Why shouldnt PM win if Shilpa Shetty did? - Page 3

You have got to be kidding!!!!

Originally posted by: kaushikbasu

The situation has become different for the reason that there was the allegation of racial undertones in the bullying, hence not only the Indians but the whole Asian community united alongwith many other people who were either facing similar problems or wanted to prove that UK as an equal society not encouraging any form of racism. Hence Shilpa was able to garner a lot more votes than she could have had she been just bullied.

I agree with u that there were racial undertones and it probably was one of the reasons that shilpa won...but at the end of the day..bullying is bullying and should not be supported no matter what..

Originally posted by: blue-ice

I agree with u that there were racial undertones and it probably was one of the reasons that shilpa won...but at the end of the day..bullying is bullying and should not be supported no matter what..

I was just going to type that blue_ice!

Originally posted by: shellily

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Even their "nice way" of trying to have ppl take deep breaths nad give them an understanding viewpoint is nothing but a I know better than you perspective.

Exactly, I found that very patronizing. No wonder Mehak walked off.

Originally posted by: kaushikbasu

The thing is it is too early in the season that she has done almost everything, now if she does not garner enough lime light through out, she can be ousted in during the final laps. The problem is she is never in control of the situation, she only reacts to it, with other problems in hand as Mehek and Amar, POB group's sole target is not POM any more.

Yes, but that's good in a way bcoz up to now it was one sided. If more ppl are targeted by a group, they will also unitedly fight perhaps.

PB has an unfair advantage as she has good friends from outside with her in the show.

Originally posted by: -Moderator-

More than bullying i would call it harassment that is a form of discrimination based on her mental status. Bullying usually is cruel, initimidating and humiliating act which is not the case here.

Even thouogh mishra received opportunities to clarify her stand, she has chosen not to do it in the right way. Apart from Bedi, no one really has targetted her. Others were influenced by bedi for a brief period of time but otherwise they also have their own reasons to claim mishra is negative ( like laxmi / mehak or shakti for example with that cooking issue)

Shipa on other hand conducted herself pretty well. If mishra really wanted to outburst her emotions, she could have done it in right way. Her answer to bigg boss where she said housemates should be scared of her was little weird. And she did have company of amar and couple of others so she wasn't really left alone all the times.

What housemated did initially to mishra was def wrong but at the same time mishra also does throws attitude and does not mix up well with everyone. So like juhi said this was like "action-reaction" kind of case.

If at all mishra can be compared with someone, then it would be KRK in season 3.

I kind of vaguely remember how he was alienated by all housemates and rohit used to bitch about t him everywhere to the point where KRK lost his control and threw that bottle. Similarly Mishra just lost it and broke the broom !

YOu are right on so many counts MOderator and you know I felt the exact same way and didnt understand why PM was behaving the way she was earlier. I thought here ppl go again supporting some butdameez person like Dolly Bindra (who I didnt understand why ppl last season were supporting beyond the TRP aspect).

But after seeing BB for a few more days I realized that at that point BB may not have been showing the whole picture. They were only showing the outbursts without what lead to it. The fights wud just abruptly start. THe bad thing about PM is that when she is annoyed the whole world is her enemy and this aspect she should REALLY work on. She alianates sympathizers by acting this way. But I think PB's connection with BB may have been instrumental in trying to show PB in a better light initially - which is why only half the actual occurences were being showed. But I think beyond a point even BB had to give up as the crew must have realized the extent of PB's personality and there was no other option than to let viewers see it - as that is the way PB is 95% of the time. And only after seeing PB's actions and behavior did I personally start sympathzing with PM...as I think most of the viewers have done.

BTW Moderator...when you first commented on my post, before reading only I thought what smart funny comment MOderator has put on "my" thread...as I've read the hilarious but cool real comments you put when some thread heats up...😊😊😊😊😊

Originally posted by: shellily

YOu are right on so many counts MOderator and you know I felt the exact same way and didnt understand why PM was behaving the way she was earlier. I thought here ppl go again supporting some butdameez person like Dolly Bindra (who I didnt understand why ppl last season were supporting beyond the TRP aspect).

