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Posted: 10 years ago
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dudes bb and the celebs didn't make fun of sonali infact they supported her and made ali understand tht it wasn't a joke to touch a grl and say it was a joke and then bitch or deny it.
things tht were pointed out-

1. no one from the bedroom gang supported ali this time y becuase it was parineeta whereas last time they were mocking sonali and saying she invited it.
2. arya who said he was wrong but dil ka saaf was mocked at and told don't BS now u are angry since its pari where was this logic when it was sonali.
3. sallu told ali keep ur hands to urself
4. ali was told- if what u did was a joke then we too can do it in a joke...so watch it...women's modesty is not a joke.
5. ali became so silent and cornered totally withdrawn after the incident- sallu pointed to him if once for sometime u face this and this is ur halat think u guys do this to gautam everyday in and out what he must be going through.

all in all if sallu had asked him directly the guy wudhave denied it again and said it was joke and blah blah blah...i think it was perfect way to make him realize the seriousness of the issue...now the scumbag will keep his hands to himself.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: shinningstar

dudes bb and the celebs didn't make fun of sonali infact they supported her and made ali understand tht it wasn't a joke to touch a grl and say it was a joke and then bitch or deny it.

things tht were pointed out-

1. no one from the bedroom gang supported ali this time y becuase it was parineeta whereas last time they were mocking sonali and saying she invited it.
2. arya who said he was wrong but dil ka saaf was mocked at and told don't BS now u are angry since its pari where was this logic when it was sonali.
3. sallu told ali keep ur hands to urself
4. ali was told- if what u did was a joke then we too can do it in a joke...so watch it...women's modesty is not a joke.
5. ali became so silent and cornered totally withdrawn after the incident- sallu pointed to him if once for sometime u face this and this is ur halat think u guys do this to gautam everyday in and out what he must be going through.

all in all if sallu had asked him directly the guy wudhave denied it again and said it was joke and blah blah blah...i think it was perfect way to make him realize the seriousness of the issue...now the scumbag will keep his hands to himself.

If that was the reason great. But it did not translate that way to most people, you might call me dumb but I at least did not see it that way as most other if this was so, it had to be conveyed more clearly.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: Atomicbomb


BB should not have made a joke about this.

However It has already been cleared up. Ali was sitting on the bed with Upen and Sonali. He pinched Sonali knee as a joke. He thought they were all close.

Sonali said she is not close to him to do that.

He apologised. Let's not persecute him because he made a bad judgement

I think he is just trying to fit in and get cordial with the housemates. Maybe why he was always singing songs around them. Piggy backing on Pritams back which is over the top behaviour aswell.

He may be afraid in being alienated and trying too hard to fit in.

sorry honey but here they showed how Sonali actually is she just did all that drama for the sake of revenge her nomination was what irked her n she played Ali's stupidity in her benifit if she was that humiliated then what she was doing in the yard while Ali was cleaning use some brain harassment Is that for real ? Actually It was more of aena dekhana sort of thing n I glad they she need to know people are not fool there to believe all her nonsense on the the name of girl she can't play her dirty games n all you know how she is n what she did in the task with D and K n also with soni while nomination task so it was quite clear the Ali incident happened same day he nominated n Ali is so irritating


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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: kaushikbasu

If that was the reason great. But it did not translate that way to most people, you might call me dumb but I at least did not see it that way as most other if this was so, it had to be conveyed more clearly.

bad editing i guess...but thts wat i felt...the parts wheres all u pointed out the mistakes were not highlighted by bg music oranything hence they went missed and the main msg got lost and landed up looking like bb was making fun of the entire thing.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: shinningstar

dudes bb and the celebs didn't make fun of sonali infact they supported her and made ali understand tht it wasn't a joke to touch a grl and say it was a joke and then bitch or deny it.

things tht were pointed out-

1. no one from the bedroom gang supported ali this time y becuase it was parineeta whereas last time they were mocking sonali and saying she invited it.
2. arya who said he was wrong but dil ka saaf was mocked at and told don't BS now u are angry since its pari where was this logic when it was sonali.
3. sallu told ali keep ur hands to urself
4. ali was told- if what u did was a joke then we too can do it in a joke...so watch it...women's modesty is not a joke.
5. ali became so silent and cornered totally withdrawn after the incident- sallu pointed to him if once for sometime u face this and this is ur halat think u guys do this to gautam everyday in and out what he must be going through.

all in all if sallu had asked him directly the guy wudhave denied it again and said it was joke and blah blah blah...i think it was perfect way to make him realize the seriousness of the issue...now the scumbag will keep his hands to himself.


