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cougarTown

@cougarTown

Sparkler

+ 6

Posted: 11 years ago

#21

Originally posted by: blue-ice
Some people here prefer to bury their heads in the sand and ignore whatis happening around them...so be it...😉
The fact is that FACTS cant be changed...and BOI changes numbers as per their sweet will ...The latest fudging was done when HNY's figures were reduced by 10%...everyone can guess why😆

Just chanting BOI is God doesn't make it one...it is as reliable or unreliable as any other website.

Just curios. What is reliable then? Can't even trust producer's own figures that way..their is no proof they aren't lying

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blue-ice.

@blue-ice.

Achiever

+ 4

Posted: 11 years ago

#22

Originally posted by: cougarTown

Just curios. What is reliable then? Can't even trust producer's own figures that way..their is no proof they aren't lying

There is no proof of what is reliable...i believe Taran/BH...but i dont accuse anyone based on them so i dont have to prove their credibility to anyone...

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SH7_Sunny

@SH7_Sunny

Elite

+ 4

Posted: 11 years ago

#23

Originally posted by: Arsal-AK
Some people here...
Salman being the top actor is their opinion. Notice the word, opinion.

The BO figures are a fact. They report it as they get it. They dont have the option to make their opinions about the figures and then report the figures. If a film does 200 then it is 200, like it or hate it.

Its like cricinfo saying Warner is the player of the year while de Villiers scored the most runs and better quality wise too. Doesnt render their entire site and stats record useless.

The fact is that their is around 2 cr differece b/w all sources BOI included for PK figures. Shows who is right and wrong. Data from rentrak matches too. So much for no fudging and false reporting by BOI...

Nicely said Arsal 👍🏼

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adventurousman

@adventurousman

Dazzler

+ 3

Posted: 11 years ago

#24

Originally posted by: Arsal-AK
Some people here...
Salman being the top actor is their opinion. Notice the word, opinion.

The BO figures are a fact. They report it as they get it. They dont have the option to make their opinions about the figures and then report the figures. If a film does 200 then it is 200, like it or hate it.

Its like cricinfo saying Warner is the player of the year while de Villiers scored the most runs and better quality wise too. Doesnt render their entire site and stats record useless.

The fact is that their is around 2 cr differece b/w all sources BOI included for PK figures. Shows who is right and wrong. Data from rentrak matches too. So much for no fudging and false reporting by BOI...

its useless and actually laughable now. They only believe in their god TA, everyone else is a liar and a cheat. See how much time is spend dissing BOI, its like they are obsessed with it and want to prove that they are rite, yeah you are rite now let it go and move on 😆

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Karenina

@Karenina

Inactive

Posted: 11 years ago

#25

You got to trust some source and a source that archives its records and could release all of what they have, when and if needed, is better than a trade analyst who borrows figures off the producers.

As I've been saying, BOI isn't the Mecca of Indian box-office, but it sure as hell is somewhere in Saudi. Taran's still in Afghanistan or somewhere.

Don't agree with Dabbang/Ghajini being downgraded to BB (from ATBB), but verdicts are BOI's system - figures are closer to facts, which is why I trust figures more than verdicts. If a movie is Super Hit acc. to BOI and BB acc. to Taran, it means the movie has done remarkably well. If a movie Above Average acc. to Taran and Average acc. to BOI, it'd mean the movie is in the green, but hasn't really set the cash registers ringing.

Salman being the #1 star of the year is BOI's analysis. It's not a fact. Fact is that Kick did BB and PK did ATBB business. You may disagree with their analysis.

Also, they got the Star of the Year (Female), Producer, Director, and Distributor spot on - so why so much hungama when they declared Salman as the #1 star of 2014?

- Salman since 2010 = 8 releases - 1 ATBB/BB - 5 BBs - 1 Semi Hit - 1 Average

- Aamir since 2008 = 6 releases - 4 ATBBs - 1 Semi Hit - 1 Average

Aamir's highs are higher but Salman's record is much more impressive because of the frequency of his movies and the type of filmmakers he works with.

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blUeNoSed

@blUeNoSed

Inactive

Posted: 11 years ago

#26

Except queen and haider, everything pretty much sucks.

Quality is cinema is inversely proportional to boxoffice!

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blue-ice.

@blue-ice.

Achiever

+ 4

Posted: 11 years ago

#27

Originally posted by: Kareenafanatic
You got to trust some source and a source that archives its records and could release all of what they have, when and if needed, is better than a trade analyst who borrows figures off the producers.

As I've been saying, BOI isn't the Mecca of Indian box-office, but it sure as hell is somewhere in Saudi. Taran's still in Afghanistan or somewhere.

Don't agree with Dabbang/Ghajini being downgraded to BB (from ATBB), but verdicts are BOI's system - figures are closer to facts, which is why I trust figures more than verdicts. If a movie is Super Hit acc. to BOI and BB acc. to Taran, it means the movie has done remarkably well. If a movie Above Average acc. to Taran and Average acc. to BOI, it'd mean the movie is in the green, but hasn't really set the cash registers ringing.

Salman being the #1 star of the year is BOI's analysis. It's not a fact. Fact is that Kick did BB and PK did ATBB business. You may disagree with their analysis.

