Why I told Arnab Goswami to shut up and left his show - Page 9

Originally posted by: -mistyeyed-

I haven't read all the posts, but what I was trying to say was that while the soldiers are definitely not in a pitiable condition, they are not leading a 'lavish lifestyle' as mentioned by one of the members.

The family of Kargil war martyrs had to fight for nearly 10 years to get compensations. The Government does take care of them, but the defense personnel also fight bureaucracy and corruption just like the rest of us.

Arent' there farmers in India who are millionaires and lead lavish lifestyles? And then there are those who have to commit suicide because they can't pay off their loans.

Just like you can't lump all farmers into one group and call them all poor and hungry and in need of financial help, you cannot lump all the armed forces together and declare that they are all very well-off and leading lavish lifestyles.

I still think that the particular post was very offensive and deliberately hurtful to the Indian Armed Forces and their families.

A Defence Personnel gets paid to defend and guard his country. How can you put a price on his life and say that its okay if they die, because their families get compensation? That is the most hurtful and vile thing to say for a soldier.

Originally posted by: Padfoot_Prongs

I have an uncle who was a sipahi in BSF and got retired at 35. another one was in army, came back at the same age. They cudn't find the big jobs. Ur cousin wud have been on upper ranks. They can find jobs becoz they have contacts. Upper strata hardly have any problem anywhere. It is the lower ranks who suffer. By similar examples, Big farmers have big kothis and live a better life than many businessmen. Then there are small farmers who face every difficulty.

Also by 'forced to retire', I meant it has been a part of policy. Their age of retirement is around that only. They cant work beyond that in army except in few cases.

Originally posted by: JustMySelf

this forum or monu tonu whatever knows or not i doubt that ex army men are employed
in many undercover jobs..if u have expertise n ur worth then the government hires
u in other fields to make use of the knowledge..
just like retired judges are made panel of scrutiny same way ex army men are given
various jobs..if ur in the navy u have to be in sea 6 months then come home..
until n unless ur called back on emergency..
the navy is like the cream of the army job..
all the unclaimed goods are auctioned off..n many times my uncle gets lot of things
freely donated..

India has a strange mindset jo dikhta hai wohi bikta hai..
farmers dnt come on tv interviews so turn blind to them..

Originally posted by: monu_tan

Just one last qs, did your higher strata defence family forgot to get u reservation for better education?

They get reservations too u see. Check with them.

Originally posted by: -mistyeyed-

I haven't read all the posts, but what I was trying to say was that while the soldiers are definitely not in a pitiable condition, they are not leading a 'lavish lifestyle' as mentioned by one of the members.

The family of Kargil war martyrs had to fight for nearly 10 years to get compensations. The Government does take care of them, but the defense personnel also fight bureaucracy and corruption just like the rest of us.

Arent' there farmers in India who are millionaires and lead lavish lifestyles? And then there are those who have to commit suicide because they can't pay off their loans.

Just like you can't lump all farmers into one group and call them all poor and hungry and in need of financial help, you cannot lump all the armed forces together and declare that they are all very well-off and leading lavish lifestyles.

I still think that the particular post was very offensive and deliberately hurtful to the Indian Armed Forces and their families.

A Defense Personnel gets paid to defend and guard his country. How can you put a price on his life and say that its okay if they die, because their families get compensation? That is the most hurtful and vile thing to say for a soldier.

i am that vile member..ur talking abt..
i did nt say its okay to die..
neither did i say compensation is enough..
i said that fund raising is nt required for the army in my pov..
try if ppl read too much or too little then of course a sane comment will also
look vile..
its nt my nature to insult anyone..or belittle anyone..
i merely said that the lady mita vashist who suggested fund raising..
i dnt support that..the army dnt need it..as 60-80% of our budget is allocated
for defense ..this field is well looked after by the gov..that is all i wished to say..
just pay ur taxes its enough to accumulate the funds required for the army..
u dnt need to go around door to door to collect funds..
most army has school for their children too..
army children dnt go to ordinary school either..
so i said help the farmers n their children..collect funds for them..
so that they can have two meals ..so that their children can go to a gov school
till class 8 at least..
bt i guess some ppl finds too much even in too simple comments..

Originally posted by: JustMySelf

i did nt say i am in the army..
now if u want my family tree plz give me ur email id..
u may or may nt believe me..i did nt come here to convince u..
neither its worth trying..
do u know anything abt customs?
do u know anything that navy gets lot of revenues from their?
do u know air force perks?
do u know the soldiers can put army sticker on their cars n roam abt?
do u know that being in the army if u just put the army sticker no one
hauls up ur car?
try something different plz..
dnt try get personal..

Are u ready to sacrifice your family member for all these luxuries or benefits??

Originally posted by: monu_tan

Just one last qs, did your higher strata defence family forgot to get u reservation for better education?

They get reservations too u see. Check with them.

just like i said the army is self sufficient so am i..
so thank u for ur enquiry n advice bt u see i am self sufficient..
i dnt need reservations as its in my genes fortunately for me n unfortunately for u..
btw ur in the army? n with this much ego n limited education of the mind?
quite strange..i must say..
patience n logic is the first thing the army is taught to nt desert u have non of the two
qualities in u it seems..i hope u dnt get retired early..

Originally posted by: shanky1

Are u ready to sacrifice your family member for all these luxuries or benefits??

did u read my comments intently or just following the flow of the floating ppl
just for the heck of remaining in the popularity ?

Originally posted by: JustMySelf

i am that vile member..ur talking abt..
i did nt say its okay to die..
neither did i say compensation is enough..
i said that fund raising is nt required for the army in my pov..
try if ppl read too much or too little then of course a sane comment will also
look vile..
its nt my nature to insult anyone..or belittle anyone..
i merely said that the lady mita vashist who suggested fund raising..
i dnt support that..the army dnt need it..as 60-80% of our budget is allocated
for defense ..this field is well looked after by the gov..that is all i wished to say..
just pay ur taxes its enough to accumulate the funds required for the army..
u dnt need to go around door to door to collect funds..
most army has school for their children too..
army children dnt go to ordinary school either..
so i said help the farmers n their children..collect funds for them..
so that they can have two meals ..so that their children can go to a gov school
till class 8 at least..
bt i guess some ppl finds too much even in too simple comments..

Patience and logic?? Where do they teach that? Tell me the slogan that has that, if you really know tgat?