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Posted: 16 years ago
I dont think its just muslims....indians get pulled over too. Along with the black people, mexicans, white, and everyone else out there. Its NOT just the muslims
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Shocking,disturbing n downright disgraceful.Its such behavior that fuels hatred n racism.SRK's a world figure for Gods sake.GET REAL!!3:00 AM Aug 15th from Twitterrific
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Posted: 16 years ago

Originally posted by: Jess.

I dont think its just muslims....indians get pulled over too. Along with the black people, mexicans, white, and everyone else out there. Its NOT just the muslims

no, but muslims are a majority, unfortunately all thanks to 9/11...!
however, it's not as bad as it's made out to be... my husband needs to register everytime he leaves or enters the US because his first name is Muhammad... it does cause delay for us many times... he has actually missed his plane a couple of times as well thanks to this and sometimes, a direct flight where he is supposed to land in 2 hours ends up being that he has to take an indirect flight instead (they arrange it themselves) and can cause upto almost 8 hours delay... it has happened but he has never once complained...
i don't see why SRK is complaining...!
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Posted: 16 years ago

Originally posted by: Jess.

Nowadays, security also check sardar's turbans....and i dont think it is wrong at all. Because, ONE man smuggled drugs in his turban and now security will check turbans if the man seems suspicious. ONE man ruined it for all the sardar's out there. Same with the 9/11 attack. Guys, this checking is only making our country(US) strong! How can 1 hour of checking harm us? Some people have been caught doing illegal things during checking..so it is effective!

I for one, am a sikh and i know that some people smuggle drugs on the pretense of religion (ex. turban). So why wouldnt security check these things?

People just like to blow things out of proportion and make it seem like US is attacking indians/muslims.

I totally agree!!!
It is not about being a muslim or having the surname of khan...
sooo many people go through it ..
and yes i am a sikh as well.
Having to see my family go through so many security checks while wearing a turban and having a kirpan .. which is our Guru's nishaani. ..
still we understand the risk factors and understand Safety of the citizens is important as well.
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Posted: 16 years ago

Originally posted by: pksanam

no, but muslims are a majority, unfortunately all thanks to 9/11...!
however, it's not as bad as it's made out to be... my husband needs to register everytime he leaves or enters the US because his first name is Muhammad... it does cause delay for us many times... he has actually missed his plane a couple of times as well thanks to this and sometimes, a direct flight where he is supposed to land in 2 hours ends up being that he has to take an indirect flight instead (they arrange it themselves) and can cause upto almost 8 hours delay... it has happened but he has never once complained...
i don't see why SRK is complaining...!

maybe bcuz as a muslim myself we r fed up of this discrimination. They are extremists in every religion. But they do have to do security check on us muslims only? Honestly its pathetic. If they want to do a security check I dont have a problem but every time we go to an airport that's ridculous. And im saying this out of personal experience. Thank God it's not as bad in Canada. The last time we were in States they stopped my brother for a whole day because his name matched with god knows who. Maybe they should start compensating us for every false security check hahaha I wish!
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Posted: 16 years ago

Just read an article on TOI which claims that SRK was not in fact "detained" but simply held for 'secondary inspection.It also outlines the procedure - or well, their version of it, anyways.

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My name is Khan? Too bad. SRK feels the heat of American paranoia

Chidanand Rajghatta and Bharati Dubey, TNN 15 August 2009, 09:33pm IST

WASHINGTON/MUMBAI: ''My name is Khan.'' ''Oh it is, is it? Step aside, please.''

The way it was related, that might well have been the opening exchange between Shahrukh Khan and an unnamed, uniformed, super-empowered US immigration official who had no idea (and didn't care) that the man in front of him is the star of a film by the same name (My Name is Khan), much less that he is a universal Bollywood icon. (Watch Video)

SRK, as the actor star is known by his popular acronym, was asked to indeed step aside for a ''secondary inspection'' at Newark's ironically named (in this context) Liberty International airport on Friday en route to an event to celebrate India's Independence Day in Chicago, President Barack Obama's hometown. But that was only after a ''primary inspection.''


A ''secondary inspection'' is when the Customs and Border Patrol (CBP) officer manning the immigration counter asks a visitor (or even a US citizen) to move to a separate area for questioning if he cannot initially verify the visitor's information or does not have all of the required documentation, so as to not hold up the rest of the queue.


It is not clear why Khan, who is a frequent visitor to the US, and only recently spent a month here shooting for "My Name is Khan," was subjected to a ''secondary inspection,'' which in itself does not constitute detention.


