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Posted: 9 years ago
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Obviously this loony bin is doing that
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Yes yes she absolutely is. And innocents are tricked into her plan. She is pretty damn vile. And I say that as someone who is a thorough & complete feminist- She is sullying the very movement & word. There I said it. Not going to say it again. Lol,
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Don't care for the controversy or what this circle is doing.
I am more interested in what she spoke about Feminism. 'Am not a feminist by design, I'm a feminist by chance. But I would love to understand what's it like to be a feminist. Do we have to fight for women's rights, or do we have to make women aware of their rights, or work on a girl child's education, or instil confidence and a sense of pride in women? I'm so consumed with my actress life that I don't have time for these things, but I would love to someday."-
If this is the quote of Kangana, then isn't she too shying away from proudly owning up to Feminism. You don't need to "do" anything to be a feminist. You have to believe in yourself and if you can focus on your belief in being in respecting yourself and in equality , that is all

I detest how these celebs have reduced Feminism to some charity event. It's not a movement where you need to take flags and take to streets. But changing your own outlook towards life.

You should be an "aware" feminist. Not chance- that just demeans the term no?

All the steps she mentioned is for women empowerment that doesn't make you a feminist but an activist. Feminist is more about way of thinking , personal thing.

Why does no celeb get this right? If the terms and quotes she threw here are what she believes in then that makes her Feminist , she doesn't need to do anything to understand the term.

What a joke everyone has made of feminism.
Edited by charminggenie - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
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^ Exactly Genie. It's more a thought process & a subtle way of lifestyle yet all these so-called "feminists" seem to believe that it is meant to be some sort of dramatic crusade. It absolutely is not.


It's in "vogue" to be a feminist & to go "gay" for someone. I detest it when people use such words because it is fetishising & objectifying to a crazy degree. UGH!

I also don't understand how some people equate education to feminism by default. I don't believe they go hand in hand at all, esp seeing our educational systems & the products it churns out everyday.



OT: KR is obviously playing it safe, I haven't seen the iv but it seems like it. I can understand the wish to know & understand things in-depth before taking a stand but I doubt practices like feminism are actually a "subject" to be studied. It's just a way of life... Unless I've got it all wrong & everyone else is correct.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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[quote]I am more interested in what she spoke about Feminism. 'Am not a feminist by design, I'm a feminist by chance. But I would love to understand what's it like to be a feminist. Do we have to fight for women's rights, or do we have to make women aware of their rights, or work on a girl child's education, or instil confidence and a sense of pride in women? I'm so consumed with my actress life that I don't have time for these things, but I would love to someday."- If this is the quote of Kangana, then isn't she too shying away from proudly owning up to Feminism. You don't need to "do" anything to be a feminist. You have to believe in yourself and if you can focus on your belief in being in respecting yourself and in equality , that is all[/quote]

^^Expressing yourself as a feminist, especially in India, gets you nothing but brickbats even amongst most women. Patriarchy is instilled so deep that even most women go with the male viewpoint on most things. There is huge desire to be liked and be seen as a "good" woman (aka approved by men).

The western world is much farther ahead but even Beyonce had to face a bunch of angry men whining in the media when she went on stage to sing and had "FEMINIST" written behind her in big letters.

Same thing that happens to people fighting against racism. There's a huge movement from bigots against a saying like "black lives matter" who want to hijack it to make it "all lives matter." Same reason there was so much crying about Beyonce at the Superbowl dressed like a Black Panther and how dare she make it about race. (Very reminiscent of this forum and the Kangana/Hrithik issue by men - how dare you make it about gender!!)

This is how the privileged ALWAYS react to the disadvantaged fighting for their rights. The biggest coup is to get people *from* the disadvantaged group to support them too so they can be the cool or good women or the 'model minority.'
Edited by anonymous39 - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: anonymous39

[quote]I am more interested in what she spoke about Feminism. 'Am not a feminist by design, I'm a feminist by chance. But I would love to understand what's it like to be a feminist. Do we have to fight for women's rights, or do we have to make women aware of their rights, or work on a girl child's education, or instil confidence and a sense of pride in women? I'm so consumed with my actress life that I don't have time for these things, but I would love to someday."- If this is the quote of Kangana, then isn't she too shying away from proudly owning up to Feminism. You don't need to "do" anything to be a feminist. You have to believe in yourself and if you can focus on your belief in being in respecting yourself and in equality , that is all[/quote]

^^Expressing yourself as a feminist, especially in India, gets you nothing but brickbats even amongst most women. Patriarchy is instilled so deep that even most women go with the male viewpoint on most things. There is huge desire to be liked and be seen as a "good" woman (aka approved by men).
True but then that contradicts what Kangy projects. Her whole media image is about the fearless girl who survived this industry and who doesn't need the big stars to sustain. She like one article mentioned "ran out of f**k. But she contradicts and is popular because she broke the mold of good girl. Isn;t why we like her? That she doesnt subscribe to the template?

The western world is much farther ahead but even Beyonce had to face a bunch of angry men whining in the media when she went on stage to sing and had "FEMINIST" written behind her in big letters.
Oh Beyonce is a really good case to study. Her beyhives as they call it., viciously attack online anyone who criticizes her music or has an opinion against her . If there were some trolls against her, she got far greater press and support for her stand. There is no movement or definition which has singular , unbiased support.

