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Posted: 16 years ago
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Hey fizzles :) It is perhaps the first time, but I completely disagree.
For one, Armaan knows that his family is full of lunatics, perhaps this is the reason why he broke away from them in the first place. He hasn't met his brother in ages, it's an unavoidable fact. How can he trust his brother after so many years (so presumed), and so easily go back to live in the house he probably hasn't even seen in a long time ?
A system's flaws can only be rectified from the inside, but they can be seen better from the outside. Armaan, having been away from his family for a long time, knows it's flaws and shortcomings. He knows that they treat women like shit, he knows that for them, a woman is nothing more than child-birth machine, who is useless if she can't concieve.
Inspite of all of this, where does the 'moral obligation' arise from ? His first and foremost obligation right now is to help Bharti out. Period. He can if he wants to, perhaps he will have to face alot of flak from his family for that, but love is the other name for pain, right ? Even if he believes that Bharti is Omkar's wife, even if he considers himself only to be her devar, even if he wants to keep their relationship formal and restrictive, he should help her out for the simple reason that she does not want to be in that house, she is not obligated to, and certainly not obligated to live with junglee people.
It is said that you are equally a criminal if you let a crime unfold before your eyes and do nothing. Bharti is being raped infront of his eyes. Not physically, but mentally. And it needs to be stopped, regardless of whatever turmoil he maybe going through, because as a human being, the only moral obligation he bears is towards humanity, and if he doesn't stop this, then he no better or superior to Omkaar or his family members.
As evident, Omkaar is capable of treating Bharti in the worst way possible, yet Armaan doesn't mind it because apparently Omkaar 'loves' her ? Actions speak louder than words, and clearly Omkaar actions contradict his words. Who knows, had Bharti not been as defiant as she is, Omkaar would have already tried to get her in bed or worse, already raped her.
Heck if I see my brother treating a woman like this tomorrow, I'll defenitely try to do something about it, even if I hate that woman with all my might. It's nothing heroic or unrealistic, it's simply a reflex that I would act upon.
I'm sorry, but I cannot side with Armaan no matter what. He can atleast try to help Bharti. He's doing NOTHING. šŸ˜•
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Posted: 16 years ago
#12
It was a very touching scene beautifully performed by aamir and ragini... I cud feel the pain as if it was happening to myself or my best friend... tears were flowing through my eyes and i usually dont cry...wonderful wonderful performance... ..................
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Me agree with you...
Aamir and Ragini just light up the screen,be it comedy or an emotional scene...
Even though I felt like crying seeing them like this,there presence and acting made me clap fo them.!
Btw loved your post its very well written...:)
The song they played in the arbi scene suited it perfectly.!
Hope this torture ends soon for all of us..

Tc
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Posted: 16 years ago
#14

Originally posted by: -Neetz-

Hey fizzles :) It is perhaps the first time, but I completely disagree.

For one, Armaan knows that his family is full of lunatics, perhaps this is the reason why he broke away from them in the first place. He hasn't met his brother in ages, it's an unavoidable fact. How can he trust his brother after so many years (so presumed), and so easily go back to live in the house he probably hasn't even seen in a long time ?


A system's flaws can only be rectified from the inside, but they can be seen better from the outside. Armaan, having been away from his family for a long time, knows it's flaws and shortcomings. He knows that they treat women like shit, he knows that for them, a woman is nothing more than child-birth machine, who is useless if she can't concieve.


Inspite of all of this, where does the 'moral obligation' arise from ? His first and foremost obligation right now is to help Bharti out. Period. He can if he wants to, perhaps he will have to face alot of flak from his family for that, but love is the other name for pain, right ? Even if he believes that Bharti is Omkar's wife, even if he considers himself only to be her devar, even if he wants to keep their relationship formal and restrictive, he should help her out for the simple reason that she does not want to be in that house, she is not obligated to, and certainly not obligated to live with junglee people.


It is said that you are equally a criminal if you let a crime unfold before your eyes and do nothing. Bharti is being raped infront of his eyes. Not physically, but mentally. And it needs to be stopped, regardless of whatever turmoil he maybe going through, because as a human being, the only moral obligation he bears is towards humanity, and if he doesn't stop this, then he no better or superior to Omkaar or his family members.


As evident, Omkaar is capable of treating Bharti in the worst way possible, yet Armaan doesn't mind it because apparentlyOmkaar 'loves' her ? Actions speak louder than words, and clearly Omkaar actions contradict his words. Who knows, had Bharti not been as defiant as she is, Omkaar would have already tried to get her in bed or worse, already raped her.


Heck if I see my brother treating a woman like this tomorrow, I'll defenitely try to do something about it, even if I hate that woman with all my might. It's nothing heroic or unrealistic, it's simply a reflex that I would act upon.


I'm sorry, but I cannot side with Armaan no matter what. He can atleast try to help Bharti. He's doing NOTHING. šŸ˜•



I agree whole heartedly, I'm still angry that he isn't doing anything still after watching how Omkar is treating Bharti.
I understand his pain and feelings but still how can a person watch a woman being treated that way? Especially when he is claiming he is in love with her. Oh well I'll just hope everything will be fine.
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Posted: 16 years ago
#15

Originally posted by: -Neetz-

Hey fizzles :) It is perhaps the first time, but I completely disagree.

