what is homophobic??? confusing!!! - Page 2

Originally posted by: shrutiud

literal meaning would be phobia of people who are attracted to same sex... I don't think they are against Rohit or any gay or lesbian person... I don't think anybody be it sree or kV or any contestant is not speaking to Rohit assuming he is a bi... so how is any of them is homophobic... yes some made fun of him... ppl make fun of other persons looks, choice of clothes, sexual preference etc. etc. they can be called ignorant n dumb not homophobic...calling a guy as girly... wats wrong in that??? ppl call girls as tomboy who acts like guy and people are fine with it but you can't call a boy girly... like seriously???? how is all these homophobic???? the thing is people have lost the meaning of homophobic in this current scenario where you try to be socially correct rather than morally correct...
I don't think there was any issue to be questioned... in that matter atleast...even if someone says that he or she swings both ways... how is it homophobic??? those who call it homophobic are kind of insulting the people who actually swings both ways... what's wrong in that if they did... if calling someone straight is ok then why is it wrong to call someone gay ??? everyone is eq
ual... isn't it what everyone should promote...

I guess I m the socially confused person who doesn't understand some of the "so called" socially acceptable things...

Originally posted by: DejaPoo

+1 to all the Bold. Thanks for this post.

If you actually believe in equality, then being called a Homosexual, Transexual etc etc should not offend you. Because the moment you take offense to it, is when you have already made a distinction or discrimination in your mind.

When the secret revealing task happened, KV and Deepak's reaction to Romil's secret could be classified as Homophobia, because they were asking him to stay away or something on those lines.

What happened after Rohit's entry is not exactly homophobia to me. Yes I agree that, one's sexuality is that person's business and it is completely upto he or she as to what they have to do with it and it really isn't other people's business to speculate over someone's sexuality. But what can you do, we as a specie are a nosy and ignorant species as such. So whatever happened that night was ignorant for sure, but not exactly homophobia.

The day we stop using these terms as an offense or cuss word, and moreover stop taking offense over these terms, is probably the day we'll make some progress as humans. And for that we need education. People need to understand why somethings are wrong, and not just because the majority says so.

good to know...

Originally posted by: shrutiud

literal meaning would be phobia of people who are attracted to same sex... I don't think they are against Rohit or any gay or lesbian person... I don't think anybody be it sree or kV or any contestant is not speaking to Rohit assuming he is a bi... so how is any of them is homophobic... yes some made fun of him... ppl make fun of other persons looks, choice of clothes, sexual preference etc. etc. they can be called ignorant n dumb not homophobic...calling a guy as girly... wats wrong in that??? ppl call girls as tomboy who acts like guy and people are fine with it but you can't call a boy girly... like seriously???? how is all these homophobic???? the thing is people have lost the meaning of homophobic in this current scenario where you try to be socially correct rather than morally correct...
I don't think there was any issue to be questioned... in that matter atleast...even if someone says that he or she swings both ways... how is it homophobic??? those who call it homophobic are kind of insulting the people who actually swings both ways... what's wrong in that if they did... if calling someone straight is ok then why is it wrong to call someone gay ??? everyone is eq
ual... isn't it what everyone should promote...
I guess I m the socially confused person who doesn't understand some of the "so called" socially acceptable things...

Yes people have failed to understand Homophobia. I ahve witnessed this during last season and they still take a dig at us this year too for supporting a person whom as per their dictionary was a homophobic. I have been called hypocrite for calling out against KVB this year. I am not saying KVB or Shree is a homophobic. No. What they did was mocking. But yes I will bajaao them in every possible way for one similar mistake of theirs as my fav was bajaooed last time for teh very same reason.. It's just that I am returning the favour with interest.

Originally posted by: Deviant_Pixel

If you make fun of someone who you perceive to be feminine you are infact mocking them therefore asserting that being such a person is a weakness. As for commenting on someone's sexuality, would you comment 'omg look at that guy he is straight!' so sexuality should not be a topic, they are not freaks in a museum. Its like saying omg I met a gay today, how idiotic is THAT! You wouldnt go to a straight person and ask them ' hey I heard you're straight? , is it true'. Such things have a long way to progress in India anyway.

