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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: likarsh


If the film has good production and is of great quality, then I think the audience would watch two or three part films, which run 2-3 hours.

Lord of the Rings, for example

China has done some amazing historical and mythological films. Red Cliff, a historical type, was two parts and both ran for more than two hours.

I say that it would depend on the quality of the product. Aside for the script, direction and writing, the production and budget need to be of grand scale. And of course, along with that budget, you need to make a good quality product, and not just some convoluted, messy final product.



Yes and that's how it should be. But Lord of the Rings is Hollywood. Also, Chinese, Japanese films are good with presenting mythological stories as well and the audience loves it. Non-Bollywood mythological films work, they do have an audience as has been proven many times. I'm just not sure how they'd fare in India which is such a shame because India has a very rich mythological history.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: Skepblun



You mean make some modern characters have traits of characters from mythologicals and set the story in an urban milieu?

I think film can be managed in short duration. If they've done that in past with less resources, surely they can manage better now with more resources, better knowledge of cinema and better understanding of viewer mindset.

I do agree film should not be lengthy. If it keeps going on and on for 3 hours and also has some religious bhajan or shloka based song every two minutes then there is no chance of audience sitting through the whole film in today's times!


Yes, even I think that if they could cut the religious aspects and focus on the mythologies or derived mythologies like Amish's Shiva Triology or Chitra Bannerjee's Palace of Illusions, they can get a lot of audience..For example Troy was completely delinked from the religious aspects of Iliad and presented as a mortal event...But for such projects the foremost thing is research - costumes, language, etiquette of ancient India..etc..
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: Dexterkilaila

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Yes and that's how it should be. But Lord of the Rings is Hollywood. Also, Chinese, Japanese films are good with presenting mythological stories as well and the audience loves it. Non-Bollywood mythological films work, they do have an audience as has been proven many times. I'm just not sure how they'd fare in India which is such a shame because India has a very rich mythological history.


I agree. It's hard to see Indian adapting such a grand scale. What I meant was, perhaps if India could... When I watch some of the Asian films, I wish India would since the country has so much history and mythology.

Perhaps, if they did, the audience would appreciate it? But I guess it's a dilemma. Who would put all the effort and money (assuming that effort and money turn out a good product) if they can't be too sure of the audience?

Then there's also the question of whether it can be pulled off in Bollywood, which has such a disorganized way or working.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: likarsh


I agree. It's hard to see Indian adapting such a grand scale. What I meant was, perhaps if India could... When I watch some of the Asian films, I wish India would since the country has so much history and mythology.

Perhaps, if they did, the audience would appreciate it? But I guess it's a dilemma. Who would put all the effort and money (assuming that effort and money turn out a good product) if they can't be too sure of the audience?

Then there's also the question of whether it can be pulled off in Bollywood, which has such a disorganized way or working.



Yea true. I think someone like Mira Nair could pull it off. Or someone as good as her. She did Vanity Fair which is no mythological film per say but it is a costume drama. If a good director is at the helm of it and there's enough funding, I'm sure it will be appreciated. India has so many mythological stories just waiting to be explored on the big screen.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: KkkingKhan


I didnt know the proper term, but yes its regarded religion.

Im talking about the cast, as in the actors and not the writers, this is just my opinion. Today even good films bomb at the box office, and todays generation is still just as backward minded as they were years back.

These kind of films are more for the older audience, and they pay attention to things like that. Im just saying itd be weird seeing a Aamir Khan playing Ram, not trying to stir the pot, just my opinion.


The proper word would be bigotry...Hostility towards people of another religion is bigotry...But I personally feel it irksome when words like 'racism' is thrown into matters of religion..Being a skeptic and New Atheist, I have been accused of 'racism' for my opinions on religion on multiple occasions and I have gotten tired of reminding people that religion is not race..That's why I have grown a bit defensive on this..

Anyways, Indian audience may be stupid in terms of choosing good films, but I don't think religion is ever a major factor in their choice..

