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Posted: 10 years ago
#21

Originally posted by: anuv123

My post was not meant to hurt anybody...all i meant was if they show MP's story as it is..it will turn out to be quite serious as he had suffered a lot of setbacks at least till the haldi ghati war.

Later, yes he re-conquered his entire kingdom.
I also said that all events of his life will be shown that is obvious but what is the harm if they throw in some entertainment in between.

I don't think i have said anything against MP. I reread my post to see why such harsh words are being used and seriously i couldn't find anything wrong. If giving our opinion is wrong in this forum then maybe i am in the wrong place.

I didn't expect such a reaction from most of you. So, i apologize.


I can understand dear that entertainment also is important and I watch it too for the same reason. As of now, the story is going well and I hope that it continues to give us a good story line at least till the haldi ghati war 😊

Don't be upset with anyone's comments and enjoy watching the show 😳


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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: anuv123

My post was not meant to hurt anybody...all i meant was if they show MP's story as it is..it will turn out to be quite serious as he had suffered a lot of setbacks at least till the haldi ghati war.

Later, yes he re-conquered his entire kingdom.
I also said that all events of his life will be shown that is obvious but what is the harm if they throw in some entertainment in between.

I don't think i have said anything against MP. I reread my post to see why such harsh words are being used and seriously i couldn't find anything wrong. If giving our opinion is wrong in this forum then maybe i am in the wrong place.

I didn't expect such a reaction from most of you. So, i apologize.


Dear don't worry you have every right to post your POV anytime in this Forum
I see all the harsh comments and i'm surprise my self cause few days back it was ok for people to have a different POV don't know what happen now.

And i personally don't see the need for members to be so down right rude to the TM
She only post her perspective 😕
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: Paytonlee

To be honest i can handle it. i mainly watch historical shows to see action, training sessions, war, winning,celebration all those stuff. other entertainment areas like romance and saas bahu there are so many serials i can watch for that.

i still watch jhansi ki rani on youtube because of its main focus is on the british-indian. thats where i found my love historical shows. yes it has romance but its doesnt overshadow the war scenes. one of my unforgettable episodes of MP is episodes 23-25 mainly because of its war scenes and how bravely they fought for their rights

Agree with you .. Ndtv ka Show aata tha chandragupta Maurya that was very good example of Historical show .. they also showed love story but in a very limited manner .. they focussed on Chandragupta and Chanakya so I think in BKVMP cvs should focus on Maharana Pratap's warrior and political skills instead of his love life ..and how his wife Ajabdeh supported him .. Pratap was warrior not a lover boy
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Tm, prior to leap they messed up the show, history was distorted and yet no one had any qualms but these days all hell are breaking loose, because the post leap actors are finding their costumes a bit heavy, or because the post leap actors are actually acting.😆

Young Pratap's romance with Ajabde, was that even part of history😆? Ajabde's sister who married Pratap toh is nowhere in the picture, and yet that was part of the history. I mean the point being, dont bother TM, aap enjoy karo, jaise hum kar rahe hai, jisko acha nahi lag raha hai, they know what to know, (or i would hope_ Just report those comments and allow the moderators to deal with them, because when we throw stones in a dirty pile od mud, they in turn ruin our own clothes#)😆


#YawnAtTheHistoryJap as none of them even know the real ABC of Pratap's life!😆
Edited by _innocent_ - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
#25

Originally posted by: atominis

What logic is this?😲

His history involves tough phases so it means it should be sugar coated, swamped down?

Sorry but truth is truth and it has to be faced. Rather it is inspirational how he and his aides never gave up no matter what adverse condition was!

It is shallow to say we only want entertainment and hence shred true history!

It is meant to be learnt from and be proud of, get inspired from. It is not something to run away from!

BTW stop posting wrong info.

People like MP were true patriots. Honestly the high experienced towards working for a noble cause is greater than any routine pleasure in life. This was mantra of Bhagat Singh and his comrades too, who had adopted freedom as their bride, revelled in their struggle and embraced martyrdom.

Everything is not harem drama or romance.

MP was part of establishment of Udaipur, spent better times there though he was very much involved in fortifying the city and devise strategies to win back Chittor. He was a patron of arts, scholarship in various subjects too. Chakrapani was one of the greatest scholars of that time and worked under MP. MP was an ace in architecture also. There is much more to his life than just family drama, romance or even battles. He spent peaceful years post Haldighati too, freed many territories with guerilla strategies.

When I read or watch history of past heroes I feel happy, proud and inspired. I feel more sense of responsibility towards the freedom we have and not to take things for granted. I don't feel weird or turn away face thinking it's too much to handle.

Finally entertainment has wide canvas. Only romance or family drama are not entertainment. Struggle, fight against odds, knowledge, culture, tradition, valour, wins, losses, joys, struggles all encompass entertainment.

If everyone thought this way then TV and films wouldn't focus on any other genre except romantic!

Frankly this was an insult to the great man and his legacy. Better watch romantic shows then instead of looking to turn away from history of the greatest freedom fighter of medieval India!