For one, Armaan knows that his family is full of lunatics, perhaps this is the reason why he broke away from them in the first place. He hasn't met his brother in ages, it's an unavoidable fact. How can he trust his brother after so many years (so presumed), and so easily go back to live in the house he probably hasn't even seen in a long time ?
A system's flaws can only be rectified from the inside, but they can be seen better from the outside. Armaan, having been away from his family for a long time, knows it's flaws and shortcomings. He knows that they treat women like shit, he knows that for them, a woman is nothing more than child-birth machine, who is useless if she can't concieve.
Inspite of all of this, where does the 'moral obligation' arise from ? His first and foremost obligation right now is to help Bharti out. Period. He can if he wants to, perhaps he will have to face alot of flak from his family for that, but love is the other name for pain, right ? Even if he believes that Bharti is Omkar's wife, even if he considers himself only to be her devar, even if he wants to keep their relationship formal and restrictive, he should help her out for the simple reason that she does not want to be in that house, she is not obligated to, and certainly not obligated to live with junglee people.
It is said that you are equally a criminal if you let a crime unfold before your eyes and do nothing. Bharti is being raped infront of his eyes. Not physically, but mentally. And it needs to be stopped, regardless of whatever turmoil he maybe going through, because as a human being, the only moral obligation he bears is towards humanity, and if he doesn't stop this, then he no better or superior to Omkaar or his family members.
As evident, Omkaar is capable of treating Bharti in the worst way possible, yet Armaan doesn't mind it because apparently Omkaar 'loves' her ? Actions speak louder than words, and clearly Omkaar actions contradict his words. Who knows, had Bharti not been as defiant as she is, Omkaar would have already tried to get her in bed or worse, already raped her.
Heck if I see my brother treating a woman like this tomorrow, I'll defenitely try to do something about it, even if I hate that woman with all my might. It's nothing heroic or unrealistic, it's simply a reflex that I would act upon.
I'm sorry, but I cannot side with Armaan no matter what. He can atleast try to help Bharti. He's doing NOTHING. šŸ˜•

Hey Neetz :D
I completely respect your POV. We are all entitled to hold our own opinions and I'm glad that you posted your opposing views. I do understand where you are coming from and I can understand your annoyance with Armaan. I was highly vexed earlier on but after seeing the strain the situation has put on him, I really do feel sympathy.
I do agree that he should be doing more. But I think it's the family loyalty that is keeping him away. By no means am I saying that a person should support their family, even if a family member is in the wrong. We all should think as individuals and at the end of the day, do what is right. But I think right now Armaan is still in a confused state of mind and is torn between his family and Bharti. I do believe that at some point Armaan will take a stand.
I hope I don't come across as being defensive over Armaan 😳 because I am not trying to defend his past actions. I've just tried to understand his POV and the conundrum that he is facing. I still have some faith in his character and for that reason I am willing to wait and see what he will do to rectify his mistake.
Perhaps I am getting emotional, since I have been feeling low recently :( But I guess I love romantic stories that have substance. And for me, Armaan & Bharti fit the bill. In the bigger picture, both of them have been given too much pain to handle.
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: Rin03



I agree whole heartedly, I'm still angry that he isn't doing anything still after watching how Omkar is treating Bharti.
I understand his pain and feelings but still how can a person watch a woman being treated that way? Especially when he is claiming he is in love with her. Oh well I'll just hope everything will be fine.

Hello :)
Thanx for your post. I understand and appreciate that a lot of people are still angry with Armaan. I'm not going to contradict myself- I was angry, not any more though. I won't say much because I've already mentioned why. So I wouldn't want to be repetitive.
As you said in the last line of your post, Let's just hope everything will be fine!! I hate these heartbreaking episodes. I want things to be like they were before. Everything has changed so dramatically.
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: sweetytweetypoo

Hello Pooja.
Thanx for your comments, it's very much appreciated. And I share your sentiments :D

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Posted: 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: Zoya_01

Totally agree with you dear

ma anger on Armaan is melting slowly
He is also in same state as Bharti is
He also has lost his love
Yeah the Kabhi alvida na kehna sequence brought tears in ma eyes
it was just awesome
Hats off to Aamir and Ragini
They are awesome actors
Not only you but all of us will stop watching BB if the creatives even think of not bringing ArBi together at the end
WE WANT ARBI TOGETHER
Take Care
Zoya

Hello Zoya :D
I agree with you. I haven't come across any member yet that didn't feel something after watching the kabhi alvida sequence. Whether you're an ArBi fan or not, one has to appreciate Aamir and Ragini. It was quite touching. Yes, methinks there will be a huge boycott if the creatives kill ArBi's love. And trust me, I will be out in a flash
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: violet_231

It was a very touching scene beautifully performed by aamir and ragini... I cud feel the pain as if it was happening to myself or my best friend... tears were flowing through my eyes and i usually dont cry...wonderful wonderful performance... ..................

Yes, it was a wonderful performance indeed by both Ragini and Aamir. They portrayed the pain of their respective characters very well. Even I was teary-eyed during that touching scene.
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: 1994

Me agree with you...
Aamir and Ragini just light up the screen,be it comedy or an emotional scene...
Even though I felt like crying seeing them like this,there presence and acting made me clap fo them.!
Btw loved your post its very well written...:)
The song they played in the arbi scene suited it perfectly.!
Hope this torture ends soon for all of us..

Tc
Wafa

Hello Wafa :D
I agree. Ragini and Aamir simply light up the screen both with their comic timing and with the emotional scenes that they convey so well. I too just hope that this torture ends real soon :(
Thanx for appreciating my post!

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