Circular Reasoning of Beyhadh

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Posted: 8 years ago
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To tell a good thriller, you need to place at least one mature, rational and round character in the center of the story who can pick facts from the debris of mundane routine life of characters. Usually that rational person make sense of every nonsense going on in his world, and audience idolize him for being mature and courageous.

And this is exactly what lacks in Beyhadh.

In the beginning, or so I guess, Sanjh's character was designed to be that rational person who wouldn't stand any emotional bullshit as she was a lawyer and she must have some strong sense of justice which pushed her to pursue a career in law.

I don't need to mention that it failed big time in this case, as the audience is still sympathetic with Maya. Be it incorrect characterization or audience's fascination with Jennifer, people still struggle to believe in Sanjh's reasoning as compared to Maya's.

Showing Sanjh as a sweet, innocent 'Pappa ki Ladli' didn't work at all. When you have an antagonist like Maya Mehrotra, you need a protagonist who would be as strong and as wilful like her, to have an equal competition. I had hoped that Sanjh would have changed after coming back from London as she was a professional lawyer then, but all thanks to daily soap's logic, she was still the emotional creature we had seen in Season 1.

So what I can see would happen next in the show:

1. Sanjh would keep trying to convince duffer that Maya is evil

2. Duffer would keep trying to cure Maya

3. Maya would keep blaming people for her own choices

If we look at the character dynamics, nothing really has changed in the Beyhadh world and the characters have some perspective of life as they had in Season 1. I wonder for how long CVs can show us flat characters spinning in a circle.

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Posted: 8 years ago
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May be, this is the last phase!
Some hope for breaking this monotony of this story is still there!
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: Fernandes43

May be, this is the last phase!
Some hope for breaking this monotony of this story is still there!



CVs are still struggling to decide who is the real protagonist of the story: hence the monotony.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: Atonement



CVs are still struggling to decide who is the real protagonist of the story: hence the monotony.

You're right.
Plus this is Indian Tv serial : TRPS decide the protagonist.
Jennifer is a phenomenal performer while honestly , Aneri as Saanjh isn't that good an actress as Jennifer is
They should've taken a far stronger actress who can stand up to Jenny and counter attack her as a powerful protagonist.
They should've taken Umang jain as Saanjh instead of Aneri.
Aneri doesn't have the maturity to play Saanjh.
And also, Arjun-Maya has been promoted as a couple from the very beginning and ofcourse, