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Originally posted by: Gubbara..

First of all, let me say that I might not know even .0001% about Vedas and bhagvad Gita. However as a hindu I understand and accept that the fundamental deities, the trinity of brahma, vishnu and mahesh...the creator, preserver and destroyer respectively are NOT one.

So when you say "we" have only one god is so WRONG! See, that's just the thing. Hinduism is such a large and unique religion which has 100s of sects, and each sect can believe something different. Some sects believe all the Gods are separate entities, while other sects believe they are all different manifestations of the same God. Basically, nothing is wrong as long as it leads us to God one way or other. That is just what Lord Krishna said in the Bhagawad Gita. He said there is no one way to God. Whatever way people use to reach him is acceptable. Some reach through bhakti maarg, some through karma maarg. Neither is wrong as long as we do not harm each other to reach God. Humanity comes before anything else, and in protecting humanity also we can reach God, because God is in every individual.

Secondly, you called idol worship pears as stupid...

I do worship idols of lord ram and Krishna...they are the vishnu avatars in human form?? not every day but I make sure to light up diyas,agarbatti on their birthdays just like I remember my ancestors on their birthdays and death anniversaries. Many of us have not seen our grandma/pa but we do have pics of them in our house and still offer our respect to them and get hurt if someone try to insult them, don't we? Just because they don't exist physically in front of our eyes doesn't mean they never did in the first place. I so agree with this point, well put! 👏 There is nothing stupid about idol worship. People don't have to believe in it if they don't want to, but to call something names is wrong, intolerant and ignorant. We don't have to believe in all the religions in the world. In fact, people don't have to believe in any religion. To each their own. However, some level of tolerance should be maintained when talking about religion. Even if we may think something is unreasonable in our mind, we shouldn't express it out loud by calling it names, because it's downright rude. What right do we have to call someone else's belief stupid?

You seem to talk a lot about Vedas and all, show me where does it state that the gods will punish if you don't believe in them or disrespects them? LOLest LOL. That's true. Hinduism does not believe in a punishing God. There is something called karma that determines someone's fate. We write our own destiny, God merely guides us along and gives us chances to redeem ourselves.

We have the concept of karma and rebirth, the very basic concept of Hinduism!! Even people who are not Hindus have knowledge of it. Our gods don't believe in punishments.😆. YOU someone who claims to be religious should have known better,lol.

You have all the rights to criticise Hindus and the religion you come from, no one is going to behead or bomb you but if you don't even know the basics and go on brainlessly attacking people's faith, it will only make you look like a n ignorant fool,lol

P.S. Atleast read the basic concept of bhagvad Gita before quoting Krishna n comparing it with other books.

Originally posted by: return_to_hades

I feel that when it comes to religion or sensitive issues people get overtly defensive and fail to acknowledge some level of accountability.

Think of a company where some employees engage in corruption or scamming. Once exposed, it becomes a major scandal. The reputation of the company is tarnished. The entire organization is scrutinized top down for such unscrupulous dealings. Are all employees like this? Does management condone such behavior? Surely the company has an organizational structure that lets people easily do such things. Even when most employees are innocent, such scrutiny is inevitable. A company cannot ignore the problem or refuse to acknowledge it. The company cannot say we are innocent and expect everyone to believe it. People want accountability and responsibility. People want a promise of follow up and change. The company has to take significant actions to punish the guilty, establish rules and guidelines and continuously monitor their employees to prevent such issues from rising again.

Similarly when members of a certain religion or community engage in violence it becomes a major issue. The reputation of that faith or community is tarnished. Everyone looks at them top down to see if everyone is messed up. Is every member of this group like this? Do the preachers/leaders/holy books condone such behavior. Surely there is something wrong with the belief structure that lets people do this. Even when most people are innocent, it is human nature to scrutinize. Religions simply cannot ignore the problem and refuse to acknowledge it. They cannot say most of us are good and expect people to blindly buy it. They have to become accountable and say, yes we see a problem within our ranks. They must commit to some sort of change to steer their entire population towards better behavior. Accountability and responsibility is a must.

Even if most priests were innocent, the Catholic Church had to do accept the sex abuse scandal and do something about it.

Even if not all cops are racist, the justice system in USA has to acknowledge the racial biases and do something about it

Even if all Indians are not rapists, India has to admit they have a rape problem and try to uplift the perception of women

Similarly, even though most Muslims are innocent and denounce terrorism - Islam has to acknowledge that they have a problem with terrorism. They have to admit that Muslim religious terrorism is the current most pressing global issue. People are not saying the entire religion is bad. What people are asking is please acknowledge the problems affiliated with you and do your best to fix it.

Originally posted by: ranbirs

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/isis-execute-150-women-for-refusing-to-marry-militants-and-bury-them-in-mass-graves-9930766.html

Wow. Just ~