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Posted: 4 years ago
#21

Originally posted by: SimsNaiken


@bold YES exactly that!!! Cause they are now no longer comfortable. So they aren’t giving her consent to joke around like that anymore.

If they thought it was a joke and harmless why would they tell her off? When it started to get awkward and cringe worthy they said put a stop to it.


If a girl smiles at a guy in a bus somewhere and they flirt a little — innocent no harm done. Now he starts wanting more Is she supposed to give in? No she has the right to say flirting thak theek tha but I don’t want more.

Yes Abhinav Nalla hai. Sasta vakeel idiot stupid all of the things. Whatever you want to call him. And YET still he has the right to say no.


when it comes to consent and harassment NONE of these things should matter.

He changed his mind he doesn’t want to have that joke running between them anymore. He’s entitled to change his mind and he’s not obligated to Rakhi at all.

She can’t do what she’s doing.

For the record I’d say the same thing if it was Rahul, Ali, Nikki whomever Rakhi was taking liberties sans consent with.


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I haven't called him all that so don't quote me wrong here and assume things. Now don't say it was in general coz you quoted me 🤔


Obviously everyone do have a right to say NO, but I did not agree to the subject of the post which said "Rubinav didn't encourage Rakhi" which is a false narrative, they did take in all the fun even though it was cringe af. They shouldn't have encouraged her in the first place knowing how seriously she takes things for example the character Julie!


Good luck to them with how they deal with Rakhi.

Edited by IFrozenl - 4 years ago
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Posted: 4 years ago
#22

Originally posted by: SimsNaiken

I find it so disturbing at how many comments I’ve read where people are blaming Abhinav and Rubina for Rakhi crossing her line.


I have sung this jaap before but here goes again —- Consent!

Farzi Scenario — Abhinav could have told Rakhi I’m leaving Rubina for you. Let’s go and sex machaye in the bathroom. Heck they could have made out and gotten hot and heavy and then all of a sudden IN THE MIDDLE OF THE MAKE OUT SESSION he could have said No stop I don’t want to anymore.

IT IS STILL HIS PEROGATIVE to say No! And Rakhi can’t do shit to him or about it.

No means No sirf movie ya ladkiyo ke liye nahi hai.... it works for man, woman, gender binary any body anywhere!

You are not entitled to anything if your crush one day suddenly stops flirting with you. He/She/They are not obligated to you for anything.


Abhinav and Rubina were always taking it as a joke — iska tho mudda bhi bana tha WKV pe. Rakhi was told that they think it’s just another character she’s playing. They don’t take you seriously.

There is a fine line between flirting and behaving like a psycho....


Claiming Abhinav deserves it cause’ he was allowing her to flirt with him is like saying women deserve to be cat called and ogled at simply cause’ they smiled at some guy. Hasi tho pati is a very regressive line. (For men and women both).


Abhinav has been visibly uncomfortable after the media kiss (which AGAIN I am baffled was not made into a issue — no one in the conference there said anything. They just laughed it off). He has repeated told her to stop when she goes over.

I’m sure I’ll get to hear comments like Abhinav Nalla aadmi game ke liye husband wife ne use kiya etc etc. 🤷🏽‍♀️

For the love of all that is sane — You can hate contestants as much as you want but please stop disregarding harassment simply because it’s happening to someone you don’t like. 🤦🏽‍♀️

And if you’re still confused about consent watch this video.


https://youtu.be/u7Nii5w2FaI


Shabash. Aap consent ki expert lagtee ho. So can you please enlighten.

1. How many times have Abhinav and Ruby taken consent of contestants when they pushed them.
2. How many times have they taken consent when they defamed them. Like calling someone chauvinist

3. How many times have they taken consent when they touched them - even brushed them by walking alongside... consent is consent right ? No touch means no touch.


there is such a thing as a game show / fake reality - that too a tamaasha show. U may not agree with what are the limits to be defined. but to take an incident and scream rape is ok? To have a POV and call all men as chauvinists that they can’t handle powerful women?

Kya aap ko lagtaa hain kee jab fake women card use hota hain uss wajah se actual women issues get weaker not stronger?

and as far as consent goes .... naada kheechna is not a fun thing but it’s not rape :). Let’s admit the difference too before we start speaking of physical acts of intimacy and lectures to jantaa on consent ?

aur haan. Hum jantaa hain. Not the BB contestants in the show doing any of these acts :). Please don’t get conphused and send videos telling jantaa please kuch seekh lo 😂😂😂.

Bhaley hum unpad gawaar ho jeenko Nobel prize naheen meela to make a cycle. But woh bhee humaree marzee hain. So to teach us. You need our consent :). Thop naheen saktey by force to teach us... no ?