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Posted: 12 years ago
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@KkkingKhan

You have brought up a pertinent point on today's actors. I can't imagine Aamir (or any other Khan!) as Ram or Krishna.

Actors are either too polished or modern/urban to convincingly fit the mytho mould or they simply lack the voice, physicality, features and appearance to do justice to mytho roles.

Aamir lacks height and voice. SRK is taller but not that tall or strong built either and his voice...I do not know if it will suit those dialogues. New guys like Ranbir or Shahid look way too urban to do complete justice to mytho roles.

But you never know...if a good filmmaker handles and presents actors perfectly then it might even work.

For eg. I never thought that model Mohit Raina could play Lord Shiva. I had laughed when I saw him in Mahadev promos on Life OK. But that man is doing a pretty good job as Shiva. He's churning out surprisingly controlled performances in all avatars of Lord Shiva.
Maybe some Bolly actor can also surprise if he works hard and so does the team that is working on the project?

@DexterKiLaila

I also feel India has rich mythological history that offers plethora of interesting, gripping stories and characters to watch. The only issue is whether the Indian film industry can tap this resource properly?

Audience can accept it if things are done in a unique and engaging manner. They are curious about such characters anyway.

The onus is more on the creators on how they go about creating and presenting the stories and market them to audience.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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By the way, Zee is supposed to be airing a limited run mytho on Buddha. I don't know how much I should look forward to it, but if the production values are high, then it might be start in the right direction.

Star Plus' Mahabharat, I haven't read anything of it being set in the number of episodes.

If television channels and production houses are willing to buckle up, create a good/high quality series with a set amount of episodes, it would be interesting.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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I love period Korean dramas and movies. But I am quiet bored by Indian mythological stories which keeps on repeating. I would rather see a period Indian movie or show which doesn't involve gods/goddess and their avatars. I quiet liked Chandragupt Maurya show.

Also the important thing is budget. The shows and movies should be made well. All the mytho shows have bad setting and sets (whichever I have seen).
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: Rehanism


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I 100% agree with your post! Research and authenticity (as much as possible) is most important. Where Indian filmmakers and even TV show makers falter is that they start to focus more on glamour and grandeur than well researched story! The actors also focus on glamour and do not brush up on their voice modulation and pronounciation of language.

I agree they should de-link the stories from religion and present them as just fiction.
That will help attract largest catchment of audience and also reduce possibility of bigotry or controversy (only reduce, not entirely eliminate the risk considering the country is India!).

In fact, I feel (from your post), that we should even have movies on warriors like Rani Laxmibai and Tantia Tope - which focus on the individuals and their deeds and avoid making jingoistic statements making it all over-patriotic or too preachy!

Our creatives in entertainment industry have bad habit of putting overdose of religion or patriotism in stuff they show from mythology or history.

If they can avoid that, then we still have audience that can lap up well researched, well presented and well enacted stories onscreen.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: .DejaVu

I love period Korean dramas and movies. But I am quiet bored by Indian mythological stories which keeps on repeating. I would rather see a period Indian movie or show which doesn't involve gods/goddess and their avatars. I quiet liked Chandragupt Maurya show.


Also the important thing is budget. The shows and movies should be made well. All the mytho shows have bad setting and sets (whichever I have seen).




I have to agree on this. I myself would like to see stories of characters other than just Ram or Krishna. Like Kartikeya for eg.

Or less known legends from gods' lives. Such as story of Lord Shiva and Meenakshi.

I am surprised why we have never had any movie or good TV series on emperors like Samudragupta, Kanishka, Harshvardhan! Or persons like Chanakya, Birbal, Tenali Raman.

There are other characters also such as Dhanvantri (physician of gods, if I am not mistaken).
Gurus like Shukracharya and Dronacharya have had very eventful lives too. But we have only seen them as supporting characters in shows on Mahabharat or Lord Shiva.

I agree about sets. Either they are too glossy and artificial. Or they are too drab. Both ways it puts off the viewer.

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