The Deep Down Narrative

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Posted: 5 years ago
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So, before I begin this topic, I would like to apologize to the fans who might get heard by what I am going to say. Please regard this post as a general analysis of how the show portrays contestants and not as a personal attack on the contestant or even the fans.


There is a Netflix show called Bojack Horseman which revolves around the life of the washed-up actor, Bojack, who is mostly a jerk to people around him. Throughout the show, he's shown as this person who knows that he has been a jerk, but who'd want validations from his friend to know that deep down he's a good person. His friend, Diane, said something along the following lines: I don't think I believe in 'deep down ... It's not who you are underneath, it's what you do that defines you.


Now, I have been thinking about how Shukla is portrayed by guests. "Dil ka bura nahi hai", "Tumharay saath bht khush rehta hai, Sana" "kuch logical reason hoga" etc. And it got me thinking why are we forced to agree with this deep down narrative. For example, after Shukla abused Asim's family for hours, Rohit Shetty came and justified his behavior. Or, when he was being a jerk to Sana, Vikas Gupta told her that he'd be hurt, etc.


I know Shukla is a popular actor and has a huge fan following. And in our entertainment industry, men usually get a free pass. But, why do we need this deep down narrative? Why can't the people we love be reprimanded for the wrong they do? I mean, everyone commits mistakes and everyone should get the opportunity to learn from their mistakes. Why do we have to turn people into a saint?

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Posted: 5 years ago
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if god forbid something happens to the girl, the same Deep Down narrative gang will change their stance from positive to negative 'see, I've warned you beforehand'

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Great catch!


Shukla's every positive attribute is served to us by somebody else. We never see him acting upon it.

People are seen cleaning up his image with nonsense like , He means well, he is kind hearted, is a good friend and so on. If it is so, then how come no one can see it?

Kashmeera did this. Devoleena changed her tune as well, while in the house she literally had a breakdown because of him and had to go inside the bathroom and yell out profanities to feel better. But now suddenly he is not such a bad guy?


Same on SM. Post an old DSDT picture of Shukla, because the current ones rouse a different kind of emotion in people, and call him one man army, Mr. Akela, the protective lover, the team player, and it gets flooded with likes.

Meanwhile on the show, he mostly rages like a bull, hurls abuses and insults to his friends and enemies alike, laughs maniacally after passing particularly nasty comments and is often seen either sleeping or lying on the bed or sofa while ordering Arti and Sana around.

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Love this post, and love the BoJack reference! ❤️


Totally agreed, Shukla's positives are always served to us. Meanwhile, Asim, Rashmi, and even to a large extent Sana's positives just come through the screen. Huge difference.

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Word.


Also, Paras has been used for this too. I’m convinced of it. Paras is way more smarter than Shukla (whose actually pretty thick imo). And Paras has twisted things countless times now, he either says things in a clever way to show Shukla in a good light, or helps to deviate from one of Shukla’s kaands.

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: BaylorBee

Great catch!


Shukla's every positive attribute is served to us by somebody else. We never see him acting upon it.

People are seen cleaning up his image with nonsense like , He means well, he is kind hearted, is a good friend and so on. If it is so, then how come no one can see it?

Kashmeera did this. Devoleena changed her tune as well, while in the house she literally had a breakdown because of him and had to go inside the bathroom and yell out profanities to feel better. But now suddenly he is not such a bad guy?


Same on SM. Post an old DSDT picture of Shukla, because the current ones rouse a different kind of emotion in people, and call him one man army, Mr. Akela, the protective lover, the team player, and it gets flooded with likes.

Meanwhile on the show, he mostly rages like a bull, hurls abuses and insults to his friends and enemies alike, laughs maniacally after passing particularly nasty comments and is often seen either sleeping or lying on the bed or sofa while ordering Arti and Sana around.


I didn't expect that from Kashmeera, tbh, especially when Krishna was so cold towards Shukla. This SidArt thing was plain BS. Another irritating thing about Shukla is that he is not apologetic about his behavior - I remember when Vikas was telling him - during the connection week - to not to abuse Asim's father, he was trying to justify his action.


I think part of the problem is that we look at actors on the basis of the characters they portray on the TV so it gets difficult to shake off the positive image we have on our mind - maybe.

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: NepaliArtist

Love this post, and love the BoJack reference! ❤️


Totally agreed, Shukla's positives are always served to us. Meanwhile, Asim, Rashmi, and even to a large extent Sana's positives just come through the screen. Huge difference.


I was touched by how Sana said that her 'payback' is given a negative spin. These contestants have been treated unfairly.

Bojack is very close to my heart. Do you follow the show?

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: born-leader


I was touched by how Sana said that her 'payback' is given a negative spin. These contestants have been treated unfairly.

Bojack is very close to my heart. Do you follow the show?


Haven't seen the new episodes yet, but yes big fan of the show. Just waiting for BB to be over so I can watch other things lol.

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Great post and the Bojack comparison is brilliant!

There is an obsession for perfection especially among celebrities, so much so that we find it difficult to accept that the person who plays an adarsh husband on television can be a misogynist off it. It shouldn't be surprising, since they're playing a character after all. We prefer to project their screen character traits onto their real life.


I suppose this is why BB fans like the show. The pressure of the show & the length of it tends to bring out the real person behind the celebrity, shedding the image they carefully maintain outside.

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Posted: 5 years ago
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It is shukla or anyone else,such people hurt others to no end and get away with "man ka saaf hai"

"He didn't mean it".

Deep down toh everyone is going through some or the other thing but that doesn't give you a license to behave in any manner.

One of the reason i have stopped watching daily saop. their male lead behave in any manner they feel like and get away with tragic past.the logic and behaviour only their makers know better.


People should advise shukla type people to bring out this deep down good hearted persona rather than kuch bhi karo end main hum aake bolenge "dil ka saaf h"

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