Over to you to enlighten us all further on topic of consent without our consent :)



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Posted: 4 years ago
#23

If Rubina and Abhinav tolerated Rakhi, are they to be blamed for her going full psycho? It's like people who get stalked and harassed just because the other party happens to like them. We blame the victims for enduring/ignoring all the early signs and put the onus of checking the harasser's behaviour on them. Strange, isn't it.


You may have the opinion that they reaped the benefits of Rakhi saving Abhinav, but unless they specifically asked Rakhi to do so, they cannot be held responsible for what Rakhi thinks will benefit her by doing so. Again, it's akin to your stalker saving your life or doing something nice for you, whether or not you are aware of their obsession for you, and then compel you to feel a sense of obligation toward them or worse still, have the world tell you "hey, but you benefitted from them".


Saying that nada pulling is not rape is a callous statement at best! It's akin to pulling a girl's dupatta i.e. outraging her modesty. Also, please don't belittle the concept of consent in sexual or non-sexual ways. At the most, what you received was unsolicited advice. Going by the examples shared of your understanding of consent, each time you get into a train or a bus, you need to stop and ask the person before you if they are ok with you boarding the vehicle, because consent. Each time a person is told to do something (either by someone in power, authority or not) at home or at work or anywhere else, can they turn around and say "I did not give you consent to tell me, so I will not listen to you"?

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Posted: 4 years ago
#24

Wow

Edited by hasini009 - 4 years ago
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Posted: 4 years ago
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Rubina when Rakhi said initially — main apna husband churaane aayi hoon.. aapko koi problem to nahi agar Mai uske saath love lapaata karoon

Rubina— absolutely not Rakhi.. pyaar to baatne de badhta hai..

This was the time when Rakhi was captain, she saved Abhinav from nominations and was officially the member of their group

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Yeah, I agree. Abhinav never once initiated the love stuff. Rakhi started it and it was cute and fun at start. How the heck was he supposed to know she would go too far? If Rubina had objected from the beginning, she would be called controlling and authoritative 😕

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: SimsNaiken

I find it so disturbing at how many comments I’ve read where people are blaming Abhinav and Rubina for Rakhi crossing her line.


I have sung this jaap before but here goes again —- Consent!

Farzi Scenario — Abhinav could have told Rakhi I’m leaving Rubina for you. Let’s go and sex machaye in the bathroom. Heck they could have made out and gotten hot and heavy and then all of a sudden IN THE MIDDLE OF THE MAKE OUT SESSION he could have said No stop I don’t want to anymore.

IT IS STILL HIS PEROGATIVE to say No! And Rakhi can’t do shit to him or about it.

No means No sirf movie ya ladkiyo ke liye nahi hai.... it works for man, woman, gender binary any body anywhere!

You are not entitled to anything if your crush one day suddenly stops flirting with you. He/She/They are not obligated to you for anything.


Abhinav and Rubina were always taking it as a joke — iska tho mudda bhi bana tha WKV pe. Rakhi was told that they think it’s just another character she’s playing. They don’t take you seriously.

There is a fine line between flirting and behaving like a psycho....


Claiming Abhinav deserves it cause’ he was allowing her to flirt with him is like saying women deserve to be cat called and ogled at simply cause’ they smiled at some guy. Hasi tho pati is a very regressive line. (For men and women both).


Abhinav has been visibly uncomfortable after the media kiss (which AGAIN I am baffled was not made into a issue — no one in the conference there said anything. They just laughed it off). He has repeated told her to stop when she goes over.

I’m sure I’ll get to hear comments like Abhinav Nalla aadmi game ke liye husband wife ne use kiya etc etc. 🤷🏽‍♀️

For the love of all that is sane — You can hate contestants as much as you want but please stop disregarding harassment simply because it’s happening to someone you don’t like. 🤦🏽‍♀️

And if you’re still confused about consent watch this video.


https://youtu.be/u7Nii5w2FaI


All this explanation will go waste ...people have blind hatred towards Rubina and Abhinav. So they will paint them as villains no matter what.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Nice post . Rakhi is not entertaining , BB brought her as entertainer it seems n started shoving it on viewers n encouraged her . BB protecting her n saving her from nominations n carrying her .

Edited by Cool_N_Cold - 4 years ago
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Posted: 4 years ago
#29

It's expected that people know their boundaries and overstep the mark, even if they were encouraged in jest and fun, that doesn't mean you lose your own brains and forget whats up. Simple as that

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Posted: 4 years ago
#30

Originally posted by: Nachiketj


All this explanation will go waste ...people have blind hatred towards Rubina and Abhinav. So they will paint them as villains no matter what.


I swear. I’ve just gotten quoted about something I am debating if I should ignore or explain further.

It burns my apple cause I work/volunteer my time with abused women in our local Women Shelter and I cannot begin to tell you how much it triggers me when I see this narrative.

I might not be able to stop myself. Le sigh


Edited by SimsNaiken - 4 years ago

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