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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: nanshr

Guy passing by - Name X
Guy who says hi - Name Y
Friend of friend - Name Z
Based on Novel by - Chetan Bhagat.

THAT's how he was credited! All the way at the end, after all the smaller contributions...who wouldn't be pissed?


Yeah, that's the sucky part. It's inconsiderate of VVC and team to give CB credit in the middle of assistant directors etc. HE gave the premise, the characters for the movie. And thats a vital part. If they didnt wanna give him credit in the beginning, then they couldve had "Inspiration taken from FPS" right after the movie ends in big enough font that would've been noticed. But no. They throw in other names, and then give him credit in the middle of nowhere.

You'd only understand how the person's feeling over given such a measly credit when you go through it. Doesnt matter if they changed storylines around. The CONCEPT was lifted from the book. The idea was Chetan's.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Also, has Amir read the book? Because if he hasn't, then he has no right to speak about it. He wouldnt know what was copied and what wasn't. Plus actor has no business in this issue. It's between the producers and author.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: -bluemoon-

I have a very low opinion of CB as a writer. And this to me sounds like him trying to get publicity since he already had an arrangement with the producers. He said now that he never read the script and found that it had more similarities to the book than he was aware of - maybe he shouldn't have signed that agreement then without making sure that he would be shown the script. Perhaps CB was intentionally mislead and then he might have a case, but he did sign that agreement.

BTW does anyone remember/know how Vikas Swarup was credited in Slumdog Millionaire since the movie is also based on his book?

Vikas Swarup was not just credited in the beginning of the movie, but the script writer of the film actually took Vikas's name, thanking him, while receiving his Oscar!!!
And Slumdog Millionaire was a loose adaptation of the novel too! There are a lot of differences between the book and movie!
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Hmm...so I haven't read the book and hence will not comment on how far the movie is like it or different from it...but from what I have understood so far, the point I agree with most is the one adios articulated quite well...that it's now a confrontation of beliefs, really...let's see who has the last word...
Just a couple of points I could gather and wanted to point out...
One, of every individual involved in the controversy, so to speak, the one person whose conduct I didn't find graceful at all was Vidhu Vinod Chopra...the man needs to calm down and not be so aggressive in his own defense...tips the balance the other way for no other reason than uncalled for disrespect...
Two, in that regard, Aamir was at least respectful when he voiced his opinion...and I suppose the one flaw one might find in his stand is that he has not read the book himself...that also just goes to say that he's standing by his director and scriptwriter, and doing so at least without unnecessary aggression...
Three, by what I can gather, the story is inspired by the novel, incidences taken, but moulded in a different way...in that light, I would think that credit would belong to the writers of the movie as well as the writer of the book, in two different ways...personally, I don't think the question is of full credit at all...the whole point is that credit belongs to both, one for giving the premise that the other develops and moulds into a larger, albeit varied whole...like desigal90 pointed out, JK Rowling is credited for the HP movies because they are adaptations of her story with minor modifications...CB's novel has not been adapted in that sense in its entirety...elements have been taken, and a larger story built with them...having said that, and regardless of who is seeking publicity and who is not, a simple mention at the beginning, or even at the end of the movie before the rolling credits, would have been a more fair thing to do...
A lot of movies begin with 'Thank You' lists for guest appearences and the likes...and I'm no authority on the matter, but I don't think a simple "Thank You : Chetan Bhagat, 'Five Point Someone'" would have done them too much harm even as creative writers...
That apart, I will reserve comment on the publicity-stunt-or-not issue...I'd rather wait for a little more to come to light...and I will also not touch upon the legal angle, because like someone already pointed out, the makers have adhered to the contract and have done nothing legally questionable...
No offense meant, just my point of view...
Cheers!
P.S. Sorry about the long post! 😊
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Very well written post, nandinidev!
In the end it boils down basically to issues of respect, ego and gratefulness!
As you said, a simple thank you to the author would have done no harm to the team of 3 Idiots and Chetan and his fans instead of lashing out against the unfairness of VVC and Team would have probably been gushing about they are honored to have his book filmed so wonderfully!
Aamir was respectful, yes, but he was unnecessarily harsh towards Chetan too...and this is something that Aamir's own fans have written in his blog. It doesn't matter what Chetan told him or not, he has no rights to comment on the book or the author until he has personally seen the differences or similarities between the said book and his film. Fine, he was supporting his own team, but that doesn't mean, he has put down someone else for it.
VVC needs some serious PR lessons! No one in the Industry likes him as such and now he has irked the media also...they are going to make a mince-meat out of him! As everyone is pointing out, if he thinks he is right, then there was no need to flare up so much...only people who have to justify themselves at anycost, loose their self-control!
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Posted: 15 years ago
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[quote]A lot of movies begin with 'Thank You' lists for guest appearences and the likes...and I'm no authority on the matter, but I don't think a simple "Thank You : Chetan Bhagat, 'Five Point Someone'" would have done them too much harm even as creative writers...[/quote]

Thats what I dont get. A simple prominent credit would have worked. Abhijat should be credited for the script, definitely. But CB should've been credited properly for the story idea. And its not about legal issues, its about ethics.

2ndly, Amir was respectful, sure. But what's sad is that Amir doesnt realize but he's coming off as daft and is making me think that maybe he isnt as intelligent after all. ANY intelligent person would first look into the matter THEMSELVES, then comment on it. Amir hasnt even read the book, and is making statements like these. Didnt expect Amir to act so stupid. 😕
Edited by crazy fanatic - 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago
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As a simple example...the story of multiple Oscar award winning movie, Brokeback Mountain was based on a short story by Annie Proulx published in a newspaper (not even as a book!).
The script-writers adapted the very short story into a full lenght movie, making umpteen changes to the characters, story and script in the way...but from the opening credit of the film till the acceptance speech by the director of the film, as he received his Oscar...they never failed to mention the original author's name! She was always thanked for being the basic inspiration for the movie!
I don't get how 'Inspired by Chetan Bhagat's FPS' could have hurt VVC and his Team!!! 😕 They might have changed the story completely, but the core of the film was taken by the book! Its a fact! And a more respectful credit roll wouldn't have hurt anyone!
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Posted: 15 years ago
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@poppy2009 and crazy fanatic...Agree with your point on Aamir...what I meant in my post was just to highlight the contrast between his response and VVC's...had he been just as aggressive, I would've had much more serious issues with what would then be his audacity in showing aggression in a matter he doesn't fully understand...
But yes, you're both correct in the poiint you're making...and so is CB here...Aamir's statement on CB seeking publicity because the film is a success has no credibility apart from his faith in his director and script-writer, since he has not read the book himself...legally, there's nothing wrong with it, but ethically and in some sense even logically, it is questionable...
Edited by nandinidev - 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago
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The latest on Star News is that Vidhu Vinod Chopra has issued an apology to the media for his outburst yesterday and has also said that he never wants to meet Chetan Bhagat again! (I am sure, neither does Chetan have any wish to meet VVC 😆)
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Posted: 15 years ago
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they gave him cridets ...
also VVC bought the rights he paied for him ...

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