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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: history_geek


^^^

Friends,

Please understand this custom... And those Medieval times..
It may appear cruel.
BUT, It was a Last Ditch attempt by the Ladies to guard their chastity/purity.

Jauhar was the voluntary death on a funeral pyre of the queens and royal womenfolk of Rajputana Forts in order to avoid capture and consequent dishonor, when defeat was imminent.

On several occasions when defeat in such an engagement became certain, the Rajput defenders of the fort scripted a final act of heroism that rendered the incident an immortal inspiration and afforded the invaders only an exceedingly hollow, inglorious victory. In such incidents, the ladies of the fort would commit collective self-immolation. Wearing their wedding dresses, and holding their young children by the hand, the ladies would commit their chastity to the flames of a massive, collective pyre, thereby escaping dishonor at the hands of the invading army.

Jauhar was different from the practice of Sati. Sati was the widow-burning practice on the funeral pyre of her husband, which was forced as well as unforced..But Jauhar is related to high premium set on the honour of womenfolk in Rajput society.

It was practiced along with Saka. At night the Jauhar took Place, and in the morning, the Saka...
Detailed explanation here. > Jauhar and Saka - The Ethos of Rajputana


Thanks for sharing this 😊

So this means that the wives used to save their own respect and jump into the fire. Was it that the women used to get exploited by the king who won the battle and hence they used to commit Jauhar?
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: erikalui


Thanks for sharing this 😊

So this means that the wives used to save their own respect and jump into the fire. Was it that the women used to get exploited by the king who won the battle and hence they used to commit Jauhar?



You're Welcome. :))

About your question..
Yes.. To avoid consequent capture/humiliation.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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dont knw about this clearly before...thnks fr sharing d info
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: mystic786

Yes, exactly.


That's mean 😡🤢

The king should only capture the land and the things owned after winning the battle. How can they claim right over the other king's wife? She is not a property but a human.🤢 Because of this, how many women must have committed Jauhar 😭

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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: erikalui



otherwise they became their slave ... well they knew what they lives would be like hell if they didn't do that ... in that case, i think death is better than that

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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: prishna_fan


otherwise they became their slave ... well they knew what they lives would be like hell if they didn't do that ... in that case, i think death is better than that


Yeah

Death is better than to be exploited daily by the kings 😭
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Sadly, that's how it was. The king who defeated another, captured the latter's harem as well, as part of the spoils. Death is much more preferable than being sent to the enemy's harem and definitely the honourable thing to do. Especially for a 16th century royal lady..

Originally posted by: erikalui

Edited by mystic786 - 10 years ago

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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: history_geek


^^^
Please understand this custom... And those Medieval times..
It may appear cruel.
BUT, It was a Last Ditch attempt by the Ladies to guard their chastity/purity.

Jauhar was the voluntary death on a funeral pyre of the queens and royal womenfolk of Rajputana Forts in order to avoid capture and consequent dishonor, when defeat was imminent.

On several occasions when defeat in such an engagement became certain, the Rajput defenders of the fort scripted a final act of heroism that rendered the incident an immortal inspiration and afforded the invaders only an exceedingly hollow, inglorious victory. In such incidents, the ladies of the fort would commit collective self-immolation. Wearing their wedding dresses, and holding their young children by the hand, the ladies would commit their chastity to the flames of a massive, collective pyre, thereby escaping dishonor at the hands of the invading army.

Jauhar was different from the practice of Sati. Sati was the widow-burning practice on the funeral pyre of her husband, which was forced as well as unforced..But Jauhar is related to high premium set on the honour of womenfolk in Rajput society.

It was practiced along with Saka. At night the Jauhar took Place, and in the morning, the Saka...Details here




Whoa!Thanks for this detailed info...😛

Now,I'm really curious to know if Laskhmibai's funeral can be called Jauhar? Or Jauhar is only related to the death of a wife for her chastity after defeat of his husband from any outer invasion?

I am asking this because as you pointed out that Jauhar means the burning of women in the holy pyre for remaining chaste till the death and in Lakshmibai's case,it was something like that only. As,after her fall in the war,the kind warriors of her side took the queen in some cottage and set it on fire so that the English could not get her body or indirectly,we say they did this to assure,she remain pure till her death. It will be kind if someone will answer this to me!😳

P.S.: Sorry,if I sound out of the topic,but I really want to know this. :)

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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: mystic786

Sadly, that's how it was. The king who defeated another, captured the latter's harem as well, as part of the spoils.. Death is much more preferable than being sent to the enemy's harem and definitely the honourable thing to do..



You must have heard of Drauapdi! She was the first woman to object this and to fight for her dignity and feminism against the entire society.
And so,the God himself came to save her.

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