster(Asuka is better than any women and many men if we talk about WWE as a whole), she is better in ring than Paige ever was. While having Paige would still have been great, but I think without her, WWE will suffer anyways. While its true Charlotte will never attain the status of Trish as she lacks the it, but as a pure wrestler she is already up there and maybe become even better, but than again we already have the new Trish- ALexa Bliss, although still need a lot improvement in ring, in mic skills, she is already up there with the best ever females.
Edited by U_R_MY_BITCH - 8 years ago
Posted: 8 years ago
#40
^
Better Wrestler than Paige?🤣

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