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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: Bazigar


lol we hv all kind of movies in bollywood only this time we need to take the badge of patriotism by watching a movie , we got a movie maker who shout from roof top that ignorant like us will get ultimate enlightenment by watching his propaganda movie. He even try to sell his movie in repute institute with a movie having thrash content . 😆

It seems like we are in India version bush aka modi world of either u r with us or u r against us 😆

This is exactly what I see online too, mostly on Facebook. I don't really support the Indian Left or the Right, but I do support specific student agitations. And increasingly I see that people are falling into two groups, calling each other "bhakts" and "sickular" and there is no dialogue, or possibility of dialogue, between the two. Some days it reminds me of fan groups on IF 😆
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Posted: 9 years ago
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The article below is an eye opener on the kind of eco system that these so called liberals have built...of course there are good and bad eggs everywhere...left or right or centre! But one must admit that most of public discourse is dictated by the so called left liberals and right from the school education they start the brainwashing! Like it or not, these are becoming more apparent thanks to social media, and people are awakening to the truth which is good.

As for the movie - the article specifically talks of how the 'neutral critics' reviewed it and the critics obviously were swayed more by their own biases. Whether it was good or bad or Vivek Agnihotri is right or not, these people automatically associated him with Modi and 'right' and hence 'evil' as per today's 'intellectual' standards!

http://www.mediacrooks.com/2016/02/intolerant-evictions.html#.Vzqgt3rQ4no

"Intolerance"

I learnt the meaning of "Power" when I visited Delhi in 1994 to receive my Sanskriti Samman award and stayed for two days in India International Centre. I did have some familiarities with Information and culture ministries. However, IIC is the place where "Power" is served on a gold plate. IIC is located in a peaceful and luxurious bungalow with lawns, high class food and drinks, quietly moving waiters, the silken English spoken without the upper lip moving, lipsticked women gracefully adjusting their hair, the elegant welcome given to the inner circle members with signs and hugswithout making any noise!

I have stayed in many star hotels later. But I have never seen anywhere the luxury and comfort of IIC. IIC was established and funded by the Indian government as an independent body to promote arts and free thinking. If my memory serves me right, Dr. Karan Singh was also its head. I saw him that evening. I saw every intellectual that I had known through my reading of English language magazines. U R Ananthamurthy was staying there for almost four years almost as a permanent fixture. Girish Karnad was staying for a fewdays. Writers, journalists and thinkers such as Pritish Nandi, Makarand Paranjpe, Shobha De were seen everywhere in the Centre.

It was true that I was overwhelmed that day. Arunmozhi (my wife) ran to Girish Karnad on spotting him and was thrilled to introduce herself to him. I was told that Nayantara Sehgal used to come there on daily basis to have a drink. I saw her that day too. I realized that the two other individuals who were given the award along with me, Rajdeep Sardesai and Anamika Haksar were regulars there. They wear rough Kolkata kurtas and Kolhapuri chappals. Wear small glasses.Women in pure white hair and khadi saris.One of them, they said, was Kapila Vatsyayan. They said, Pupul Jayakar will also come. Wherever you turn, there were literary talks and art discussions.

That pomp kind of unnerved me. The ultra-high intellectualism seen there somewhat alienated me. Venkat Swaminathan, who saw me the next day, immediately recognised my sense of discomfort. He said, "Hey, three fourth of this crowd is just a perfect horde of crows (the Tamil equivalent of psychophants). The snobs that make their living aredraw their power by licking the boots of power centres. Most of them are mere power brokers. At best you may find one or two artists who you will really respect. And they can't bear this atmosphere for too long and willjust run away.

But these are the people who decide what is culture for this country. They can talk about everything in the world for one hour in colourful English with the right amount of jargon. But on the 61st minute, the colour will start fading. Actually they don't know anything in the real sense. Almost all are like the little boxes we find in attics which held things a long time back", said Venkat Swaminathan.

Everyone will have four or five trusts in the name of Service Organizations or Cultural Organizations. They will be flying from one conference to the other. Once they are given accommodation in a government bungalow, they can never be removed from there. In Delhi alone this crowd has illegally occupied about 5,000 bungalows. There is another Power Centre similar to this in Delhi which is called the JNU. It is the same story there too.

"Can't the government get rid of them?", I asked. He said, "normally governments do not think on that line. Because this crowd has stuck itself from the time of Nehru. They support each other. Even if some IAS officials try, they will fall at the right feet and escape".

"There is one more thing added to it" said Venkat Swaminathan. "Not only were these people just parasites, they also derive great power by showing themselves as progressive leftists. Did you notice it?". I said "Yes" with amazement. They are known throughout the world through the numerous seminars they attend. They are highly networked. Journalists around the world seek their opinion on whatever happens in India. They are the people who gave a leftist mask to the Congress Government. If you look at it that way, the amount spent on them is quite low", he said.They are the trolls sitting on the head of India and nobody can do anything to them. They decide what is art or culture or thought of India.