But the actor surmises that it was because of his last name; in other words, his Muslim identity. He was questioned for nearly two hours, asked what he thought were irrelevant questions, denied the use of his cell phone (which isn't unusual; visitors cannot use mobile phones before clearing immigration) and was finally allowed to make just one phone call under the rules.

''I told them I was a movie star and had recently visited the country for the shooting of my film. Nothing seemed to convince the immigration officer. There were other immigration officers who even vouched for me but this particular officer did not listen to anyone. I even told them I had an invitation from the South Asian community and was there to attend an event.'' Khan told ToI.

Indian and US officials rushed into damage control mode after word came in from Khan's family that that the actor had been ''detained'' and Khan's vast fan base went ballistic. Timothy Roemer, the new US ambassador in New Delhi whose first week on the job it is, said he was trying to ascertain what exactly had happened at Liberty, and that Shahrukh Khan was a global icon whose film were much loved even by Americans and he was always welcome in the US.

But Khan, from all accounts, doesn't feel so welcome and says he will review his plans to visit the US again. In a slew of media interviews after the incident, he said his papers were in order, it seemed to be a case of religious profiling, and the incident was a ''little embarrassing'' for an entertainer of his stature.

Khan's upcoming film ''My Name is Khan,'' a movie about an Indian Muslim setting out on a journey across the United States, is certain to get a boost after the incident.


It is not the first time that an Indian entertainer with a Muslim identity has been asked to step aside for additional scrutiny. Actors Aamir Khan and Irrfan Khan have had similar experience. So has the Canadian-Indian writer Rohinton Mistry, a Parsi, who once cancelled a book tour of the US soon after 9/11 because he felt he was being needlessly profiled. Other Indian visitors, not necessarily Muslims, have felt singled out.

The incident comes days after a US government panel, gratuitously in the eyes of many Indians, panned New Delhi for its "inadequate protection of religious minorities," even as the US President and Secretary of State lavished praise on Indian democracy on the occasion of the country's Independence Day on August 15. It also comes on the heels of the flap over security procedures former President APJ Abdul Kalam has been subjected to in violation of protocol.

But there is an American side to the story too. US officials who have spoken to this correspondent on the subject in the past feel that some Indian visitors are needlessly huffy about routine security procedures, and there is a broad cultural mismatch or misunderstanding between the two countries in their view of rules and authority. India, one official said, has too much of a ''VIP culture'' that gives some people a false sense of privilege and entitlement that does not sit well in a world of ever increasing security threats. Even minor delays and inconveniences are exaggerated and conflated into major protocol breaches by some Indians.


The conversations took place during the kerfuffle over then Defence Minister George Fernandes' visit to the US, when he said a ''pat down'' was frequently described in the Indian media as a ''strip search.'' The official also said the US VIP list was much more restrictive and even Senators and Congressmen underwent security screening. In the US, except Presidents (who usually travels on Air Force One), former Presidents, and Cabinet principals, there's no VIP treatment to others - as former vice-president Al Gore has experienced more than once. In one recent incident, an airline employee who helped Gore circumvent security screening at the Nashville airport was pulled up and the former Veep was brought back to go through security, which he did willingly and without making a fuss.

For now though, the cry has already gone up in India for ''pay back'' and subjecting US VIPs visiting India to the same treatment as the Khans say they get in US. Even senior government ministers have jumped into the fray. ''I am of the opinion that the way we are frisked, for example I too was frisked, we should also do the same to them,'' Information and Broadcasting Minister Ambika Soni told a news agency. Others have suggested the ''Brazilian model,'' where Brazilia adopted similar security protocol as Washington, including photographing and fingerprinting visitors. Khan himself is said to have joked that Angelina Jolie must be subjected to the same treatment.

Of course, if Jolie or Clooney or Pitt (or Congressmen and Senators) are subjected to such treatment, it is unlikely we would ever hear about it -- since they seldom make a to-do about such things. But then it is even less likely that they would be subjected to such a welcome, given the Indian mix of VIP culture and Athithi Devo Bhava - even at the risk of imperiling security.


[Procedure:]

What happens at a US port of entry (POE)

Inspection at a US Port of Entry: What to expect/What do CBP officials do?

* Upon arrival at the POE you must present your passport and other required documents. CBP officers will review these to determine whether to allow you to enter the US.

* Your first encounter with CBP officers will be at a primary inspection station where they ask foreign nationals questions to determine their identity and nationality.

* If they decide to admit you the CBP officer will also determine how long you will be allowed to stay in the US, and in what status you will be admitted.

* CBP officers review passports, visas, and other supporting documents of each and every foreign national arriving at a US POE. The CBP officers also compare fingerprint records and name check databases for recent derogatory information, ask questions about the foreign nationals general qualifications for the visas they have, review the Form I-94 Arrival and Departure Record (or, for Visa Waiver travelers, Form I-94W).

