Trupti Desai Seeks SRK, Salmans Support Ahead of Haji Ali Protest

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Posted: 9 years ago

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Originally posted by: Heisenberg4

This guy doesn't really paint a good picture of Muslim men. 😆 The excuse for prohibiting women from the dargah on grounds of harassment is a bit like saying women shouldn't work because they'll be harassed. It's not the real reason, it's to create this impression that "oh look, we care so much about the woman", if this is what he believes then what he's essentially saying is that Muslim men can't control their sexual urges, not even in sacred places. The real reason however is the traditional view that women are subordinate to men.

Though I completely agree with what you are saying this issue is beyond religion. It is just a result of some stupid traditions, beliefs, customs and local culture. This is more about patriachy and dominance than just enforcing a religious belief. This nuisance is quite prevailent in Indian society be it with Muslims or with Hindus in certain temples and also with Christians and Sikhs. Women are also not allowed into certain gurudwaras if they are impure. Even during nagar kirtan and vaisakhi festival they are suppose to cover up their hair even when they stand on public property. They are also expected to have a certain dressing that covers their hair when they are in gurudwara. In some christian graveyards it is the same issue with women with improper dressing or those who are menstruating.

Long story short, this is patriachy at its best.

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Posted: 9 years ago

#32

Why should Khans have opinions on everything? They are not religious scholars or humanity professors. If they want, they will state voluntarily. Why should one drag them?

Let her ask all JNU guys who burnt Manusmriti and all those intellectuals who returned their award for intolerant India. Barkha is a must. (She was supposed to be hosting "Women in Islam" conference and there she speaks about how women are not allowed in some Hindu temples).

Right now Haji Ali. Next it might be Jama Masjid, Delhi. I have read, women cannot enter minaret on their own (without men) and also they are not allowed to enter the mosque after certain time (prayer). She should break that rule too.

After she breaks all the rules, what will she do? Will she ever go and pray there? No.

So why did she do it? Is it really out of devotion or publicity gimmick? (I might be taking a controversial stand. So what? Everyone has the right to opine).

Either you have faith or you don't. If you have faith, you will follow the cultural practices. (They were all made at some era with certain believes. Like the practice in Jama Masjid. It might have started with a belief, women might not be safe in evening. Some believes might not hold relevance in today's era. Like Ayyappa was born from two male Gods. But all have their own charm, inspite of their irrationality).

If you don't have faith, you don't go there anyway.

Why mix up worship (and cultural practices) with human right? On festive day, my mother put Rangoli in front of the house. My father did pooja. I did not bother, why not the other way. Now, no Rangoli or Puja in the house. A liberated family? No. We are one of those people who are just immersed in mechanical world, with no room for such small charms.

Genuine problems of Hindu or Muslim women are different. Islamic laws for divorced Muslim women need change. Such things won't get solved by this token demonstration.