What is Karan Kundra's problem? - Page 2

Originally posted by: SP2684

I guess his problem would be that he likely feels betrayed. As would some of the others. Vishal (very smartly I agree), made the choice to screw over the jungle waale to ensure his entry into the house.

Given the jungle waale’s efforts regarding the map and making the road - in which Vishal’s contribution was apparently minimal in comparison - they are bound to feel betrayed.

And with Karan - he tends to be transparent about what he’s doing so far - even to Nishant and Pratik. And thus far the jungle waale have played as a unit, barring Afsana going off piste. Vishal has chosen a different approach this time. Vishal isn’t wrong - but it’s ridiculous to expect, IMO, that the others aren’t going to have an issue with this, or that his choice isn’t going to have a fall out. Every choice will.

Pratik pissed Shamita off to the extent that she gave her way her tukda of the map - and Pratik and Nishant still felt betrayed. Yahaan toh the jungle waale have done nothing to invite this, so really it’s a no brainer.

ETA - of course Shamita is going to say Karan is overreacting - given her obvious AF bias, that too is a no brainer 😆

Originally posted by: BearNaNa

If I'm not wrong, only one team can enter the house right? Or everyone can enter the house? (Didn't follow the last few epis closely, so don't have an idea). I know everyone worked together to get the map, but as now it is a team task..they need to play their own game. If ishaan won the map, then I'm sure he wouldn't have shared it with all. Sab apne bahreyme soch rahehai and it's natural. Karan thought this is a Hum Saath Saath Hai movie.

My understanding (and it could be wrong - BB tasks can be confusing 😆) was that the winning team of this task can enter the house. I think everyone was clear on that.

The part where they felt betrayed would be how Vishal chose to win - I.e. not by winning the task fairly, but rather by promising Shamita that he’d screw over his fellow jungle waale with the map and road.

I think Karan did think that until they got to the house, it was supposed to be hum saath saath hain as far as they jungle waale are concerned. He’s said as much and played that way too so far. So to me - it makes perfect sense for him to feel betrayed and question Vishal.

Had the situation been reversed, Vishal would have felt the same IMO, and I’d have said the same.

Problem wasn't the fact that Vishal made a pact with Shamita to enter the house. Problem was that he put the pieces of the map on the line for that. Those pieces don't belong only to him. The junglewaasis have put in a lot of effort and mehnat in gathering the pieces for the last 10 days or so and Vishal put that on line. It's unfair on the junglewaasis and I don't see why Karan shouldn't have a problem with that. The situation is similar to Shamita handing over a part of the map to the junglewaasis whereas the team plan was to hide them.

Vishal played a very nice game yesterday, but I feel he's in an over committing phase right now and when the time comes, he might under deliver and get stuck badly in the situation😆

Originally posted by: riddhan

wat r they thinking BB as Hum Saath Saath Hai movie that they will enter together in the main house🙄🙄 karan aisa bandha nahi lagta jo sab ko le ke chalta gai he looks aisa bandha jo khud ko leader samjata hai and Karan khud double dholki hai so Vishal isn't wrong in being a double dholki though abhi tak usne map dia bhi nahi hai n koi akele nahi khel raha not even karan in junglewasi.

yes this is hum sath sath hain nei .. but wadaa karke mukar na jaou ..simple fact.

ur opinion. but abhitak woh jo jo kia sabko sath lekei kia, akela khudke liyee nei. he not even took a spoon of kheer , guavaa alone, shared with everyone. jo jo game plan banaya khudke liye nei pura jungle walon kay liyee kia tha

Originally posted by: BearNaNa

How is it dhoka? Everyone here has come to play an individual game. Sab ko leke khelna, sabko leke ghar ke andar jaana..What is this? They can't rely on Karan for everything, ek na ek din they have to play separately, iss game me woh shuru hogaya.

The problem was it was a team effort to make the map and this guy just went to the opposition and promised that if he comes in, he won't let the others make the map,.