What Kind of questions do the CBP officers ask?

CBP officers at US POEs will ask you questions to determine the true intent of your trip to the US. Inspections Officers are trained, and have the experience to back up their training, to identify if a foreign national has a pre-conceived intent behind their trip to the US, i.e., they are looking to see if you are actually coming to go to school or for a job interview when you say you are coming to visit Disneyland. If an officer is not convinced with your initial statements, they may ask for additional supporting documentation be allowing you to enter the US.

CBP officials - their power and authority - what they can do?

CBP officers have complete power and authority at the POE. It is up to their discretion to conclude whether or not a foreign national is eligible to enter the US. It is only after a CBP officer stamps and dates the I-94 form, places an admission stamp in the foreign national's passport, and the foreign national passes through the inspection station that the foreign national is admitted to the United States.

Secondary Inspection - what leads you to a secondary inspection?

If the first CBP officer that a foreign national meets feels that the inspection requires additional time for review to determine a foreign national's eligibility, the officer may refer the foreign national for a "secondary inspection." This secondary inspection is a much more comprehensive review, and can take several hours to complete. Generally a foreign national referred for secondary inspection is not considered to be "admitted" to the United States.

What generally happens in a secondary inspection?

In secondary inspection, CBP officers will ask a foreign national more detailed questions about their travel plans for the US. Foreign nationals may even be asked to produce additional identification and other documentation in order to determine their actual identity and purpose of their visit to the United States. The foreign national and their belongings may also be searched, and the foreign national may be required to give a full set of fingerprints.

Any person, foreign national or person with a claim to US citizenship and presenting a US passport, may be sent to secondary inspection if the CBP officer has reservations about admitting him to the United States. A person may also be sent to secondary inspection if there is a possibility the person is smuggling contraband or violating any other customs or immigration regulations, or federal law in general.

Edited by ShadowKisses - 16 years ago
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Posted: 16 years ago

Originally posted by: mz.gigglez

maybe bcuz as a muslim myself we r fed up of this discrimination. They are extremists in every religion. But they do have to do security check on us muslims only? Honestly its pathetic. If they want to do a security check I dont have a problem but every time we go to an airport that's ridculous. And im saying this out of personal experience. Thank God it's not as bad in Canada. The last time we were in States they stopped my brother for a whole day because his name matched with god knows who. Maybe they should start compensating us for every false security check hahaha I wish!

i can understand that... but honestly, this does not justify making this an issue that will cause more hatred and more ill will towards the west... how would that solve anything...?
and SRK is a wordly man and he has always spoken wisely in this matter... hence, i am disappointed...
i know it can be a terrible experience for many, but many other people, specially sikhs also get stopped because americans can't really tell the difference so wearing a turban too can get one into trouble...
also desis too, because they're 'brown' (dare i use the term here)....
LOL... they won't and can't, i guess... can they... but really, they are doing their jobs... and every time we've missed our flight, they always do apologize and say it is routine procedure and sorry for the inconvenience... my husband always says that he is more scared of being stopped back home than he is here... 😊
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Posted: 16 years ago

Originally posted by: Gaganjot.S

I totally agree!!!
It is not about being a muslim or having the surname of khan...
sooo many people go through it ..
and yes i am a sikh as well.
Having to go through so many security checks while wearing a turban and having a kirpan .. which is our Guru's nishaani. ..
still we understand the risk factors and understand Safety of the citizens is important as well.



Yep, I personally havent been checked for wearing a turban cause i have cut hair...but my mama-ji is a sardar and he told me he got checked once. He also said that you have to be understanding and cooperative with the security officers or they'll suspect you even more. Another sardar had been checked(along with some more people ; non-indians/muslims) and out of all of them he was found with drugs in his Turban. Now THAT is truly disgraceful to our religion. They say they are a pure sikh *amritshak* but they are smuggling?

Do any of you guys really want a man smuggling drugs and not be caught?


Edited by Jess. - 16 years ago
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Posted: 16 years ago

A part of the article i found interesting:



But there is an American side to the story too. US officials who have spoken to this correspondent on the subject in the past feel that some Indian visitors are needlessly huffy about routine security procedures, and there is a broad cultural mismatch or misunderstanding between the two countries in their view of rules and authority. India, one official said, has too much of a ''VIP culture'' that gives some people a false sense of privilege and entitlement that does not sit well in a world of ever increasing security threats. Even minor delays and inconveniences are exaggerated and conflated into major protocol breaches by some Indians.






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Posted: 16 years ago
^^ exactly... it's been snowballed for no reason...!!

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