I understand your viewpoint but that is not how it translated to the masses. Just check on twitter. People are so gullible. They are saying Sonali made false accusation and Parineeti has right to defend her family friend blah blah blah. Wrong wrong message to send to stupid people. Also victims will be afraid to speak up for fear of being ridiculed and invalidated. They needed to be absolutely clear and doing this under guise of joke was bad judgement call. This is a very serious issue in patriarchal India.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: Picasso9


I understand your viewpoint but that is not how it translated to the masses. Just check on twitter. People are so gullible. They are saying Sonali made false accusation and Parineeti has right to defend her family friend blah blah blah. Wrong wrong message to send to stupid people. Also victims will be afraid to speak up for fear of being ridiculed and invalidated. They needed to be absolutely clear and doing this under guise of joke was bad judgement call. This is a very serious issue in patriarchal India.

yes right maybe we should spread this msg so those who didn't understand ...do understand...and bb needs to change the editing team
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: jayamtrivedi



First of all I am not a Sonali fan. For the record I am nobody's Fan or Hater . I enjoy the show as a drama which each player is trying to spice up.

Secondly about Ali conduct not being harrasment . news flash if u touch a girl even on her hand or face without her permission be it even your wife it is considered harrasment .

Sonali has no backbone , she indeed has lost the plot but that being said no girl deserves to be touched against her will and then being made a joke of by so called celebrities. My point was why was the footage that is old was replayed, have they played for any other contestant ? in my understanding an act like this should be condemned at least on television so a correct message gets passed on the public. Instead BB is adopting a tactic of maligning image of Sonali .


What Sonali did, I do not support her.

I felt the issue was dragged. Just like you I have seen this show from first day. I never saw Ali as a guy who would try to get close to a woman. Sonali's actions goes so wrong to a man.

Why no one ever tried to "harassed" Karishma, Mini, Soni, or Suku???? because their actions are not giving wrong signal to guys. They have drew a line.

Did Gautam or Upen asked Sonali before they hug her or touch her???? I do not think so. She is being overly friendly with everyone, if she does not like someone than she turn whole thing into an issue.

The way Gatam was pulling her or pulling her face, it was less like gentlemen and more like an animal. She did not thought that as "harassment"??

I do not believe Sonali. I do not think so even Salman believed her because he would have brought that up. He has supported her when it was needed to, like Diendra and Sonali's fight.




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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: EmAsh


What Sonali did, I do not support her.

I felt the issue was dragged. Just like you I have seen this show from first day. I never saw Ali as a guy who would try to get close to a woman. Sonali's actions goes so wrong to a man.

Why no one ever tried to "harassed" Karishma, Mini, Soni, or Suku???? because their actions are not giving wrong signal to guys. They have drew a line.

Did Gautam or Upen asked Sonali before they hug her or touch her???? I do not think so. She is being overly friendly with everyone, if she does not like someone than she turn whole thing into an issue.

The way Gatam was pulling her or pulling her face, it was less like gentlemen and more like an animal. She did not thought that as "harassment"??

I do not believe Sonali. I do not think so even Salman believed her because he would have brought that up. He has supported her when it was needed to, like Diendra and Sonali's fight.






Do you know that people justify rape using the same argument about how the woman gives wrong signals? Just for your information. Thought you should know.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: niknid



Do you know that people justify rape using the same argument about how the woman gives wrong signals? Just for your information. Thought you should know.




Exactly none of the good girls get teased only the uber bad ones get raped . Let me tell u a similar incident that happened to one of my colleagues daughter . She is 11 yrs old a child who doesn't understand girly things and is a complete Tom boy . Mostly wears shorts as she has skin condition which worsens with fabric cover. Recently they moved back to India and I am talking about so called metro . A 17 yrs old boy who has grown by in the apartment bldg started stopping her way. first the girl didn't understand then it escalated to touching , the poor girl asked around friends who gave her options Hillariuos read "call him Bhaiya " , " always be with you parents " and the best one " wait till he is gone from the corridors. She tried everything and then spoke to her Mom who was furious and marched to the boy's mother. That stupid lady had the guts to say look what your daughter is wearing , she speaks to all the boys in apartment complex and my son is not after her she is after him. All the neighbors stood by the boy, thankfully they were on rent and so moved from the apartment. if this is not harrasment then what is. In US if you are convicted for harrasment ( touching inapporpriately) you are considered a sex offender and wherever you live the police and people know what you did. I guess this is the only way to stop this whole thing. Best part is that if an offender moves from one town to other the local school inform parents about him in advance .
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Posted: 10 years ago
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It all comes down to the patriarchal society where the boy can do no harm. It's always the girls fault. That's why women are abused and harassed for not producing a male heir etc. Females as mothers don't teach their male children right from wrong, mother in laws blame DIL and it goes on. Females are expect to adjust in every sphere of life.

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