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Posted: 10 years ago
One of my friend Maninder Pal Singh.. was new in NZ, and after 9-11, he went thru some abuses, Kiwis were calling him taliban and terrorists.. well thats what he told me.
He took off his turban, had a hair cut and clean shaved, and he was so happy.

U know, some big events can actually change ppl.
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Posted: 10 years ago
@atominis
I believe you talking about what happened in the aftermath, I am talking about the day of Operation Blue Star itself. It wasn't just he Golden Temple attacked it was 40 other gurdwaras in punjab. If the mission is to seek out militants than why the attack on innocent pilgrims? If they wanted to kill/arrest Bhindrawale than why on Gurpurab when there were many innocents present there? They could have chosen any other day?

@allblacks
I respect everyones views here but basing your opinion based on hearsay? Hearsay is not the most reliable source? And unfortunately, there are very few punjabi people that are very well informed about this issue. We had many people here, you claimed that they had no idea about this massacre before they came to this post. Also I believe were deviating from the issue at hand like Star Girl mentioned. What actually occurred during operation blue star can be debated in the debate mansion.

The topic here at hand was Amitabh instigated riots against Sikhs after Indira Gandhi's murder. Now how was it in National interest to punish an entire community for the crime of two people? Since when did it become OK to generalize even if Sikhs were at fault?

@atominis I understand how you feel. That is the harsh reality of the world people get away for the most heinous things. And we are in many ways powerless. I have actually accepted that if nothing was done in 30 years nothing will be done now. I guess what we can do is work on informing other people in are community about as many are ignorant and perhaps even try to educate others.
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Posted: 10 years ago
HAHAHA

The things for which you need Google are on my tips because of experience.

Wiki for this?

What a joke
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Posted: 10 years ago
Abt targetting a community in BW movies for laugh... none is spared.
Southies r targetted more than any community.. for their aayyyo rama... type of Hindi. Loogi and tika. Gujjus r targeted as money making langoors.. all the time. Kjo actully put Gujjus so down against punjabis in KHNH.. but we have a sense of humour.. the best one when we laugh at ourselves.

Thoda has bhi liya karo.. business karna hai to bolo.. serious.
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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: AllBlacks1

"Sikh genocide" redirects here. For the genocide of 1762, see Sikh holocaust of 1762. For the genocide of 1746, see Sikh holocaust of 1746.
1984 anti-Sikh riots
Sikh man being surrounded and beaten
A Sikh man being surrounded and beaten by a mob
Date31 October 1984 ' 3 November 1984
TargetSikhs
Deathsabout 2800. [1]

The 1984 anti-Sikh riots or the 1984 Sikh Massacre or the 1984 genocide of Sikhs were a series ofpogroms[2][3][4][5][6] directed against Sikhs in India, by anti-Sikh mobs, most notably by members of the Congress party, in response to the assassination of Indira Gandhi by her Sikh bodyguards. There were about 2800 deaths all over India, including 2100 in Delhi.[7] [4] The Central Bureau of Investigation, the main Indian investigating agency, is of the opinion that the acts of violence were organized with the support from the then Delhi police and some central government officials.[8] Rajiv Gandhi was sworn in as Prime Minister after his mother's death and, when asked about the riots, said "when a big tree falls, the earth shakes".[9]

During the Indian Emergency imposed by Indira Gandhi in the 1975-1977, thousands of Sikhs campaigning forautonomous government were imprisoned.[citation needed] The sporadic violence continued as a result of an armed Sikh separatist group which was designated as a terrorist entity by the Indian government. In June 1984, during Operation Blue Star, Indira Gandhi ordered the Indian Army to attack the Golden Temple and eliminate any insurgents, as it had been occupied by Sikh separatists who were stockpiling weapons. Later operations by Indian paramilitary forces were initiated to clear the separatists from the countryside of Punjab state.[10]

The violence in Delhi was triggered by the assassination of Indira Gandhi, India's prime minister, on 31 October 1984, by two of her Sikh bodyguards in response to her actions authorising the military operation. The Indian government reported 2,700 deaths in the ensuing chaos. In the aftermath of the riots, the Indian government reported 20,000 had fled the city, however the People's Union for Civil Liberties reported "at least" 1,000displaced persons.[11] The most affected regions were the Sikh neighbourhoods in Delhi. Human rights organisations and newspapers across India believe the massacre was organised.[4][8][12] The collusion of political officials in the massacres and the Judiciary's failure to penalise the killers alienated normal Sikhs and increased support for the Khalistan movement.[13] The Akal Takht, the governing religious body of Sikhism, considers the killings to be a genocide.[14]


again we are deviating from the topic at hand but how reliable is wikipedia? We all know that?
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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: AllBlacks1

One of my friend Maninder Pal Singh.. was new in NZ, and after 9-11, he went thru some abuses, Kiwis were calling him taliban and terrorists.. well thats what he told me.

He took off his turban, had a hair cut and clean shaved, and he was so happy.

U know, some big events can actually change ppl.



I know BJP types endore this.

Liquidating individual identity.

BUT MANY ARE THERE WHO DO NOT COMPROMISE ON THEIR IDENTITY NO MATTER WHAT.
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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: atominis

HAHAHA

The things for which you need Google are on my tips because of experience.

Wiki for this?

What a joke


😆 Have a laugh then.

Show me where did Amitabh said khoon ka badla khoon on nationa tv.

I still have 1% respect for AB, I want to lose that. 😆
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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: atominis



I know BJP types endore this.

Liquidating individual identity.

BUT MANY ARE THERE WHO DO NOT COMPROMISE ON THEIR IDENTITY NO MATTER WHAT.


Yes, and many who actually do... it goes both ways.
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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: AllBlacks1

Abt targetting a community in BW movies for laugh... none is spared.

Southies r targetted more than any community.. for their aayyyo rama... type of Hindi. Loogi and tika. Gujjus r targeted as money making langoors.. all the time. Kjo actully put Gujjus so down against punjabis in KHNH.. but we have a sense of humour.. the best one when we laugh at ourselves.

Thoda has bhi liya karo.. business karna hai to bolo.. serious.


In khnh
Sikhs were degraded a lot too. How evil was the Sikh grandmother who couldn't accept her granddaughter or DIL because she was Christian? Not only that but the son had an affair who was also a Sikh. They made Sikhs look so racist. I know all are targeted but not as often as Sikhs. Further moth how often do you see a sikh as a main character? Almost never!
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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: AllBlacks1


😆 Have a laugh then.

Show me where did Amitabh said khoon ka badla khoon on nationa tv.

I still have 1% respect for AB, I want to lose that. 😆


He is quoted in books and has a case pending against him as Arnab mentioned. A lot more reliable than the wikipedia.

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