And he kept bragging that the others wont be able to finish the map because he and teja were the only ones who know how to complete the map. and it irritated everyone because vishal was not involved at all. It was the biscuit boys who fought every time to get the map from the cave. it was teja's idea to start stitching the maps and it was donal and teja who spent every night stitching the map. Toh Vishal has just come in and taken all the credit for it. It would have made a little sense if donal or teja or even some of the boys bragged a little. But the guy who didn't contribute much should not take credit for the things that others did.

Originally posted by: opsora2090

yes this is hum sath sath hain nei .. but wadaa karke mukar na jaou ..simple fact.

ur opinion. but abhitak woh jo jo kia sabko sath lekei kia, akela khudke liyee nei. he not even took a spoon of kheer , guavaa alone, shared with everyone. jo jo game plan banaya khudke liye nei pura jungle walon kay liyee kia tha

Originally posted by: BearNaNa

How is it dhoka? Everyone here has come to play an individual game. Sab ko leke khelna, sabko leke ghar ke andar jaana..What is this? They can't rely on Karan for everything, ek na ek din they have to play separately, iss game me woh shuru hogaya.

Game kay liye he is not upset . i dont need to say in details here soazn has described nicely .

Originally posted by: Soanz.19

Problem wasn't the fact that Vishal made a pact with Shamita to enter the house. Problem was that he put the pieces of the map on the line for that. Those pieces don't belong only to him. The junglewaasis have put in a lot of effort and mehnat in gathering the pieces for the last 10 days or so and Vishal put that on line. It's unfair on the junglewaasis and I don't see why Karan shouldn't have a problem with that. The situation is similar to Shamita handing over a part of the map to the junglewaasis whereas the team plan was to hide them.

. and another thing vishal promised them n was part of the whole pact.. now he has flipped n started playing with shamita.. ghar mein jate apne dam pe jate why he will have to pact with shamita by ditching rest ppl . ? sabka din ataa hain .. karan's fault is he trusts them blindly which he should not

Originally posted by: Soanz.19

Problem wasn't the fact that Vishal made a pact with Shamita to enter the house. Problem was that he put the pieces of the map on the line for that. Those pieces don't belong only to him. The junglewaasis have put in a lot of effort and mehnat in gathering the pieces for the last 10 days or so and Vishal put that on line. It's unfair on the junglewaasis and I don't see why Karan shouldn't have a problem with that. The situation is similar to Shamita handing over a part of the map to the junglewaasis whereas the team plan was to hide them.

Vishal played a very nice game yesterday, but I feel he's in an over committing phase right now and when the time comes, he might under deliver and get stuck badly in the situation😆

Exactly. People are not able to trust vishal because he makes promises to everyone. He gives long long bashans about being fair and then had tried to sell out the junglewasis behind their back. so many are sure that he ll at least break his promise to one person.

Originally posted by: riddhan

omg😂😂😂 wadaa like seriously kal nomination mein agaye na sab apne ko bachayenge 😂😂😂 wo sab ko saath ke ke chla as aur kuch option bhi nahi tha he needs alliance not the other way round. Plan jo banaya obviously akele nahi kar pata aur sab ne saath dia uska wo bhi yaad rakho kheer aur guava 😂😂 wasn't sab fruit laaye wasn't Afsana brought bread too

dude they were in group to build map line .. jab ek group mein pact hota hain toh they should not ditch that before completing ..which is moral and ethcs .. baki agee jake sab ek dusre ki khilaf hongei but for now the situation was diff

ha afsana v laya cos that was for team . guava , kheer was just an example .. . wohi bolne ki koshish kar rahi hoon, jab koi ek team mein hote hain should support on that time.. jab koi kisiko dost mante hain agar woh ditch kare kisiko v bura lagega .

Originally posted by: Priya12000

Exactly. People are not able to trust vishal because he makes promises to everyone. He gives long long bashans about being fair and then had tried to sell out the junglewasis behind their back. so many are sure that he ll at least break his promise to one person.

I can totally see this happening. He's put a lot in line to get into the house. I have a gut feeling that he might mess up the situation with N&P and they would burst on Shamita. So it would be like neither the junglewaasis trust him nor the main ghar ke log, except Jay & Shamita😆 He has put in a lot of effort from Day 1 to create a bond with Shamita. Kahin uske chakkar mein baaki logon ko kho na de yeh banda😆