I have often been to IIC with my Malayalam journalist friends. For them, this is the place to pick rumours and convert them in to news. They know there are no secrets as the day wears out and the spirits rise higher and higher in the head. But I can only pity those people who engage in to political debates based on the supposedly rare gems of wisdoms dished out by these "intellectuals" through the middle pages of English newspapers. These intellectuals never actually know the real politics. They just shout on the basis of the superfluous knowledge and stand points, with the prime space enable by the network. That's all.

A long time back when I wrote about this Circle, I had mentioned that Barkha Dutt is no one else but a power broker, my own friends fought with me for degrading a "progressive fighter". Fortunately for me, within a few days, the brokering she did with Tata leaked out through the Nira Radia tapes. (Incidentally, what happened to that case, does anybody know?). But even those stark revelations could not bring down Barkha Dutt from her exalted pedestal even for a month. That isthe kind of power they have.

But now, for the first time in the history of independent India someone has dared to touch this power circle. Warnings were circulated at the lower level for about the last 6 months. Last week the Culture Ministry decided to send a notice to them. This, perhaps, is the reason for these intellectuals to suddenly flare up against "intolerance". For example, painter Jatin Das, father of actress Nandita Das is occupying a large government bungalow at one of the premium locations in Delhi free of cost for many years. Government has sent an eviction notice to him. This is the real reason for Nandita Das strongly speaking about intolerance in television channels and writing in English newspapers (all diligently carried by the network).

Even for a man as strong Modi, I think he has touched a wrong nerve. These elements are too powerful. They can destroy India through the media worldwide. They can create a picture that rivers of blood are flowing in India. They can make businessmen around the world to halt. They can wreck the tourism industry. The truth is there is no other power centre like this in India. Tolerating them is unavoidable for India. And Modi's intolerance of them is extremely dangerous - not only for him but for the country itself
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: Padfoot_Prongs

exactly. But in WB it is becoming difficult to survive if u are not leftist. also in Kerla. There are so many incidence of Violence. It Left has right to exist so does the Right.


What about Jharkand, Haryana, Bihar(non-right wing govt), Rajastan, MP, UP?? All these states one can live peacefully right, without being deprived of human rights, social justice.
I have no idea about how Bengal is but know very well about Kerala and people live much more peacefully without fear of any political party. Just the RSS guys these days slowly polarizing the mindsets.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: Padfoot_Prongs

exactly. But in WB it is becoming difficult to survive if u are not leftist. also in Kerla. There are so many incidence of Violence. It Left has right to exist so does the Right.


Dude Mamata is not leftist
But sadly she imbibed the worst of leftist ideologists
she actually have no ideology which is great for her to survive

However agree with you on this - extreme leftism is synonymous with violence
India still is better..Look at all over the world..They can demolish everything, take away right to speak out and make people slave. however everyone has right to exercise her/his ideology - leftist or rightist

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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: Actomyo


What about Jharkand, Haryana, Bihar(non-right wing govt), Rajastan, MP, UP?? All these states one can live peacefully right, without being deprived of human rights, social justice.
I have no idea about how Bengal is but know very well about Kerala and people live much more peacefully without fear of any political party. Just the RSS guys these days slowly polarizing the mindsets.


As I said left has demolished WB economy (except last few years when then chief minister tried to do some industrialization) however left regime social security was much much better than Mamata's regime. There was no problem with women security unless there was a political angle associated. Political violence was prevalent but not harping on everyday's life

I can not discredit Mamata for whatever she has done in rural and service sector (road, water etc). Its really good. But safety and security has collapsed badly and no industrialization. TMC is safe haven for goons. Left was same but there were some polished non criminal faces as well.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Since when opposing or protesting against a movie in India became a big issue? Didn't people protest against so many movies, didn't people issue threats to the producers, actors earlier too, didn't people vandalize theaters earlier too?? Then how this is becoming a major issue? Is it because this time the movie in question and people opposing it are reversed???

Any fanatics highest fear is leftist ideology. Not all leftist ideology admirers are communists/Marxists or violent Maoists, it's just an ideology which believes in equality to all beyond religion, race, gender and don't judge humans based on religion. But the present extreme right wing of India don't agree with all these, their equality is based on the religion they favor. To reach this propaganda they havd tried all means just like any fanatic organization does, from Photoshopping to tweaking facts to polarizing minds to now movies.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: hermione82



As I said left has demolished WB economy (except last few years when then chief minister tried to do some industrialization) however left regime social security was much much better than Mamata's regime. There was no problem with women security unless there was a political angle associated. Political violence was prevalent but not harping on everyday's life

I can not discredit Mamata for whatever she has done in rural and service sector (road, water etc). Its really good. But safety and security has collapsed badly and no industrialization. TMC is safe haven for goons. Left was same but there were some polished non criminal faces as well.



Agree with communists being not good for economy. That's the reason they are almost out from the political scenario of most of the world. However most of the western world still runs on leftist ideology else we wouldn't find people fighting for gender equality, LGBT rights etc. Communists can give you social justice but can't boost up the economy.

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