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Posted: 12 years ago
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And who are you? **Edited: Offensive language**
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Originally posted by: galacticb



whats is offensive in that? I really don't know history behind that. Could you enlighten me on that?

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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: galacticb

Just a heads up... Being a Punjabi and being a Sikh are two TOTALLY different things. If you are a punjabi, that is your race. If you are a Sikh, that is your RELIGION. So even though Ajay Devgan may be a punjabi, he may not be a Sikh. I dont know about that. But I thought I'd clear up this misconception.

For example, the Kapoor family (Rishi, Ranbir bla bla) are Punjabis but they are NOT sikhs. They are hindus.
You can certainly be a punjabi if you live in Punjab or have roots in Punjab but that does not automatically make one a Sikh.
Its true that Sikhs have ALWAYS been misrepresented in BW movies and its about time that Sikhs stop being push-overs and represented in a bad light. Because BW movies are not just shown in India, they are shown all over the world and many people can form misconceptions because of how a certain group of people are portrayed.
It is NOT right to showcase something that is totally wrong. Being a Sikh, we do not believe in idols. And to show a Sikh man with a tatoo of a hindu god is tantamount to insulting our beliefs. If Ajay Devgan was a Sikh, he would have known that.
It wouldnt be right if another religion was misrepresented in punjabi movies and in the same vein, the opposite is true as well. As a Sikh, I am not offended by BW anymore. Bollywood directors are mostly full of crap and claim to do research for this and that but fill their movies with many bs and misrepresentations.
We are a young religion, barely 300 years old. There are about 27 million Sikhs worldwide. BW should stop falsifying facts about Sikhs and Im in complete support of the Akal Takht if they choose to pursue action against this movie.
Phew. End of rant.



You live in the past. Other than Idol worship, there really is no major difference.

Most of my friends are Sikh's and there really can't be any two religions that are more similar than Hinduism and Sikhism. Nobody is portraying the perfect Sikh. If everyone started being so sensitive, there would never be a film made.

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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: ~Attractive~



Why don't you google it. I'm sure its open on your browser anyways. **Edited: Offensive language**

Edited by souro - 12 years ago

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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: -Xaffron-

galacticb, I think you can answer my question above then. You look like someone who knows what they're talking about. Thank you.

Hi, in BW there are MANY misrepresentations. It is not uncommon to see people of different faiths adopting religious practices from other faiths. For example, the the festival of rakhi or karwa chauth is not a religious practice for Sikhs. But many Sikhs do it anyway. This is because of the environment they are in. If you think about it, 80% of people in India are Hindus. 13% are muslims and the other religions form only a very small percentage in India. Therefore, a lot of it has to do with the environment and the dominant religion in the place one is living in.
For example, I live in Singapore. The dominant race here is Chinese and even though we are definitely not Chinese, we do celebrate Chinese New year by partaking in their activities. But this next part is important. Sikhs and Chinese are so different racially, biologically, environmentally that it is difficult to relate with each other. In India however, you could be a Hindu, Muslim or Sikh, but they all look the same and they speak the same language to communicate with each other. The dominant language is Hindi. And because hinduism is a very old religion, it has made its mark in India and according to me, that would be a very big factor in influencing how people would think, react and the beliefs that they would hold.
Im not saying that its not right to visit each other's places of worship. Heck, I go to the church and the chinese temple with my friends to learn about their beliefs. In any case Xaffron, I cannot solely explain the actions of millions of Sikhs in India. I have heard alot from Sikhs who are not from India that Sikhs from India are ignorant about their own culture. I dont know how true that statement is and I will not agree or disagree with that statement but it is against the Sikh religion to conduct poojas and pray to idols but alot of Sikhs in India do that. I am not judging anyone but you asked for my opinion and the lecture above is my opinion. Sorry for the long rant. haha.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: galacticb

Hi, in BW there are MANY misrepresentations. It is not uncommon to see people of different faiths adopting religious practices from other faiths. For example, the the festival of rakhi or karwa chauth is not a religious practice for Sikhs. But many Sikhs do it anyway. This is because of the environment they are in. If you think about it, 80% of people in India are Hindus. 13% are muslims and the other religions form only a very small percentage in India. Therefore, a lot of it has to do with the environment and the dominant religion in the place one is living in.

