Why suicide is forbidden?

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Posted: 9 years ago
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Films,books,society everyone teaches us to believe that those who end their life are coward and not strong enough. We have numerous movies made where suicide is shown as an act of weakness. Also the recent case of mysterious death of an television actress called in for a debate on the same issue.
Why isnt suicide considered as a choice rather than an act of weakness? If one doesnt have a reason to live on why cant they end their life rather than living the torture? Its not about wanting medical help, but a choice.

I am curious to hear your opinion on this

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Posted: 9 years ago
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Because god lives within us.

Committing suicide means not only killing your body but also the almighty that resides inside.Its a crime.
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Originally posted by: Elvis12

Because god lives within us.

Committing suicide means not only killing your body but also the almighty that resides inside.Its a crime.


Whats actually the purpose of life? Just breathing until you die? I mean its the same for everyone, its not like we are on a mission that should be completed before we die. If one cant really live up to this shouldnt they be allowed to die anyhow?
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Interesting question! You know when these sort of questions come up, I always look at what hinduism says about it (since that's my religion and all). Idk I'm just fascinated about our vedas and upanishad's take on issues.
And this is basically what it says, quote taken from wiki, so could not be fully accurate.

"In Hinduism, suicide is spiritually unacceptable. Generally, committing suicide is considered a violation of the code of ahimsa (non-violence) and therefore equally sinful as murdering another. Some scriptures state that to die by suicide (and any type of violent death) results in becoming a ghost, wandering earth until the time one would have otherwise died, had one not committed suicide.

Hinduism accepts a man's right to end one's life through the non-violent practice of fasting to death, termed Prayopavesa. But Prayopavesa is strictly restricted to old age yogis who have no desire or ambition left, and no responsibilities remaining in this life. Another example is dying in a battle to save one's honor."


but, personally, I haven't ever really given it a thought, so I'm neutral on the issue.

Edit: Though, I did have one experience with a friend who wanted to commit suicide due to her family life (and it was pretty terrible, she had no parents and lived with foster parents and all). I was so scared out of my mind for her, especially when she would text me stuff like thank you for everything, or goodbye messages. I remember telling my mom about it because I was so scared and my mom just hugged me, btw this was in high school. And I remember feeling I don't ever want to feel this kind of terror again. She even tried committing suicide while we were in school once. Fortunately, she somehow got through that phase and joined the army. I don't keep in contact with her, but I'm assuming she is happy or atleast not in that suicide phase anymore. Basically, the point of my overlong story is someone committing suicide HURTS other people around you, too. I think if she had died, I would have been irrevocably changed, but I'm not condemning her, I just would feel that responsible for her death because I would feel I couldn't help her when she needed it the most. I would just recommend sharing with your family and friends if you are having suicide thoughts and tendencies! THEY WILL HELP YOU! Please, don't assume no one cares, people do and they want to know if you need help.
Edited by coolpixie - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
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The worst thing about suicide is that you are ending your life,but who knows if You had lived,after ten years your life could've been so great,you could've done so many good things,and so much happiness could be there.Its losing out on all the future could bes for the dark and depressing present.Life is so unpredicatable,we do'nt even know what will happen next, then why end your life without even knowing it fully.And also because when one commits suicdes,he or she is causing a permanent damage to those who loves that person,specially parents and family.It can't be that a person does'nt even have 1 person in his life who loves him, so why not live for that person.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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My point wasnt that they are depressed with their life or something. Its like that person doesnt believe in life. Even if they are happy, whats the actual purpose? Like they arent interested in living. Thats what Im talking about, they have no interest
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He Became Silent. His Face Went Through A Total Change - From The Egoist He Moved To A State Of Utter Humbleness. If This Too Is Going To Pass, It Is Not Yours. The Defeat Was Not Yours, The Victory Is Not Yours. You Are Just A Watcher. Everything Passes By. We Are Witnesses Of All This. We Are The Perceivers. Life Comes And Goes. Happiness Comes And Goes. Sorrow Comes And Goes.

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You Are Just A Witness Of Change. Experience It, Understand It, And Enjoy The Present Moment - This Too Shall Pass
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Looking at the oh so casual tone in which suicide is being spoken about. I'm relieved it's a crime. Otherwise don't know how many people would have thought it was 'Okay' to 'Just choose to end life' one fine day just like that, coz they aren't on any mission or aren't 'really interested'. 😕
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: awkardpyscho

My point wasnt that they are depressed with their life or something. Its like that person doesnt believe in life. Even if they are happy, whats the actual purpose? Like they arent interested in living. Thats what Im talking about, they have no interest


"even if they are happy" --- I actually feel like this presently, that what's the purpose of my life? I'm actually in a phase where I'm lost in all areas of my life. I have had on and off depression for past 4 years or so, and even I have thought vaguely or sometimes unconsciously where a random thought of suicide just popped in my mind. But, I don't think I have EVER gone beyond that because no matter what people say, committing suicide takes guts, which by the way I do not have. And I'm not in such deep depression that I don't care about anything around me, I would never do this to my family. I think I would break their hearts and change their lives forever if I did, and that is not the way to pay back my gratitude to my parents for raising me. Second, I think life is precious, no matter if it's mine or someone else's, think about it, there are so many animal lives, but out of all those billions of lives, god has given us or me this one precious human life, where I can do anything I want, become anything I want, so how can I just destroy my god given life like that without achieving anything, without being anything yet? I have yet to pay back my due to god, family and this society. Idk.. These are just my thoughts, certain people could think differently.
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Originally posted by: Kaapi

Looking at the oh so casual tone in which suicide is being spoken about. I'm relieved it's a crime. Otherwise don't know how many people would have thought it was 'Okay' to 'Just choose to end life' one fine day just like that, coz they aren't on any mission or aren't 'really interested'. 😕


I am just calling for a open discussion. And I dont think you really get what I am talking about.

Originally posted by: coolpixie


"even if they are happy" --- I actually feel like this presently, that what's the purpose of my life? I'm actually in a phase where I'm lost in all areas of my life. I have had on and off depression for past 4 years or so, and even I have thought vaguely or sometimes unconsciously where a random thought of suicide just popped in my mind. But, I don't think I have EVER gone beyond that because no matter what people say, committing suicide takes guts, which by the way I do not have. And I'm not in such deep depression that I don't care about anything around me, I would never do this to my family. I think I would break their hearts and change their lives forever if I did, and that is not the way to pay back my gratitude to my parents for raising me. Second, I think life is precious, no matter if it's mine or someone else's, think about it, there are so many animal lives, but out of all those billions of lives, god has given us or me this one precious human life, where I can do anything I want, become anything I want, so how can I just destroy my god given life like that without achieving anything, without being anything yet? I have yet pay back my due to god, family and this society. Idk.. These are just my thoughts, certain people could think differently.


I get your point. Rightly said! The family stops them for taking any step. But again whats the actual point, they are not really living it for themselves

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