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Posted: 7 years ago

Originally posted by: Fernandes43

Who was Arjun's original Jaan? Maya! He many times used to address her like that! Even, during Saanjh's kidnap & subsequent blackmail scene, she insisted and made him call her as his 'Jaan' before playing that crucial video with sound track to give some vital clues!
In short, Maya was his Jaan! Then who replaced her? Saanjh?
No! Saanjh married him & became his wife! A promotion from Saathi to Jeevan Saathi !
But who took Maya's place? His new Jaan!
It is Arohi! Arjun & Co know that!
And importantly, Maya guessed it also right!
So, during Dandya night when she advised him to go and save his 'Jaan', She knew whom she meant! But the tube light of duffer flickered only a bit late!
Now, the important point to note here is Aarohi replaced Maya in his life as his Jaan!
Is it a correct statement to make?
If so, the person who was really in between Maya and Arjun is/was only Aarohi!Not Saanjh!
Does that make any sense?
Was Aarohi ever a threat to Maya, to get her Arjun?
Then why did she attack the kid?
Because it would her Arjun's Jaan!
Now, let us recollect Ganesha's example! Why did Maya throw the Idol into lake?
She never allowed anyone to come in between her and Arjun! That was the reasoning?
Does a similar logic holds good for Aarohi also, if she was Arjun's Jaan?
Why not? Didn't the same Maya ask once Arjun to save her own bandar from her because her psycho mind wouldn't even tolerate if Arjun happened to love more his bandar than herself!
Maya wouldn't accept anyone to compete with her for sharing Arjun's love!
Then how can she spare Aarohi?
So, it looked on expected lines when she poisoned Aarohi!
But, her saving Aarohi and justification is out of her character!
This is not the Maya we are familiar with!
Where is the original Beyhadh Maya who never accepted anyone between her and her Arjun?
Yet another slip from CVs?



Wooow..well written...my thoughts exactly...but I couldn't write it well...I had the same feeling.It was out of the character Maya shown till now...
.Maya is beyhadh...she doesn't recognise any limits or sympathies.If she has recognised her limits that she can't kill a kid...then she is not beyhadh...
She is just a normal person who has sense of right and wrong and chose the wrong path deliberately.
But happy that the writers think of redeeming Maya... they hinted it...so like jennifer said...she shall be a grey character.I sooo want her to realise her mistakes and repent...that will give her peace finally...


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Posted: 7 years ago

Originally posted by: Fernandes43

Who was Arjun's original Jaan? Maya! He many times used to address her like that! Even, during Saanjh's kidnap & subsequent blackmail scene, she insisted and made him call her as his 'Jaan' before playing that crucial video with sound track to give some vital clues!
In short, Maya was his Jaan! Then who replaced her? Saanjh?
No! Saanjh married him & became his wife! A promotion from Saathi to Jeevan Saathi !
But who took Maya's place? His new Jaan!
It is Arohi! Arjun & Co know that!
And importantly, Maya guessed it also right!
So, during Dandya night when she advised him to go and save his 'Jaan', She knew whom she meant! But the tube light of duffer flickered only a bit late!
Now, the important point to note here is Aarohi replaced Maya in his life as his Jaan!
Is it a correct statement to make?
If so, the person who was really in between Maya and Arjun is/was only Aarohi!Not Saanjh!
Does that make any sense?
Was Aarohi ever a threat to Maya, to get her Arjun?
Then why did she attack the kid?
Because it would her Arjun's Jaan!
Now, let us recollect Ganesha's example! Why did Maya throw the Idol into lake?
She never allowed anyone to come in between her and Arjun! Was that the reasoning?
Does a similar logic hold good for Aarohi also, if she is/was Arjun's Jaan?
Why not? Didn't the same Maya ask once Arjun to save her own bandar from her because her psycho mind wouldn't even tolerate if Arjun happened to love more his bandar than herself!
Maya wouldn't accept anyone to compete with her for sharing Arjun's love!
Then how can she spare Aarohi?
So, it looked on expected lines when she poisoned Aarohi!
But, her saving Aarohi and justification is out of her character!
This is not the Maya we are familiar with!
Where is the original Beyhadh Maya who never accepted anyone between her and her Arjun?
Yet another slip from CVs?



