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Posted: 14 years ago
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The thoughts we think without thinking we thought, and the thoughts we think we're thinking but aren't really thinking about.

For those who have ever seen Matrix the english movie, there's is this scene where the main character, Neo breaks the vase of flowers.

The dialogue goes along the line of :

Oracle: I'd ask you to sit down, but you're not going to anyway. And don't worry about the vase.

Neo: What vase? (He turns around to look for a vase and in the process breaks it)

Oracle: That vase.

Neo: I'm sorry.

When he asks Oracle how she knew, her response is what's really going to bother him later on is "Would he have still broken the vase if she hadn't said anything?"

Yes I realize Matrix has nothing to do with Bhagonwali, and I'm not off my rocker...not yet anyways. While the above conversation makes for an argument for predestined notions and self-fulfilling prophecies. I think you can kind of apply the thought process to that of reverse psychology employed in Bhagonwali.

Thinking is such a complicated process in its own that when you have to second guess everything you do or over think things it becomes even more mind boggling and confusing. The mind games we play...it's like inception...

Anyways don't worry I'm not going to go into theory...

Fifi (PRNerd) shared this and it was funny...so I thought to share with all among a few other things...(If I haven't lost you already with the above rambling)



Just a little something found on the internet...for time pass...don't take it all too seriously...











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Posted: 14 years ago
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Hey Wafah .... that was awesome .....

The thoughts we think without thinking we thought, and the thoughts we think we're thinking but aren't really thinking about.

My God ! .. how often we do this ... And even before we are finished with one thot the other's hot on it's heels !

I have not seen the Matrix ... now the exchange you've put up here has me all curious ...I must watch it !

predestined notions and self-fulfilling prophecies

Ahhhh ... that would merit a whole thread of it own and we can have a gala time discussing that thread-bare ..... but then maybe not on this forum ! It wouldn't be fair !!! 😆

And the cartoons are hilarious !!! 😆 😆 ... Loved them !!!



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Posted: 14 years ago
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Serious topic, Wafah. Like Usha, I think it could lead to all sorts of discussions. Very deep.
While self-fulfilling prophecy is conditioning your own mind, reverse psychology is playing with someone else's mind and the distinction is very clear. Both are transient states, leading to a positive or negative outcome. Overusgae of both can cause one's thinking to go astray - cause havoc!
Predestined notions (fatalism, inevitability) are beliefs you live by - a philosophy to subscribe to. Our culture tends to favor fatalism, a philosophy that life and events happen only due to God's will. It tends to take power away from our thought processes and intellect and can lead to inaction.
I work with someone always reminds me to be careful what I wish for, because wishing without understanding the consequences of the wish coming true are dangerous as well.
It is one thing to enjoy a TV show and laugh at the shananigans for Guddu and Runjhun or the M & Ms, but if this were reality, a lot of what is suggested can be the cause of ruination - Vishnu and Rajju using Guddu for their own purpose that came to bite them in their a** in their own house or Runjhun trying to change Guddu using reverse psychology has escalated the battle royale to where unforeseen things happen that are a far cry from innocent play.
PS - Love the cartoons! 😆
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: gardes

Serious topic, Wafah. Like Usha, I think it could lead to all sorts of discussions. Very deep.

While self-fulfilling prophecy is conditioning your own mind, reverse psychology is playing with someone else's mind and the distinction is very clear. Both are transient states, leading to a positive or negative outcome. Overusgae of both can cause one's thinking to go astray - cause havoc!
Predestined notions (fatalism, inevitability) are beliefs you live by - a philosophy to subscribe to. Our culture tends to favor fatalism, a philosophy that life and events happen only due to God's will. It tends to take power away from our thought processes and intellect and can lead to inaction.
I work with someone always reminds me to be careful what I wish for, because wishing without understanding the consequences of the wish coming true are dangerous as well.
It is one thing to enjoy a TV show and laugh at the shananigans for Guddu and Runjhun or the M & Ms, but if this were reality, a lot of what is suggested can be the cause of ruination - Vishnu and Rajju using Guddu for their own purpose that came to bite them in their a** in their own house or Runjhun trying to change Guddu using reverse psychology has escalated the battle royale to where unforeseen things happen that are a far cry from innocent play.
PS - Love the cartoons! 😆



Definitely Gardes...very serious...and both in its separate axis can be pulled apart in many ways and discussed bare. My intention wasn't that since it was too early for the discussion...early being I'd just woken up and was still tired...so I knew I wouldn't form coherent thoughts.
Just thought it would make a nice serious introduction to funny cartoons.

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Posted: 14 years ago
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Good point ..Wafah...
Ps..watched all the matrix 👍🏼.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Intresting way of discribing tought process. I love matrix one of my collections. And yes what we desire and ask for and what we get is two different things. Like Runjhun not wanting Guddu to stop the wedding insted got married to him. Or the challange turned out to be just opposite of what Runjhun wanted it to be.

I think soon we will see Mitho mami wishing one thing and getting somthing else.

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