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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: Fiery.Phoenix.


So basically those who don't share your views, they are emotionally manipulated by the PR put on act by the kid ? Not because some of us are willing to be open to the idea of what if ? OK.

In that case, emotional manipulation it is. But I shall wait for the court to pass the judgement before letting assumptions ride my scale of judgement.



I think if one has reached the decision that he is an innocent misunderstood grieving boyfriend after reading or watching his interviews and his demeanor in front of the media during Hero promotions then I do believe his PR moves have succeeded. Yes of course there is emotional manipulations involved. We all have feelings and we all go through second hand heartbreak for celebs based on how other side convinces us. That's what PR reps count on.


This does not mean that he is involved in Jiah's death or is directly responsible for it. I'm not claiming him guilty, or innocent at this point, of the charges against him. And if people always felt he was innocent from day one then that's different. My point was he's not just answering these questions because he's being asked. He's following a very strategic PR plan here. Like I said above, there is no way that he truly believes that he cannot escape it if he's wrong, especially given who his father is. At this point I cannot be convinced that that wasn't a blatant and manipulative PR line. He's trying to come across as an unfortunate victim of circumstance.


For me the issue here isn't just Jiah's death. It's also the kind of human being he was to her for the duration of their relationship, which again I feel like he's trying to change that image or perception of himself during this promotion.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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It sounded like Reshma PR

"Dekho main kabhi saamne se nahi bolunga ki maine galti nahi ki hai, ki maine galti ki hai ya jo bhi hai!" 🤣

"If I'm wrong, nothing can save me. Butif I'm right or if I'm not wrong, then nothing can destroy me," 🤣

Salman ke line kyu bol rahe ho 😆

He did showed his talent on JDJ, he couldnt even copy 1 dance step properly, looked like a junk car without tire and ready for f1 race 😆
Edited by 9tanki - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
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jiah deserved to get a dream debut..not this worthless f**k
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Posted: 10 years ago
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also, criminals of same feather, flock together
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Posted: 10 years ago
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More than Sooraj I hate his father 🤢 the kind of history he had with women.

Guys do you think Aamir will promote this movie ? Because he always promote Salman's movies and this time he's producing it. Because he was indirectly connected with Jiah's family and he was even at her funeral and saw him crying.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: IAmLuvBolly




I think if one has reached the decision that he is an innocent misunderstood grieving boyfriend after reading or watching his interviews and his demeanor in front of the media during Hero promotions then I do believe his PR moves have succeeded. Yes of course there is emotional manipulations involved. We all have feelings and we all go through second hand heartbreak for celebs based on how other side convinces us. That's what PR reps count on.


This does not mean that he is involved in Jiah's death or is directly responsible for it. I'm not claiming him guilty, or innocent at this point, of the charges against him. And if people always felt he was innocent from day one then that's different. My point was he's not just answering these questions because he's being asked. He's following a very strategic PR plan here. Like I said above, there is no way that he truly believes that he cannot escape it if he's wrong, especially given who his father is. At this point I cannot be convinced that that wasn't a blatant and manipulative PR line. He's trying to come across as an unfortunate victim of circumstance.


For me the issue here isn't just Jiah's death. It's also the kind of human being he was to her for the duration of their relationship, which again I feel like he's trying to change that image or perception of himself during this promotion.


Hmmm, I can say the same thing about those who are already branding him as the criminal to be manipulated by their emotions towards Salman. Of course PR/media are our only window. We all discuss and take sides based on what we read and hear plus our own moral compass/perception. Some people may believe in giving second chances, some don't. Some believe in karma while some in law based punishment while some may wait for something concrete like court decision before tagging someone as guilty and so on and so forth. Sure a section of audience may be gullible enough or not as well informed to fall such PR related stunts, but there is also a section of audience who ain't as gullible but still willing to give a benefit of doubt.


As for the bolded bit, again debatable and simply your POV against others. And as for him being a douche, again your POV based on what is fed to us through media. Others can definitely have a different POV after evaluating their own perception.

Anyhoo, the point I was making is that if a group of people are emotionally manipulated, I would say so are others, difference would be the set of emotions in action. And nor do I think one group is morally superior to the other cuz neither group knows the truth except peeking through a tiny media led window.
Edited by Fiery.Phoenix. - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
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I felt sorry for him here:
http://www.india-forums.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=4424301&PID=124800358&#p124800358

I am not sure if I'll ever feel sorry for him again. If he really cares about Jiah's memory and her family, he can say: Out of respect for the memory of Jiah and out of respect for her family I wish to remain silent. That would be considerate, thoughtful and sensible.

This guy is passing dialogues like
"If I'm wrong, nothing can save me. But if I'm right or if I'm not wrong, then nothing can destroy me." he asserted.

It's a carefully crafted sentence and he is implying he is innocent. That sentence has everything to do with himself. He is passing such dialogues when the investigation is still going on. We are supposed to believe it has absolutely nothing to do with "his image"? We're being judgemental thinking disgusting thought (he is doing it for publicity)?

Actions speak louder than words. He is all Jiah, Jiah, Jiah, everything he faced, if he is wrong, or right.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: kareena05

More than Sooraj I hate his father 🤢 the kind of history he had with women.

Guys do you think Aamir will promote this movie ? Because he always promote Salman's movies and this time he's producing it. Because he was indirectly connected with Jiah's family and he was even at her funeral and saw him crying.



I saw it in the news, they said Aamir Khan and Jiah were half siblings
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Fiery.Phoenix, sure absolutely. Emotional manipulation happens to all of us one way or another. It is possible that some feel this negatively about Sooraj based on their personal feelings about Salman, but again, people can also be supporting him and giving him the benefit of the doubt due to his Salman connection. All I can say for myself is that my feelings towards Salman don't play a part here. But my own opinions of what kind of a person Sooraj is is definitely at play here. My own personal belief that there is never ever an excuse for physical, emotional and mental abuse definitely plays a part here.

As for everything else, again you are absolutely correct, my opinions are debatable. But for me, and I don't mean this as a disrespect towards others but more as a way to express how strongly I feel about this, I cannot be convinced that this kid is not playing the PR game to the hilt.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: IAmLuvBolly

Fiery.Phoenix, sure absolutely. Emotional manipulation happens to all of us one way or another. It is possible that some feel this negatively about Sooraj based on their personal feelings about Salman, but again, people can also be supporting him and giving him the benefit of the doubt due to his Salman connection. All I can say for myself is that my feelings towards Salman don't play a part here. But my own opinions of what kind of a person Sooraj is is definitely at play here. My own personal belief that there is never ever an excuse for physical, emotional and mental abuse definitely plays a part here.

As for everything else, again you are absolutely correct, my opinions are debatable. But for me, and I don't mean this as a disrespect towards others but more as a way to express how strongly I feel about this, I cannot be convinced that this kid is not playing the PR game to the hilt.


Fair enough. End of the day, only we know why we may be siding one end of the shore over other. It's the moral superiority which keeps resonating from thread to thread that gets irritating. Especially cuz things are seen way tooo black and white at times that there isn't any space for gray to wiggle around. And hypocrisy is even more evident when the same set of people run the marathon to defend their own Mr or Ms Gray while looking down on others... 😆

Anyways. I have an utter disgust for his dad going by all that I have heard. As for him, I do think he gives off douche-y vibes, but I am still on the fence. Until and unless I am convinced of my own assumptions, I would continue stranding the fence 😆
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