Same thing that happens to people fighting against racism. There's a huge movement from bigots against a saying like "black lives matter" who want to hijack it to make it "all lives matter." Same reason there was so much crying about Beyonce at the Superbowl dressed like a Black Panther and how dare she make it about race. (Very reminiscent of this forum and the Kangana/Hrithik issue by men - how are you make it about gender!!)
Again, Beyonce dropped Becky- a white girl slang. Actually, I would love to talk the show in detail and where she got it wrong too. We look at the backlash but what about every single major tabloid applauding her or the sns. She marketed the cause really well..even though, the skin lightening allegations surround herShe was privileged enough to steal the show and be the headliner even though Coldplay was the Star and main performer..hows that for owning the power?
Ignore the forum, check the 2 mainstream Journos, who will day-night speak about the court cases, on their show..violating every rule in the book...chose to not talk at all about her legal position.Why? Isn't the fact she is making news and applauded outside for her quotes make her a privileged person too

This is how the privileged ALWAYS react to the disadvantaged fighting for their rights. The biggest coup is to get people *from* the disadvantaged group to support them too so they can be the cool or good women or the 'model minority.'
Agree even though both Beyonce or Kangy are not the disadvantaged group here. Both have broken the boundaries and created a certain persona which are powerful Beyonce , if not the top, but certainly one of the high ranking performers. Her video drops are far more viewed and almost all the reviews are skewed towards her.
It is very important to get the "cool or good women" around..even though I hate this distinction and I find it pathetic to mention when we talk of feminism. How do you do that..certainly not by having a woman who has created a hype by being fearless and "bad" not own up feminism.
In this iv, it's like she is waiting for others to crown her the tag.


Kangy has a strong urban female base . She has the image and the position to own feminism with no f**ks to give. But that has nothing to do with the legal case. if tomorrow she is convicted will that make a less of a feminist ? Where will her feminism stand then. Which is why it's important to keep the narrative a bit away from feminism. At this point these quotes sound amazing coming from her and should inspire many girls out there..but then how much of it she abides and believes , is where we differ.

To me it's a well crafted image. Beyonce included here as well. But feminism is not a subject which needs Queens .
Edited by charminggenie - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Actually, this proves DP's #mychoice video and my argument for that. it might have been problematic but Kangy epitomes the message perfectly. Owning up her choices , but not the deeds she is accused of. Yet the freedom of choice is her right and feminism , the evaluation and public opinion of her choices is FOE.


For me it's not what she is saying that represents feminism , it's her smart media play and perception win that makes her a smart woman. Using an ideology , combining with her "fallen/bad"girl aura . She has won this battle , and this is why she deserves respect.
Edited by charminggenie - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Well, nobody is perfect. We can always say "why didn't she do this and that" but she obviously does what she's capable of and that may not be a lot. It's like she goes halfway so we complain why didn't she go the whole way? I don't know.. people do as much as they're comfortable with at the given time.

She's allowed to take credit for succeeding in a ruthless industry and for making something of herself when even her own parents were unhappy they gave birth to a daughter.

Same goes for Beyonce. She's not responsible for her annoying fans and her strides in certain ways, speaking up for black lives matters or representing herself as a feminist don't automatically mean she's perfect in another way. I hate to keep saying this but feminism does not require moral purity or a lack of hypocrisy because in that case, nobody can stand up for anything.

Why would anything happening to Kangana be a blot on feminism? Why are bad men not a blot on men as a whole? Women are the first ones shouting "not all men" when a big rape case happens. Why is so much more expected when a woman is not perfect? How is her imperfectness something that takes away from women having the right to equality?

First of all, there is no case against Kangana. HR fans have spread so much PR that it's not surprising people would think so. A legal notice means absolutely nothing. He would actually have to sue and file a defamation suit which he's never going to do. He filed an FIR against an imposter, not against Kangana. They want Kangana to talk to the police as a witness, not as a defendant. It's very very different.

And regardless of whether or not Kangana ever gets convicted for something else, how does that diminish feminism? Did Salman and Sanjay and Shiney going to jail for big crimes diminish men in any way? What does that have to do with women getting equality?

This whole concept of women needing to be morally unimpeachable in order to get equality has to be completely removed. This is nothing but a pit created exactly for the reason that every woman would fail a test that hard, as would every man.

ETA: never mind, you edited your post about Kangana possibly getting convicted and so feminism needs to be kept away from her case


Edited by anonymous39 - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Yes she is misusing it.She is actually ruining it for those genuine girls who are actually treated unfairly in bollywood and want to take a stand. Feminism does'nt mean encouraging girls to stalk people and harass a man in any way.She actually is not answering anything regarded to the main issue.No questions like did you stalk hrithik did u lie about that silly ex things, and none of her answers in yes or no.All she speaks is I am this I am that I am proud of this and proud of that. Its like asking someone did you steal my mobile and that person goes I have had a hard family life I've endured a lot, I am a winner in all senses,I am proud of everything I do.You will keep on pulling your hairs that come on just tell me yes or no did you steal it and she will be like I am a real achiever ,nothing can change itWhy not face the real issue and answer it. Being a stern feminist I am so angry at her for misusing feminism and insulting it.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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She clearly told in the beginning of one of the interviews that she won't say much about her personal view points regarding the Ongoing controversy as its a court case . Her interview i felt was more or less a reaction for adhyayan's accusations and name calling which is going on. Why should She speak any statements relevant to case?

Moreover , she clearly told she is feminist by chance. It's the interviewers or journos who are using this tag a little too much and if it works in her favour to have a good image make over why not ? Everyone use one or the other strategies .




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