Arjun has called so many people his jaan in this show...First he called Ayaan his jaan
Then Maya his jaan
Then Saanjh his jaan
And now Arohi is his jaan
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Yes Maya doesn't allow anyone else to come between her and Arjun...She wanted that only she should be in Arjun's heart and no one else.

That is why she trapped Ayaan coz he wanted to take Arjun away and because Arjun said that Ayaan was his jaan and he went to meet him...Maya couldn't allow Arjun to have a place for anyone else in his heart except her even if that person was his bro

Same case was with Saanjh and everyone else.

But that time we were witnessing Maya's Beyhadh love or obsession for Arjun

Now case is different

Now she wants revenge against Arjun...Now she wants to him to feel the pain.

We had seen what limits Maya crossed when she wanted Arjun for herself and was madly in love with him

Now we are witnessing what limits Maya can cross to seek revenge from Arjun.

So, her aim for harming Arohi was to give pain to Arjun and create a rift between him and Ayaan...she hurt Arohi to give pain to Arjun and not because she couldn't bear that Arjun loves Arohi so much.

At least this is what I think.
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Posted: 7 years ago

Originally posted by: anshvi


Arjun has called so many people his jaan in this show...First he called Ayaan his jaan
Then Maya his jaan
Then Saanjh his jaan
And now Arohi is his jaan
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Yes Maya doesn't allow anyone else to come between her and Arjun...She wanted that only she should be in Arjun's heart and no one else.

That is why she trapped Ayaan coz he wanted to take Arjun away and because Arjun said that Ayaan was his jaan and he went to meet him...Maya couldn't allow Arjun to have a place for anyone else in his heart except her even if that person was his bro

Same case was with Saanjh and everyone else.

But that time we were witnessing Maya's Beyhadh love or obsession for Arjun

Now case is different

Now she wants revenge against Arjun...Now she wants to him to feel the pain.

We had seen what limits Maya crossed when she wanted Arjun for herself and was madly in love with him

Now we are witnessing what limits Maya can cross to seek revenge from Arjun.

So, her aim for harming Arohi was to give pain to Arjun and create a rift between him and Ayaan...she hurt Arohi to give pain to Arjun and not because she couldn't bear that Arjun loves Arohi so much.

At least this is what I think.

Her sparing of Aarohi is in sync with her character? You don't see any shift or softening of her obsessive self? Is this Maya relatively more tolerant & humane if one can say that?
She is not Rakshas but a bit of human too! Is that your verdict?
If Arjun loves their future child more than Saanjh or Maya, still Maya wouldn't harm the child, right?
Edited by Fernandes43 - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago

Originally posted by: Fernandes43

Her sparing of Aarohi is in sync with her character? You don't see any shift or softening of her obsessive self? Is this Maya relatively more tolerant & humane if one can say that?
She is not Rakshas but a bit of human too! Is that your verdict?
If Arjun loves their future child more than Saanjh or Maya, still Maya wouldn't harm the child, right?


See she did save the kid coz she didn't want to kill her...she did it to give pain to Arjun.

All I am saying is that now her aim is not to have Arjun for herself but to seek revenge from him.

Her saving Arohi after poisoning her might be an indication that she might redeemed in the end

Her approach might have softened a bit.

My main point was that her aim has changed...earlier it was Beyhadh love for Arjun and now revenge from him

Earlier she crossed limits for Arjun's love and now she is crossing limits to seek revenge from him.

One thing is sure her aim has now changed.
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Posted: 7 years ago

Originally posted by: anshvi


See she did save the kid coz she didn't want to kill her...she did it to give pain to Arjun.

All I am saying is that now her aim is not to have Arjun for herself but to seek revenge from him.

Her saving Arohi after poisoning her might be an indication that she might redeemed in the end

Her approach might have softened a bit.

My main point was that her aim has changed...earlier it was Beyhadh love for Arjun and now revenge from him

Earlier she crossed limits for Arjun's love and now she is crossing limits to seek revenge from him.

One thing is sure her aim has now changed.

