Dealing with Predators like Rajiv - Page 3

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Posted: 12 years ago
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He is a creep. He will only do chance pe dance.

But sana is stupid too. She doesn't want to talk to him, fights with him and then gives him a personal clothing item which she claims is her favorite color!!

It is a good lesson in not only avoiding creeps but also letting a girl know that she shouldn't give mixed signals.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: gbala9

Good post, and very good points.

It is often the so called harmless seeming types that can surprise you. Also another trait is they always tag themselves as 'friends', give loads of attention to gain trust, slowly start emotionally manipulating and before you know it make a move and the victim is left wondering if he/she is at fault or did they give wrong vibes.


U have said it perfectly!!

Manipulation is his key technique.

Ugh! I just hate him!! Why is he still around the cheapo.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: axeion


I think Sana is just in that stage of life where she loves the attention. Be it Vishal, Rajiv or Aashka, she's almost their first priority and she goes back to them always. Karishma on the other hand treated her equal, which did not go very well with Sana. I think both Sana and Rajiv are equally responsible for the fiasco this forum is talking about.

@TheBoss - Nice post, and I hope each one of us reading it implements it in their own lives (if not done already). It somewhere goes hand-in-hand with Hadey's post on where to draw lines in a relationship/friendship. As important as it is to say NO to the other person, I feel it is equally important to realize what we want out of that relationship/friendship.



Sana does like getting attention and flirts a lot, just like any young woman. She is not a bad person or wh**e as some people make her out to be. She just hasn't learned discretion in her flirting yet. One of the important things we learn as we mature is the difference between 'healthy' attention and 'unhealthy' attention. A little bit of flirting and teasing is harmless. Being touchy feely and cuddly with some friends can feel nice and be fun. Most good people know the limitations and don't push it. Unfortunately, there are some people out there who take flirting to mean more, who take advantage of closeness. Sana too will learn it to someday. I think we all do learn the hard way, it's the only way the lesson sinks.


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Posted: 12 years ago
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Very well said. I feel the same about rajiv..no offence to anyone. I used to be neutral for him but he gives me creeps lately. I would have rather appreciated if he had confessed that he is falling for Sana and would want to date her or something outside the show like Santosh rather than hum acche dost hain blah blah..that is very much like a predator. Dil me kuch aur muah me kuch and also girl like Sana can be manipulated and exploited very easily. She is a nice girl but needs to learn to draw the line.

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Posted: 12 years ago
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This is one of the best post. For what reason your post was blocked I don't know. From now on I should read your posts with some amount of attention. I used to read your posts just like any other posts.

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Posted: 12 years ago
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Nice post. Predators/abusers are indeed someone one trusts or someone in position of authority. However in case of Rajeev-Sana it's hard to envisage a predator-victim situation. Sana Khan to me seems more like a good friend to Rajeev🤢🤢 marred with jealousy and insecurity. She reprimands and bicker him for paying attention to Karishma. She is more of an enabler than helpless victim. She has been in this entertainment industry long enough to realize Rajeev Paul's intentions. Yet she chooses to stay and continue her friendship with him (maybe for the sake of game). She has proved time and again she hates when people refuse to give her attention (Vishal refusing to dance, Niketan yawning, Rajeev talking to Karishma etc).
PS: My post is based on update for today and from previous episodes. I have not seen today's episode so will edit my post after watching.
As for in real life it is toughest to deal with someone in position of authority and the only way sometimes is unfortunately quit the job.
Edited by saloni111 - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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I don't know why...I'm thinking of this now


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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: Petition

Back in university I had a friend who displayed all the signs.

Signs
- He was touchy and feely like Rajeev.
- He appeared harmless like Rajeev.
- He acted over smart with some people. He was a "doormat" with others.
- If you didn't speak to him then he tried to make you feel "guilty".
- If you tried to maintain your distance then he would abuse you.

In short he seemed harmless/the "go-to" guy/the trigger was his constant emotional blackmail + manipulation + touchy/feely habit.

I also remember the time when someone asked me out. He threatened the guy to stay away from me or else... He was furious with the other guy and he was furious with me. He was concerned as "a brother" (his words).

I never gave him any ghaas. He realized that none of his attempts were working on me and we stopped talking.

To be honest I never thought he was a predator until today. I found his behavior really strange, but he always appeared harmless that he never struck me as a predator. We have this false impression of predators as the macho guys when in fact it could be the harmless guy next door.

They tend to make us feel guilty. The tend to act like the victim. They tend to act like we are misunderstanding them. When we feel guilty they take advantage of us.

The problem with Sana is that she feels guilty very easily. He makes us her feel guilty. She is convinced "This is Rajeev. He is harmless. Bechara hai Rajeev itna bura nahin hai..He helps me out..." so she gives up and starts talking to him.


Im glad that you were able to realise that; that is exactly my intention to bring out the evils from their closet. You are definitely not the only one here; you are just brave enough to admit it -- we all have such characters in our real life, relatives, friends, neighbours, co-workers.

Now that you were able to identify it; you will be careful and keep your guard up if you ever bump into this person again (not that I wish that upon you in the slightest).
Edited by TheBoss - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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This kinda Topics r v needed to make every1 b aware of such Predators esp in virtual world where everything goes superfast between he msgs & chats you give out more than needed with some1 acting nice & calling themselves ur friend only to tke an oppurtunity to sly predator! Girls r more gullable to emotions thats they are played by emotions! And sometimes you see jelose ones who acts nice but only maintains enimity! Spot them & keep them away!

@theboss(thank you for starting this topic) @petition(Signs u mentioned described sum1 I knew), thanks for sharing Signs to b cautions of!

Most sexual abuse cases r by the ppl who gained trust to come close & misuse the trust, they usually prey for ones who wouldnt say about it anywhere! Suprisingly manytimes its some1 close to fami or within fami & In survey most child offenders cases its revealed that!

About Sana too even if shez 25yr old he mindset of still a teen. I feel sorry for her for whats happening with her in bb6! Its going to hurt her knowing how rajeev friendship has made damage! She doesnt have her guards up which she must & keep away from unnecessary advances! Today morning when whn I read articles of kiss I was shocked to see her give lenage to rajeev pervert but thing is shez being played & smrtly!
Edited by DiviNitya - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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I am really glad that you opened such an important topic. Such people are very dangerous.. no tthat they do any bodily harm but they do a alot of emotional harm.
I have seen such people, married and use thier married in an "unhappy" relation as a weapon upon emotional people.. they play the card as victims, loveless, hurt and show as if they are scarificing so much to keep an relation which is bringing them only hurt.. the bother person starts to feel sorry towards such beings and slowly these men make the other person whom they call friend jump arounf thier fingers. These things can be disaster ... I agree thye are Predators and very cunning for thier own good. That does not mean that they are very successfull in real life, they may be too proud to work or lazy.
For a women it is very important that they identify such people for these people will ruin thier emotional life soo much that it can leave scared forever.
Coming to Rajiv, he is definately living in illusion of self praise. And good that Sana has atlast looked into the curtains and see what he is leading too ... I am sure once Rajiv goes out he will find some other "Sana" younger, good looking and emotional!!!

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