Trupti Desai Seeks SRK, Salmans Support Ahead of Haji Ali Protest

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bigul

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Posted: 9 years ago

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srk aur salman ko apni movies flop karwani hai kya? koi kuch nahin bolega.😆

oh its such a conflicted thing. i am not exactly against it and neither i am totally supporting trupti's way.

i don't support the fact that she is forcefully trying to change the age old tradition in which many people believe in(its a part of their life). why meddle with their emotions this way. she could have tried to empower these communities to make them change their mind. the tradition is not harming any one. we could take time to educate them and help them take their own decision.

simply and logically saying now she will enter dargah. hindu activists will want for sc to allow muslim women to the mosques. court will have to lift the ban and terrorist organisation will see this as an insult to their sacred laws. even i am scared for hindu terrorists. all this will result in severe riots and put lives at stake.

its completely sane and logical for women to demand the right of worship. but if you want to change the society then fight for the issue in a proper way like a real activist, try to learn the facts, understand their emotions, no need to do such drama inside the religious places.

there is a quote

"nothing is more dreaded than the national government meddling with religion"

ps- you want equality and are against oppression. then remember as long as the rational feel justified in mocking rather than understanding the irrational oppression will continue.

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cpatel90

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Posted: 9 years ago

#12

Shani Shingnapur was whole another matter as it was a Hindu temple, it won't be possible for Trupti to get the similar result for Haji Ali.

Also media won't stand by her as Islam is involved in it and they can't utter a word against it or they would be...

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blue-ice.

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Posted: 9 years ago

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are women not allowed in the Haji Ali Dargah?

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RamSiyaRam

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Posted: 9 years ago

#14

Faith and belief should be held above gender discrimination. As much as a man has right to pray so does a woman. Did GOD not create woman too? then why this prejudice?

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-Vaishvi-

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Posted: 9 years ago

#15

Why should the Khans state their stand on this topic?

I hope none of them say anything or even if they do, they take a neutral stand.

Each of the Khans have a huge fan following and this is a very sensitive topic which could have huge repercussions in the society.

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SeeYa

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Posted: 9 years ago

#16

We are going to Chief Minister's residence from here: Trupti Desai after being denied entry into Haji Ali Dargah https://t.co/HUcUuAQDxL

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222149

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Posted: 9 years ago

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Originally posted by: blue-ice
are women not allowed in the Haji Ali Dargah?

they are allowed-men and women have separate entrances and separate halls to pray.

women are restricted to enter a particular area inside the dargah

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-Vaishvi-

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Posted: 9 years ago

#18

Originally posted by: MiniRulz

they are allowed-men and women have separate entrances and separate halls to pray.

Ok, and what does this lady want?

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SeeYa

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Posted: 9 years ago

#19

Originally posted by: blue-ice
are women not allowed in the Haji Ali Dargah?

Mohammed. The prohibition is in apparently in place to save women from harassment and from being teased by miscreants. Mohammed Ashfaq, a cleric at Govandi's mosque, said that women were not allowed at places where many men are present and activities like Qawwali are held because it leads to harassment. "When it comes to visiting the graveyard or mazhar, women are not allowed there. (It's) not because they are deprived of praying there, but to save them from harassment and teasing."

Ashfaq said that there was no partiality involved in not allowing women to do certain things and that Islam accorded women dignity. "We keep our important and more valuable things very safe and carefully. Women are more valuable and possess more dignity in Islam (and) that is why Islam has certain norms to save them," he added.

"People also give the example of Mecca, where men and women both pray in congregation but they don't realise that Makkah Mukarramah is the place where people don't even think of any sin. But other places cannot be like Meccah mosque," Ashfaq said.

According to the PIL filed by Bharatiya Muslim Mahila Andolan in the Bombay High Court, entry to Haji Ali's dargah had been open to women till June 2012 after which it was restricted. Ashfaq says that the dargah came into existence in 1947. He said that prior to this there was no dargah. According to him, there is a minor difference between the dargah and the grave. The dargah is a concrete or solid grave while the actual grave is made of soil. "This is not sudden prohibition, but it was not implemented. It is something like a wrong thing happening (because) there was no one to stop it," added Ashfaq.

Shafique Mohammed, a cleric of the Ahle Hadith sect and a researcher of Islam at Islamic Information Centre in Kurla, said that there was no concept of mazhar and dargah in Islam and that it was baseless to fight against the prohibition of women from entering into Haji Ali dargah or any other mazhar. "When it comes to equality, Islam talks about justice, not equality. Justice for men and women could be different. In Islam, women have more dignity," said Shafique, adding, "Women are allowed to pray in mosque if there is a separate place available for them."

Imam Haji Akhtar Mehmood of the Kinara Masjid at Haji Ali said that the mazhar concept is very old. "There was a time when women were allowed to pray inside mosques, but years ago, a companion of Mohammed, named Umar Farooque, asked all women to pray namaz at home instead of the mosque because there was a tendency among men and women to start misbehaving (which is) against Islamic way," said Haji Akhtar.

He further said that the same thing happened at Haji Ali. "Every type of women wearing non-islamic dress can lead to harassment and teasing of women. So the prohibition is fine. Women are allowed to enter into the dargah but they are not in the mazhar," he added.

Members of the Haji Ali Trust refused to comment on the matter.