Sikh body files complaint against Amitabh Bachchan in Australia - Page 2

Originally posted by: atominis

Ranbirs

Even Sikhs know he was using Golden Temple as headquarters.

Watching Harmander Sahib attacked?

Hello! The attack happened due to him! They targeted him. Not like attacking the shrine was State agenda.

I brought in Khalistan because the group that filed this charge is a Khalistani group. And you said you do not identify yourself as Indian which is exactly the language Khalistanis use.

Originally posted by: ranbirs

@atominis

You can continue to believe what you want mate (: All I know is Indira Gandhi issued orders, commanding her military force to invade the holiest place for my people, while innocent, unsuspecting worshippers were inside. Holy scriptures were destroyed, the gurudwara and the sarovar was defaced, there was ruthless slaughter of thousands of innocent worshippers. The media was put on complete black-out so the Sikh civilians death toll was downplayed, under-reported.

As for the Khalistan hoopla, I'm just going to quote this here, maybe have a read yeah:

Indian Hindu leaders at the time (Nehru, Gandhi, Patel) promised the Sikhs the same glow of freedom and didn't see any harm if a region in Northern India was awarded to them if they joined India but such promises never materialized and thus began the betrayal.

For years the Sikhs waged peaceful protests to make Punjabi a Punjabi language state, just like all other 17 Indian states were based on linguistic identities. In this process, they further took away Punjabi land and carved the state of Haryana out of it and gave other areas to Himachael Pardesh and some to Rajasthan on the pretext that Punjabi language is not being spoken in these areas.

The Sikhs then were hopeful that they would be treated with dignity. But what actually followed was discrimination against the Sikhs in every sphere of activity other than armed forces where they were used as cannon fodder in India's several wars against Pakistan, China, and other foreign assignments. New Delhi plundered the resources (food, water and electricity) of the State of Punjab for it's own use. It never encouraged any heavy industry in the state or nor allowed any infrastructure to be improved at the government's expense, while the rest of the country marched ahead.

When they sought justice through democratic means, a brutal reign of terror was let loose on them. Hindi was forced on Punjabis and during the last census the Punjabi Hindus declared their official mother tongue to be Hindi and not Punjabi in the state of Punjab. Efforts continued by many right wing Hindu organizations such RSS to declare Sikhs to be part of Hindus, a moot issue being deliberately revived once again lately.

Since 1984, Punjab police has been killing any Sikh supporting the Sikh cause. Rape was used as a tool to terrorize the population; killings, extortion and arrest without trial has been the order of the day since then. The 1984 pogrom against the Sikhs began with the slaying of thousands of young Sikhs in fake encounters that was justified under the pretext for checking the menace of alleged terrorism. Punjab has been a police state since then. It's indeed a black mark on India's secular image that few uttered a word against this continued violation of human rights of the Sikhs. An estimated 50,000 Sikhs are still rotting in the hellholes of India.

So yeah, EXCUSE ME, if we wanted back then, and now, a Khalistan. Jeez. You think it's radical and extreme to want justice, to get what we deserve and were PROMISED? Go ahead 🥱

Lastly, I don't give a f**k if the 'language' I use sounds similar to whatever, IN YOUR OPINION, I'm clearly saying I don't identify as an Indian, that's literally it. Aight gotta go now, keep hoopla-ing about whatever.

Originally posted by: atominis

@ranbirs

That was State reaction to Bhindranwale's activities. Bluestar was a mistake on Indira's part.

But was it right on Bhindranwale's part to use Golden Temple as hideout?

All Sikhs do not endorse his acts.

I personally consider it a colossal blunder by both sides.

Bluestar was a reaction to anti State acts of Bhindranwale and his extremist group.

Anyway SIT on 1984 is on now.

Khalistanis are not innocent either. Rather other Sikhs had to pay the price for the acts of few.

Khalistanis hand in glove with Pakistani separatist groups says a lot about their intentions.

I am all for justice for riot victims. But Khalistan? Nope.

Originally posted by: ranbirs

@atominis

You can continue to believe what you want mate (: All I know is Indira Gandhi issued orders, commanding her military force to invade the holiest place for my people, while innocent, unsuspecting worshippers were inside. Holy scriptures were destroyed, the gurudwara and the sarovar was defaced, there was ruthless slaughter of thousands of innocent worshippers. The media was put on complete black-out so the Sikh civilians death toll was downplayed, under-reported.

As for the Khalistan hoopla, I'm just going to quote this here, maybe have a read yeah:

Indian Hindu leaders at the time (Nehru, Gandhi, Patel) promised the Sikhs the same glow of freedom and didn't see any harm if a region in Northern India was awarded to them if they joined India but such promises never materialized and thus began the betrayal.

For years the Sikhs waged peaceful protests to make Punjabi a Punjabi language state, just like all other 17 Indian states were based on linguistic identities. In this process, they further took away Punjabi land and carved the state of Haryana out of it and gave other areas to Himachael Pardesh and some to Rajasthan on the pretext that Punjabi language is not being spoken in these areas.

The Sikhs then were hopeful that they would be treated with dignity. But what actually followed was discrimination against the Sikhs in every sphere of activity other than armed forces where they were used as cannon fodder in India's several wars against Pakistan, China, and other foreign assignments. New Delhi plundered the resources (food, water and electricity) of the State of Punjab for it's own use. It never encouraged any heavy industry in the state or nor allowed any infrastructure to be improved at the government's expense, while the rest of the country marched ahead.

When they sought justice through democratic means, a brutal reign of terror was let loose on them. Hindi was forced on Punjabis and during the last census the Punjabi Hindus declared their official mother tongue to be Hindi and not Punjabi in the state of Punjab. Efforts continued by many right wing Hindu organizations such RSS to declare Sikhs to be part of Hindus, a moot issue being deliberately revived once again lately.

Since 1984, Punjab police has been killing any Sikh supporting the Sikh cause. Rape was used as a tool to terrorize the population; killings, extortion and arrest without trial has been the order of the day since then. The 1984 pogrom against the Sikhs began with the slaying of thousands of young Sikhs in fake encounters that was justified under the pretext for checking the menace of alleged terrorism. Punjab has been a police state since then. It's indeed a black mark on India's secular image that few uttered a word against this continued violation of human rights of the Sikhs. An estimated 50,000 Sikhs are still rotting in the hellholes of India.

So yeah, EXCUSE ME, if we wanted back then, and now, a Khalistan. Jeez. You think it's radical and extreme to want justice, to get what we deserve and were PROMISED? Go ahead 🥱

Lastly, I don't give a f**k if the 'language' I use sounds similar to whatever, IN YOUR OPINION, I'm clearly saying I don't identify as an Indian, that's literally it. Aight gotta go now, keep hoopla-ing about whatever.

Originally posted by: Achava11

Spot on!!! Completely agree!!