For example, I live in Singapore. The dominant race here is Chinese and even though we are definitely not Chinese, we do celebrate Chinese New year by partaking in their activities. But this next part is important. Sikhs and Chinese are so different racially, biologically, environmentally that it is difficult to relate with each other. In India however, you could be a Hindu, Muslim or Sikh, but they all look the same and they speak the same language to communicate with each other. The dominant language is Hindi. And because hinduism is a very old religion, it has made its mark in India and according to me, that would be a very big factor in influencing how people would think, react and the beliefs that they would hold.
Im not saying that its not right to visit each other's places of worship. Heck, I go to the church and the chinese temple with my friends to learn about their beliefs. In any case Xaffron, I cannot solely explain the actions of millions of Sikhs in India. I have heard alot from Sikhs who are not from India that Sikhs from India are ignorant about their own culture. I dont know how true that statement is and I will not agree or disagree with that statement but it is against the Sikh religion to conduct poojas and pray to idols but alot of Sikhs in India do that. I am not judging anyone but you asked for my opinion and the lecture above is my opinion. Sorry for the long rant. haha.



That would make sense except these practices happen in Punjab where the majority of the population is Sikh. Muslims don't do Rakhi or Karva Chauth, why do Sikhs?
The reason is Sikhism is majorly influenced by Hinduism. Sikh and Hindu inter-marriage is common. Sikh's and Hindu's don't think twice about visiting a temple or a gurudwara. Sikh's still get married under the Hindu Marriage act. Hell, all the Sikh saints were hindu. The two major thing's they opposed were idol worship and the caste system. Sadly, the caste system is more rampant in Sikhism today than Hinduism.
The biggest thing though is that Sikh's are converted Hindu's and not too long ago. The eldest son was made a Sikh in Punjab. There are still families that have one brother a Sikh and the others Hindu. This explains a lot of common surnames.

Its ignorant to hold such radical views in today's time and age.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: galacticb

Hi, in BW there are MANY misrepresentations. It is not uncommon to see people of different faiths adopting religious practices from other faiths. For example, the the festival of rakhi or karwa chauth is not a religious practice for Sikhs. But many Sikhs do it anyway. This is because of the environment they are in. If you think about it, 80% of people in India are Hindus. 13% are muslims and the other religions form only a very small percentage in India. Therefore, a lot of it has to do with the environment and the dominant religion in the place one is living in.

For example, I live in Singapore. The dominant race here is Chinese and even though we are definitely not Chinese, we do celebrate Chinese New year by partaking in their activities. But this next part is important. Sikhs and Chinese are so different racially, biologically, environmentally that it is difficult to relate with each other. In India however, you could be a Hindu, Muslim or Sikh, but they all look the same and they speak the same language to communicate with each other. The dominant language is Hindi. And because hinduism is a very old religion, it has made its mark in India and according to me, that would be a very big factor in influencing how people would think, react and the beliefs that they would hold.
Im not saying that its not right to visit each other's places of worship. Heck, I go to the church and the chinese temple with my friends to learn about their beliefs. In any case Xaffron, I cannot solely explain the actions of millions of Sikhs in India. I have heard alot from Sikhs who are not from India that Sikhs from India are ignorant about their own culture. I dont know how true that statement is and I will not agree or disagree with that statement but it is against the Sikh religion to conduct poojas and pray to idols but alot of Sikhs in India do that. I am not judging anyone but you asked for my opinion and the lecture above is my opinion. Sorry for the long rant. haha.



Thank you. I appreciate your opinion. So, in essence, you're implying that they shouldn't be partaking in each other's rituals, correct? What I was confused about was that if the Sikhs and the Hindus followed two different sets of beliefs, why did the commonalities IN THEIR FAITHS exist. Cultural commonalities can be ignored, becuz it would apply for Hindus, Christians, Muslims, Sikhs, and everyone else residing in the society.

I somehow feel there needs to be a fine line drawn here. But since neither am I a Sikh, nor a Hindu, I will reserve my comments. I have always been intrigued by this topic.
Edited by -Xaffron- - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: ~Attractive~

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Abusive messages to you?

Lmao...Dude you're not worth my time.

**Edited: Ridiculing another member's English**

You'll be better off speaking in your native language. Hindi, Gujrati whatever it is you speak.
Edited by souro - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Mods, can you please look into the above matter. This is getting out of hand.

Thank you.


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