Hi!! I'm not very regular on the forum but managed to see your post and I'm glad to see it!😊

MP was an extraordinary personality and deserves a major chunk of his admirable history to be shown. A man who was being forced to surrender by the ruler of Hindustan whose vast resources included almost the entire Rajputana(these resources were much more than what Mewar had),did not bend and single handedly protected his motherland against perhaps the entire Hindustan which was a very very difficult task and he succeeded.His steel,principles and patriotism deserve a special mention. I agree his life had its share of ups and downs and struggles but the way he dealt with them can surely inspire many and rightfully so!!
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Actually it's predicted that Maharani Ajabde died only 8-6 years before Maharana Pratap died so no she didn't die at an early age, as she was still around to receive the title of Maharani at the time.

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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: _innocent_

Tm, prior to leap they messed up the show, history was distorted and yet no one had any qualms but these days all hell are breaking loose, because the post leap actors are finding their costumes a bit heavy, or because the post leap actors are actually acting.😆


Young Pratap's romance with Ajabde, was that even part of history😆? Ajabde's sister who married Pratap toh is nowhere in the picture, and yet that was part of the history. I mean the point being, dont bother TM, aap enjoy karo, jaise hum kar rahe hai, jisko acha nahi lag raha hai, they know what to know, (or i would hope_ Just report those comments and allow the moderators to deal with them, because when we throw stones in a dirty pile od mud, they in turn ruin our own clothes#)😆


#YawnAtTheHistoryJap as none of them even know the real ABC of Pratap's life!😆


Hi5 J😆
Love you for this😳
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Posted: 10 years ago
#28
It is very sad to know that such a great warrior had to go through so much pain. But this serial is different from other shows. We want to know history but producers should cut down on the negativity such as those annoying step mother scenes. Those are unnecessary. Too much negativity scenes can bring down the show and keep viewers away from it. There is so much negativity in our real lives, so they should depict the show and celebrate the life of MP in a positive manner. Dal tadka of saas bahu is not required to such extent in this show.
Edited by mgarg75 - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
#29

Originally posted by: _innocent_

Tm, prior to leap they messed up the show, history was distorted and yet no one had any qualms but these days all hell are breaking loose, because the post leap actors are finding their costumes a bit heavy, or because the post leap actors are actually acting.😆


Young Pratap's romance with Ajabde, was that even part of history😆? Ajabde's sister who married Pratap toh is nowhere in the picture, and yet that was part of the history. I mean the point being, dont bother TM, aap enjoy karo, jaise hum kar rahe hai, jisko acha nahi lag raha hai, they know what to know, (or i would hope_ Just report those comments and allow the moderators to deal with them, because when we throw stones in a dirty pile od mud, they in turn ruin our own clothes#)😆


#YawnAtTheHistoryJap as none of them even know the real ABC of Pratap's life!😆


I'm not getting one thing... why everything here is being taken as pre-leap vs post-leap.. frm the view of pulling down the elders? I didn't find anything on this post that can be taken as an attack on the elders.

and dear, since when u r on this forum?.. and how come u came to this conclusion that before leap no one had even a bit of complain against the history being distorted in the show?

Members of this forum criticized CVs even before leap for their blunders in the show here as well as on their official pages.. They didn't even spare PrAja scenes before leap when they felt like CVs are playing with these respective figures of history.. bt it doesn't mean they bashed the actors.



@ TM... dear you hv presented ur POV and I respect it 😊 ..the only thing I want to say is, turning away face from the reality can never be a solution. the legends like MP have marked an era on timeline on their names bcoz of the hardships they faced in life.. hence it should be preferred to admire them for that and should be taken proud of that..

and again, by following history, I do not mean that keep him jumping frm here to there, indulged in the wars.. as it's mentioned here earlier, no doubt he is known as a warrior and he dedicated almost his life for his motherland... bt his life was not limited to only that.. and for that I believe portraying his personal life is not out of place in the show.. specially when his mother and wife were like the pillars of his moral support.. 😊 ..and as there is limited details on his personal life in documents, I can understand they need smthng to link the events and make a logical plot...

But.. Creative liberty in dramatizing is one thing and playing with history is completely a different thing.. and I hv an objection specially where it doesn't make any sense.. it was ok till sending JB away frm palace.. in this way they reasoned why and how DB gained powers and then manipulated US.. bt then.. making her put all the blame on Ajabde and creating rift btwn Pratap and Ajabde was not at all necessary.. if it would hv been for a little while then it would hv been accepted but almost 10 years and Pratap still hv misunderstandings...??

all I want to say is that.. Ajabde has a greater part in MP's life than jst being misunderstood by him... plus, in their attempts to bring a twist to the tale, they messed up with some imp events in their life...


Sorry if I sounded rude anywhere bt I really never intended so... I hv jst presented my take on this as u hv rested urs 😊



..and I request again to others here, plz don't take everything as an offence to elder actors.
Me personally liking Rachana's performance in the show and found Ssharad improving.. and looking forward for more... 😊



Edited by Krupali - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
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TM didnt seem to purposely harm ur sentiments so idk why you cant show some respect in your replies.

in fact, its pretty sad some can't handle a basic love track, after all this is the hindi film tv industry . 😆😆

the show's grandeur is for the masses, not for your individual tastes.

so, if one cannot handle the extra fluff in MP -- then go read a history book perhaps . there are numerous out there, focussing purely on history.
Edited by Mohabbateinn - 10 years ago

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