@Black True & Agreed!
@RED
The incident of sparing Aarohi's life is clearly an example, that Maya has indeed a limit for herself! She won't kill a child even if that serves her cause better! Perhaps, she prefers slow poisoning as a better tool than an instant poison she used for Tulsi! No doubt that Maya continues to stay very much on course -her new goal of taking revenge from Arjun in stead of her original demand of his elusive and gradually whittled away pyar for Maya!!
Edited by Fernandes43 - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago

Originally posted by: Fernandes43

@Black True & Agreed!
@RED
The incident of sparing Aarohi's life is clearly an example, that Maya has indeed a limit for herself! She won't kill a child even if that serves her cause better! Perhaps, she prefers slow poisoning as a better tool than an instant poison she used for Tulsi! No doubt that Maya continues to stay very much on course -her new goal of taking revenge from Arjun in stead of her original demand of his elusive and gradually whittled away pyar for Maya!!


If we look at the overall picture then she indeed has crossed all limits...even went on to poisoning so many kids...But makers showed that she saved Arohi and didn't kill the child...Is this an indication that she might get redeemed in the end, only time will tell.
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Posted: 7 years ago
Maya has an arsenal of poisons!
A mild one that was mixed possibly for mass consumption by other kids and arguably not fatal!
A serious one that was specially fed to Aarohi, apparently calling for intervention of Maya who only had the antidote to save her life!
And, of course the super-fast killer that was just pinned into the the skin of Tulsi! Perhaps not even in vein, as maya was not exactly in a right position or even time to search the vein of her victim!! It was instant killer!
A re-search scholar in pharma & medicine has everything up in her sleeve!
She chooses her target and then feeds what she wants to!
What kind of poison is she having to administer to her three principal targets, Saanjh, Jhanvi & Arjun finally?
Only Maya knows what she has!
But, we can be sure that it is only going to be a slow one, prolonging the agony and pain of her victims, as she is now going to be a guest at their mansion with a ringside view to enjoy and have her fun, at their expense!
Arjun is going to see his close-knit family now tattering into pieces! In one stroke, Ayaan & Aarohi left him! The group photo of formerly a happy family is going to haunt him as a bad memory!
A snake is now sneaking inside their home with poison stored in its body!
The venom will spill to her womb, as the snake is well-guarded in its defence!!

Added after telecast of today's Episode:

Every sperm, or egg or even fertilized egg is not meant to be a part of potential child always!That is not nature's design!
Many are likely to get wasted! It is common knowledge!
Then why so much fuss about one such fertilized egg stolen fraudulently by a criminal?
Does it have such a sentimental value?
Is it the last egg Saanjh's human body ever going to produce?
Or, is Arjun going to have a short supply of life giving male sperms, in future?
Why can't they go for another surrogacy attempt if Maya is hijacking their plan to conceive a child?
Are they only supposed to yield to her blackmail?Duffer has no brains! We know it! Even Dusky lost her thinking faculty? They have no sense it is given, but even an iota of common sense is not left in their brains?

An egg inseminated with sperm by a medical procedure has such a huge sentimental value to them! Really?! Even law says abortion is legal upto 20 weeks or something like that! then?
Those duffer couple are even prepared to risk the entire family's safety for the sake of one fertilized egg!
What a trade -off! What a priority in life!!
Sab Maya hai!
Because God is on her side! That is what she claims!
The Doctor could have fooled Maya without actually inserting the egg into Maya's reproductive system! But she fears for her life! The original surrogate mother gets bribed!
Maya finds a labourious route to enter into Arjun's house!
Is she the new light that will drive the darkness?!
Or she is the darkness that will swallow the light?
The future episodes hold the key!




Edited by Fernandes43 - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Duffer you have 3 choices. Send Maya to jail. Duffer and Dusky ka bandar will be born there. Kill Maya along with Duffer and Dusky ka bandar. Or take her home and see the happiness of duffer and dusky ka bandar growing in her womb. Whatever choice you make it is your choice Duffer and Dusky. Whether Duffer makes it or Dusky makes it. If you take her home that is your choice. You always have the option to send her to jail and have your bandar there. She wouldnt mind.

