How Akbar went from great to not-so-great

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Posted: 10 years ago
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Hiii guys...I was just going thru TOI today n n guess what... I found this... Do check it out people:


N dont forget to read the comments below on that page...they are the best..😆

Frankly I dont know what to say... should I blame the columnist for sparking out the debate or should I blame the CVs for creating ruckus ?? 😆

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Posted: 10 years ago
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Thanks for sharing Anu😊
I too don't wanna comment, my thoughts are offensive in this case🥱
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: dsm123

Thanks for sharing Anu😊

I too don't wanna comment, my thoughts are offensive in this case🥱


IKR ! 😆 anymore will trigger a fight !
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Thanks for sharing this article ! 😊
hmmm...didn't read the comments below the article for fear that I might completely lose my cool😉😆
But I found certain sections of the article very interesting--

Wahi also points out that in the 1560s, when the Mughals were trying to create a bigger state system, the indigenous states, Hindu as well as Muslim, were resisting it. "Akbar was resisted by the Sharqis of Jaunpur, the Afghan sultans of Bengal, the Bahmani kingdom and its splinter states, Gujarat and Malwa " all these were Muslim kingdoms. And some of them resisted for far longer than Mewar. Yet you don't hear the proponents of Hindutva talking about Chand Bibi or Malik Ambar of Ahmednagar sultanate."

he treated defeated Rajputs and Muslims differently. He returned to Rajputs their vatanjagirs (patrimonial estates) and gave them high mansabs in his military bureaucracy. Neither favour was granted to defeated Muslim landed gentry. Akbar wanted the Rajputs to become important shareholders in his successes.

Across the border in Pakistan, Akbar is not seen as a great ruler either. Islamic hardliners there sometimes dismiss him as the "infidel king" for his secular views. All of Pakistan's missiles or weapon systems are named after Babur, Ahmed Shah Abdali, Mahmud of Ghazni or Muhammad Ghori but none after Akbar. (😉No surprises there 😉😆)

A current television serial eulogises Rana Pratap and vilifies Akbar as an ever-scheming, bloodthirsty bigot. Its impact has been such that one blogger says her five-year-old neighbour is yet to study history but already hates Akbar. (Talk about the impact of television ;I hope that blogger made the child understand and see the real picture🤔 )


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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: rinall

Thanks for sharing this article ! 😊

hmmm...didn't read the comments below the article for fear that I might completely lose my cool😉😆
But I found certain sections of the article very interesting--

Wahi also points out that in the 1560s, when the Mughals were trying to create a bigger state system, the indigenous states, Hindu as well as Muslim, were resisting it. "Akbar was resisted by the Sharqis of Jaunpur, the Afghan sultans of Bengal, the Bahmani kingdom and its splinter states, Gujarat and Malwa " all these were Muslim kingdoms. And some of them resisted for far longer than Mewar. Yet you don't hear the proponents of Hindutva talking about Chand Bibi or Malik Ambar of Ahmednagar sultanate."

he treated defeated Rajputs and Muslims differently. He returned to Rajputs their vatanjagirs (patrimonial estates) and gave them high mansabs in his military bureaucracy. Neither favour was granted to defeated Muslim landed gentry. Akbar wanted the Rajputs to become important shareholders in his successes.

Across the border in Pakistan, Akbar is not seen as a great ruler either. Islamic hardliners there sometimes dismiss him as the "infidel king" for his secular views. All of Pakistan's missiles or weapon systems are named after Babur, Ahmed Shah Abdali, Mahmud of Ghazni or Muhammad Ghori but none after Akbar. (😉No surprises there 😉😆)

A current television serial eulogises Rana Pratap and vilifies Akbar as an ever-scheming, bloodthirsty bigot. Its impact has been such that one blogger says her five-year-old neighbour is yet to study history but already hates Akbar. (Talk about the impact of television ;I hope that blogger made the child understand and see the real picture🤔 )



The comments are mostly in support of MP...and they reminded the writer of the Chittor Siege ! But yes...there were some arguments over there too...

Yeah, they are all interesting points... :) The last n 2nd last para are the best for me...😆 all CVs ka kiya karaya
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: ---Anu---


The comments are mostly in support of MP...and they reminded the writer of the Chittor Siege ! But yes...there were some arguments over there too...

Yeah, they are all interesting points... :) The last n 2nd last para are the best for me...😆 all CVs ka kiya karaya


@bold--- Oh...Actually I used to read the comments below the episode videos of MP on youtube...you should see the shit people write over there...it's like, you have been given a platform to air your views and nobody is going to shoot you with a gun for what you write, so write any lame shit you want 🤢it's disgusting 🤢

@red-- true that 😡 at least, before the leap, kuch sense tha akbar-pratap ki rivalry mein...i mean, even then, the phool angle was ridiculous...but still...now toh, akbar ke character ka poora cheer-haran ho gaya hai 🤢
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: rinall


@bold--- Oh...Actually I used to read the comments below the episode videos of MP on youtube...you should see the shit people write over there...it's like, you have been given a platform to air your views and nobody is going to shoot you with a gun for what you write, so write any lame shit you want 🤢it's disgusting 🤢

@red-- true that 😡 at least, before the leap, kuch sense tha akbar-pratap ki rivalry mein...i mean, even then, the phool angle was ridiculous...but still...now toh, akbar ke character ka poora cheer-haran ho gaya hai 🤢


The YT comments are horrible and puke worthy !! Its full of nonstop bashing on both the fronts...!!

CVs ki toh...🤬 I decided to ignore them long back...🥱
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Posted: 10 years ago
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@Rinu and Anu...these cv's are so pathetic😡 like hero must be best and other one must be very bad types Bollywood mentality🥱
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: dsm123

@Rinu and Anu...these cv's are so pathetic😡 like hero must be best and other one must be very bad types Bollywood mentality🥱


Har serial ki yehi kahaani hai re Dhanu... 😭 CVs se kuch bhi expect karna is like patthar pe sir phodna 😭
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: ---Anu---


The YT comments are horrible and puke worthy !! Its full of nonstop bashing on both the fronts...!!

CVs ki toh...🤬 I decided to ignore them long back...🥱


Akbar toh Akbar...I wonder what problem the CVs had with Salima yar...Itni noble woman ko kya banaa kar rakh diya 😲

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