But after seeing BB for a few more days I realized that at that point BB may not have been showing the whole picture. They were only showing the outbursts without what lead to it. The fights wud just abruptly start. THe bad thing about PM is that when she is annoyed the whole world is her enemy and this aspect she should REALLY work on. She alianates sympathizers by acting this way. But I think PB's connection with BB may have been instrumental in trying to show PB in a better light initially - which is why only half the actual occurences were being showed. But I think beyond a point even BB had to give up as the crew must have realized the extent of PB's personality and there was no other option than to let viewers see it - as that is the way PB is 95% of the time. And only after seeing PB's actions and behavior did I personally start sympathzing with PM...as I think most of the viewers have done.

BTW Moderator...when you first commented on my post, before reading only I thought what smart funny comment MOderator has put on "my" thread...as I've read the hilarious but cool real comments you put when some thread heats up...😊

Originally posted by: -Moderator-

If at all mishra can be compared with someone, then it would be KRK in season 3.

I kind of vaguely remember how he was alienated by all housemates and rohit used to bitch about t him everywhere to the point where KRK lost his control and threw that bottle. Similarly Mishra just lost it and broke the broom !

Originally posted by: -Moderator-

LOL..Honestly speaking i dislike both of them. Both are aggressive ladies, the only difference is that bedi is verbally aggressive and mishra is physically 😛 Mishra is not the kind of girl who would live peacefully in any group either. If someone would bulley or harass Rageswari then I will def have some sympathy but not with mishra kinds of.

But when i looked at a clip from big switch (her other reality show), i noticed that she exhibited the same behavior there. Even in that show mishra was rebelling against everyone ganging up against her, being isolated, yelling , shouting and what not . And in bigg boss she is now again showing up the same pattern. What does that indicate? Clearly she has done same thing on TV before which probably brought her in limelight and worked well in her favor. In case of shipa, rather then opting for physical violence (which is against rules of the game), she intelligently handled the situation while staying in limits of the game.

I hate dolly bindra kind of people and rather like someone like mandeep who hasnt lost her temper in any situation yet. I know we all outburst once in a while but if we opt for physical violence or agreesion, then it only indicates that we are not in normal state of mind 😊 And thats the major difference between shilpa and mishra.

Anyways like you said, hope mishra wins. I hardly care who wins the show as I don't really follow any of the housemates once show is over.

About bedi being shown in positive light, I dont think BB will do that. In initial episodes there was nothing really happening except for bedi-mishra tussle. So BB had to show what they witnessed otherwise show would have been boring then. BB must be happy for whatever bedi is doing on the show.

Moderator behaving in a negative manner on all the UTV Bindass programs are actually advocated...like I mentioned somewhere before that's their USP - to show vicious and garish behavior and I'm sure people appearign on any shows on that channel are encouraged to behave badly...so I wudnt say what is shown is entirely reflective of the person in real life.

But having said that - even I dont support Dolly Bindra type of ppl and I didnt even support PM earlier... I think seeing the constant bullying made me change my mind as I started feeling sorry for PM.

I only thought we were being shown only one side of the equation earlier on when PM was being shown in the bad light, becoz if you see it again you will see that hey just showed the fights abruptly starting - nothing leading to it or around it. While now they kind of show more of what happens around PM when an incident occurs - which is why we are now judging it differently.

But on the more balanced side like you say - Yes I will be all for Mandeep or even Shakti winning - not Rags becasue this is a game and you got to play it - you cannot just appear and smile and be nice and expect to win.

I like how Shatki and Mandeep strategize and also how they behave in tumultuous situations without loosing their cool. I am against no one being cunning and playing the game - that's what this show is about ... but yeah if you do it in a classy way it's even better.

Sadly PM is too emotional and letting emotions rule her actions and she is not really playing any game. I hope someone makes her realize at some point that she does have fan support and she should use it.