When she was Arjun's wife and carrying his child she was in mental aslyum. A woman who should have got good food, pampering and utmost care because she was brining a new life in this world went to mental aslyum, while Duffer cried in Dusky's arms. Duffer and Dusky spend all the time together. Duffer confessed to Dusky he doesnt love Maya. He just wants her for bandar.
You got it now Duffer. A woman just to give you bandar. She is that. AA surrogate mother carrying yours and dusky's child. It is dusky's child, it should get the privilege Maya's child didnt get right.

When Maya poisoned Aarohi he took away his daughter. When Maya told doctor you only think about your family she obliged. When it comes to family right or wrong doesnt matter. What Ayan did and what doctor did today is what normal sane people will do. But when it came to her father and Duffer, Duffer was important to Dusky. She doesnt had any qualms to put her father in risk, that too the most loving father a child can get, neither she had any qualms to strike a deal with her father's killer if it meant she can get duffer. Duffer an innocent unborn child wanted its father. Its mother was incapable of protecting it. She herself had told the father of the baby protect the baby from her madness. She tried to protect the baby, but she couldnt. She lost the battle between her heart and head. But the man who was supposed to be sane, the child's father wanted his madness Dusky over and above that 8 month old unborn baby. So Duffer is above everything for Dusky and Dusky is above everything for Duffer. No others have any place between them. Doesnt matter it is Dusky's loving father Prem or Duffer's unborn 8 month old baby. This friendship, this relation doesnt care about anything. It is about Duffer and Dusky. Dusky ka Duffer, Duffer ki Dusky.

Today a woman stands between them. Just like Dusky had stood between Arjun and Maya in Arya marriage, just like she sang the sad song and put her hand between the couple. Just like she was part of that ghatbandhan. Yes it looked she was not part. But she was part. Always the part.Always in between them. Today the woman who stands between them is the carrier of their joy. Yes the child is theirs, but they need her. There is no child without her.

Of course this woman is no mahan devta. She has her motive. The baby is the medium for her to get Arjun. She doesnt hide it. She doesnt have a white cloak. Just like friendship was the cloak Dusky always had to come between Maya and Arjun.

Maya says you cannot stop the hatred completely, neither can you deny the happiness I am giving. Darkness and light is co existing. But light has to come. It has to take away the darkness.

Duffer talks about 7 kids, 6 like him and 1 like Dusky. 7 makes it entry once again. Maya has two birth dates 7 and 9. Then one she wrote in the tombstone. 7 of course was the child. 9 would have the day the child was lost, a woman was born prematurely, where a child became a mother. Dusky says Maya can win. Her past. 7 is the date in which she can win. So the woman might lose, but the child, child has to win. We have 7,8, and 9. 7 is Maya's first birth date, 8 is the month she lost her baby, 9 is the month a woman becomes a mother, but with the story so far shown it looks like 9 is the year Maya started protecting Jhanvi from Ashwin and she became a mother ahead of time. Waqt se aage. Her problem started there.

And at any point of 7 is the number of sins. The sins that fuels Maya or illusion or power of Maya the metaphor which has to be visible now in all its glory.
Edited by shruthiravi - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
@Fernandes...Not only in this show every show which has shown this surrogacy route deal with the issue like this only...As u said they feel it's the last egg nd sperm to be produced by the partners that they will yield to the weirdest nd disgusting demands of the opposite party...exactly my question..why so much fuss abt ur one fertilized egg???u can easily produce another...But then they need smthg or the other illogical reason to keep Maya in Sharma Mansion..Even if someone says the chances of producing another fertilized egg or the success of surrogacy is less it doesn't look strong enough to welcome a wounded tigress like Maya who is on a revenge mode into their lives...SaaJun r never shown to have brain..so no disappointments there!!!Aakhir mein SAB MAYA HAI
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@ajay, fernandes surrogacy is a very delicate subject that needs to be handled with sensitivity. But I dont think hindi soaps has the maturity to deal it with the maturity it deserve. Also I am not sure will you immediately know you have conceived. I mean doesnt it require time after the procedure to completely certify the fertilized egg is attached to the womb. It happens so fast.
I thought you require some days to confirm it

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