Also, they got the Star of the Year (Female), Producer, Director, and Distributor spot on - so why so much hungama when they declared Salman as the #1 star of 2014?

- Salman since 2010 = 8 releases - 1 ATBB/BB - 5 BBs - 1 Semi Hit - 1 Average

- Aamir since 2008 = 6 releases - 4 ATBBs - 1 Semi Hit - 1 Average

Aamir's highs are higher but Salman's record is much more impressive because of the frequency of his movies and the type of filmmakers he works with.

@ red...as long as BOI is not the Mecca...who cares where it is...u can't do Hajj outside of Mecca anywhere in Saudi ...can you??😛...so somewhere in Saudi or Afghanistan ...its all the same...and this is exactly my point...😛

BTW did you read what BOI said about PK? It basically says that Aamir couldn't pull the audience in the first few days...and after that the audience were pulled because of content and WOM...so Hirani is the one who gets credit...agree or disagree??

I mean Jai Ho+Kick=PK and still Aamir is not number 1??

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Karenina

@Karenina

Inactive

Posted: 11 years ago

#28

Originally posted by: blue-ice

@ red...as long as BOI is not the Mecca...who cares where it is...u can't do Hajj outside of Mecca anywhere in Saudi ...can you??😛...so somewhere in Saudi or Afghanistan ...its all the same...and this is exactly my point...😛

BTW did you read what BOI said about PK? It basically says that Aamir couldn't pull the audience in the first few days...and after that the audience were pulled because of content and WOM...so Hirani is the one who gets credit...agree or disagree??

I mean Jai Ho+Kick=PK and still Aamir is not number 1??

I don't think it's about the amount of money they made in the long run.

Rajun Hirani is a big factor. He delivered a 70 crore grosser with Sanjay Dutt back in 2006 when - until that period - only one movie had crossed 70 crores (Gadar). He delivered a Super Hit movie in 2003 - almost challenging KMG and surpassing Baghban and KHNH that year.

It's not even that Aamir delivered a BB with a 1st time director, unknown actress, and nobody else in terms of face value than Salman (in Kick). Or how about Jai Ho - a movie that had Salman and only Salman driving it? A budget of around 20 crores + a flop director + a pathetic actress + a great actor in Tabu but ultimately not really a marketable proposition.

I won't underestimate Aamir. How can you? But it's really difficult to undermine what Salman accomplishes with unknown faces and people and half the credibility/pedigree of Aamir Khan.

On the opening, BOI is right, no? 3I was a record opener. Ghajini was. D3 was. But PK wasn't. In fact, it was lesser than a movie released in pre-Eid.

Aamir Khan has a huge following and is the most trusted brand in Bollywood for a reason. His movies aren't like Salman's movies. Yet, Salman's following is almost perplexing. His movies offer nothing but lousy entertainment. Kick is nothing compared to PK. Jai Ho was more like a B-grade movie...

Think it's fair to say that BOI is right here. Last year, in 2009, or 2008, Aamir was the star of the year. Generally, BOI considers the opening and the hysteria individual stars create. PK had the biggest director in Bollywood today; Kick had nobody apart from Salman.

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MalahFirangi

@MalahFirangi

Rocker

+ 2

Posted: 11 years ago

#29

Originally posted by: Kareenafanatic
You got to trust some source and a source that archives its records and could release all of what they have, when and if needed, is better than a trade analyst who borrows figures off the producers.

As I've been saying, BOI isn't the Mecca of Indian box-office, but it sure as hell is somewhere in Saudi. Taran's still in Afghanistan or somewhere.

Don't agree with Dabbang/Ghajini being downgraded to BB (from ATBB), but verdicts are BOI's system - figures are closer to facts, which is why I trust figures more than verdicts. If a movie is Super Hit acc. to BOI and BB acc. to Taran, it means the movie has done remarkably well. If a movie Above Average acc. to Taran and Average acc. to BOI, it'd mean the movie is in the green, but hasn't really set the cash registers ringing.

Salman being the #1 star of the year is BOI's analysis. It's not a fact. Fact is that Kick did BB and PK did ATBB business. You may disagree with their analysis.

Also, they got the Star of the Year (Female), Producer, Director, and Distributor spot on - so why so much hungama when they declared Salman as the #1 star of 2014?

- Salman since 2010 = 8 releases - 1 ATBB/BB - 5 BBs - 1 Semi Hit - 1 Average

- Aamir since 2008 = 6 releases - 4 ATBBs - 1 Semi Hit - 1 Average

Aamir's highs are higher but Salman's record is much more impressive because of the frequency of his movies and the type of filmmakers he works with.

leave it all and see how they looks together

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Nikki

@touch_of_pink

Sparkler

+ 8

Posted: 11 years ago

#30

Originally posted by: cougarTown

Just curios. What is reliable then? Can't even trust producer's own figures that way..their is no proof they aren't lying

There is no reliable source because there is no accurate way to record how many tickets are sold per cinema. Which is why most of the industry want systems like Rentrak to be fully set up in India.

Anupama Chopra held a discussion panel on this topic a couple of months ago (i think it was at it mumbai film festival). Arjun Kapoor made some good points. Being a producer's son he understands the box office very well.

[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wXSXfpcUPc[/YOUTUBE]

Worth watching if you are interested in box office figures