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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: guess_wh0



That would make sense except these practices happen in Punjab where the majority of the population is Sikh. Muslims don't do Rakhi or Karva Chauth, why do Sikhs?
The reason is Sikhism is majorly influenced by Hinduism. Sikh and Hindu inter-marriage is common. Sikh's and Hindu's don't think twice about visiting a temple or a gurudwara. Sikh's still get married under the Hindu Marriage act. Hell, all the Sikh saints were hindu. The two major thing's they opposed were idol worship and the caste system. Sadly, the caste system is more rampant in Sikhism today than Hinduism.
The biggest thing though is that Sikh's are converted Hindu's and not too long ago. The eldest son was made a Sikh in Punjab. There are still families that have one brother a Sikh and the others Hindu. This explains a lot of common surnames.

Its ignorant to hold such radical views in today's time and age.

The point is.. I have already made my point. Who was in India before Sikhism was even thought of? Who were the main group of people? As I've said before, Sikhism is only 300 years old whereas the other religions are much much older. There has been and always will be a footing of cultural and religious views of dominant religions in Punjab, no matter how much we try to deny it. You are right. Sikhism is opposed to the caste system. You are also right that some Sikhs still believe in the division of caste. But I am not representing the thoughts of Sikhs. I am talking about Sikhism itself. The original topic was about the degradation of Sikhs in BW movies with the latest one abuot Ajay Devgan playing a role of a Sikh man with the tatoo of a Hindu goddess on his chest and there might be Sikhs who sport similar tattoos BUT those Sikhs do NOT represent Sikhi views and that is what I am against.
When one cannot respect the views of another religion and try to distort or misrepresent something, then that is wrong. As to your other comment about Sikhs being converted Hindus. Do you know why those Hindus chose to do so? Its because the Sikhs had openly gone against the Mughals to fight their injustice and Hindus used to offer their firstborns to the Khalsa Army to train and protect the innocent from the injustice of the Moghuls. They offered their sons to the Khalsa to protect the Hindus. Not ALL Sikhs are converted Hindus. You are sadly misinformed.
Its ignorant to call out on others' views (facts) as radical in today's modern age. 😊
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: galacticb

The point is.. I have already made my point. Who was in India before Sikhism was even thought of? Who were the main group of people? As I've said before, Sikhism is only 300 years old whereas the other religions are much much older. There has been and always will be a footing of cultural and religious views of dominant religions in Punjab, no matter how much we try to deny it. You are right. Sikhism is opposed to the caste system. You are also right that some Sikhs still believe in the division of caste. But I am not representing the thoughts of Sikhs. I am talking about Sikhism itself. The original topic was about the degradation of Sikhs in BW movies with the latest one abuot Ajay Devgan playing a role of a Sikh man with the tatoo of a Hindu goddess on his chest and there might be Sikhs who sport similar tattoos BUT those Sikhs do NOT represent Sikhi views and that is what I am against.

When one cannot respect the views of another religion and try to distort or misrepresent something, then that is wrong. As to your other comment about Sikhs being converted Hindus. Do you know why those Hindus chose to do so? Its because the Sikhs had openly gone against the Mughals to fight their injustice and Hindus used to offer their firstborns to the Khalsa Army to train and protect the innocent from the injustice of the Moghuls. They offered their sons to the Khalsa to protect the Hindus. Not ALL Sikhs are converted Hindus. You are sadly misinformed.
Its ignorant to call out on others' views (facts) as radical in today's modern age. 😊



Its actually a tattoo of Shiva, not a Hindu goddess.

You know who else was a huge Shiva bhakt? The guy who made Sikhism.

Please enlighten me then, if Sikhs are not Hindus, then who else converted to Sikhism?

Anyways, this is not the place to have a religious debate. I personally don't believe in any religion as it is but I do believe in God. I'm sorry if I've hurt your religious sentiments in any way. Was just trying to have a healthy debate. Have a great day.

Edited by guess_wh0 - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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thanx GW for replying this member abt this comment

@attractive - go and Google abt the reason behind 12 baje
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: -Xaffron-

The last time I checked, Ajay was a Marathi Manoos. And Akshay Kumar is a Sikh? Wow... What rock had I been hiding under?


Ajay is a Sikh Punjabi ... Devgans r Sikhs ... he mentioned it in Couch with Koel too

Akshay is Hindu ... even though Khatri can be hindu or Sikhs ... there r Sikh Bhatias too but Akki is Hindu Bhatia
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: TheRowdiest


Ajay is a Sikh Punjabi ... Devgans r Sikhs ... he mentioned it in Couch with Koel too

Akshay is Hindu ... even though Khatri can be hindu or Sikhs ... there r Sikh Bhatias too but Akki is Hindu Bhatia



Cool. Thanks for letting me know. I get to learn something new every day. 😊
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Posted: 12 years ago
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@TheRowdiest: What about Ruby Bhatia? Is she a Sikh also?
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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i m not sure abt Ruby Bhatia ... never read much abt her so no idea abt her
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: galacticb

Thanks for the link. 😃
I have posted another link as well that speaks about this topic. And yes, if more information is needed, the internet is a powerful tool. Just be careful about what you read online though. :)

Thanks for the You-tube link...I never knew the story behind the barah baje...what a noble cause I should say👏
@ Topic...I don't really remember the trailor of SOS...other then it was very funny and hilarious...but in general in our BW movies...the Sardars are always shown in good light...i don't remember seeing a movie where a Sardar was shown as a coward, a rapist, a conman etc...they have always been shown as brave, honest , very funny and caring people...I have lot of Sikh friends and although i am a Hindu...I have visited Gurudwaras and they come for our poojas...frankly speaking I never found Sikhs and different from Hindus...I find them the most lovable people of all the ethnic groups from India..
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: guess_wh0



I've done a research paper on the religions of the east and done some massive research. Sikhism, like Hinduism, is based on Dharma and Karma. You can call it truth, the basis is the same. How different are the weddings? Hindu Temple and Sikh Temple. 7 phere and 4 phere. Punjabi is the language of Punjab spoken by Hindus, Muslims and Sikhs. History? Not really. People of the Punjab have the same history. The pagdi is worn by North Indian men everywhere, if that's what you mean by attire.from Rajasthan to Punjab. No two religions have the same surnames, except for Hinduism and Sikhism. Are they really different religions?

Hinduism believes in one God too. Just different "avatars".
How was Sikhism started?
Was it not a trend for each family to make their eldest son a Sikh to join the Guru's army to fight the Mughal Invaders?
If two brothers can be Sikh and Hindu, how can the religions be completely different?
And Sikhism wasn't started till the 10th Guru. So the first 9 Gurus were Hindus.



No they weren't.. how can you be a Hindu when you do not believe in the main principles of it? Sikhism started because our Guru's did NOT believe in 330 million gods and also to protect the minorities which were Hindus in those days, God is only one for Sikhs and not for Hindus. Yes the pagdi is worn but it's worn in a different way, it's like saying people from Afghanistan wear the same pagdi as the Sikhs in India! And you're totally wrong there my dear, surnames weren't given based on religion.. they were given based on cast. For example there are so many Muslims with the same surnames as Sikhs because they have the same cast. Jatts in Pakistan have the same surnames as the Jatts in India but not the same religion!

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