Calling a girl a tomboy is not a big deal because historically such girls have not been mocked as much as men have in the reverse. You cannot compare making fun of someones clothes or looks ( which is wrong) to a community that has long been harassed especially in our country , get realll😆

The reason why people are so politically correct and use the term homophobia is because for a long time gay people have been made fun of , bullied and even killed - there is a history there. For a similar reason why if anyone says something about an African American or an Asian there is hue and cry because there is a history of abuse and enslavement. If someone made fun of you as an Indian like 'oh she smells of curry haha' would you think that is fun or racist because to white people that might just be funny and not perceived as racism.

That's why the issue is escalated because if it isn't now then people will never change their behaviour which IMO is completely right.

I understand about mocking... I agree Sreesanth was mocking Rohit but how is it homophobic... get the difference mocking n being phobic are two completely different thing... if they would have said it in demeaning way I might have agreed with you but I don't think any of them looked down upon him or pointed at him n said you are gay or a bi...or whatever...

Originally posted by: Deviant_Pixel

If you make fun of someone who you perceive to be feminine you are infact mocking them therefore asserting that being such a person is a weakness. As for commenting on someone's sexuality, would you comment 'omg look at that guy he is straight!' so sexuality should not be a topic, they are not freaks in a museum. Its like saying omg I met a gay today, how idiotic is THAT! You wouldnt go to a straight person and ask them ' hey I heard you're straight? , is it true'. Such things have a long way to progress in India anyway.

Calling a girl a tomboy is not a big deal because historically such girls have not been mocked as much as men have in the reverse. You cannot compare making fun of someones clothes or looks ( which is wrong) to a community that has long been harassed especially in our country , get realll 😆

The reason why people are so politically correct and use the term homophobia is because for a long time gay people have been made fun of , bullied and even killed - there is a history there. For a similar reason why if anyone says something about an African American or an Asian there is hue and cry because there is a history of abuse and enslavement. If someone made fun of you as an Indian like 'oh she smells of curry haha' would you think that is fun or racist because to white people that might just be funny and not perceived as racism.

That's why the issue is escalated because if it isn't now then people will never change their behaviour which IMO is completely right.

now thats one hell example of assumption

Originally posted by: Nachiketj

Yes people have failed to understand Homophobia. I ahve witnessed this during last season and they still take a dig at us this year too for supporting a person whom as per their dictionary was a homophobic. I have been called hypocrite for calling out against KVB this year. I am not saying KVB or Shree is a homophobic. No. What they did was mocking. But yes I will bajaao them in every possible way for one similar mistake of theirs as my fav was bajaooed last time for teh very same reason.. It's just that I am returning the favour with interest.

I am Being quite straightforward here. I know I will be attacked but that's fine. I am atleast saying out openly.

I appreciate your view... this is generally a basic topic not for or against anyone...cause I saw so many topics for the homophobic thing...n I kinda disagree with tht...last time also I was not tht active... who was your fav last time who got bashed...

Last year, someone had started this 'homophobhic' trend and everyone follows it. They tagged Shilpa as homophobhic when she actually was good friends with the only gay person, Sabyasachi.

The issue this year is on a far lower scale than what went on last season IMO - it's homophobic mocking when you're mocking someone for their sexuality, because of it - and it happened in spades last year: slang like gud, meetha were used, people were referred to as aadha mard because of their sexual orientation, lust was placed between two men - one of whom is straight, being bisexual was referred to as a kami/flaw and so on and so forth.

Comparatively, this season - while some of the jokes, making fun have homophobic undertones, they're not outright slurs. That said - it is in bad taste, and it is offensive, and none of their business.

And for the record, one can interact with/be friends with gay people and still be homophobic - take Luv last year - he was an admitted homophobe, and was friendly with Sabya. Shilpa, despite being friendly with Sabya, referred to him as less than a full mard due to sexuality.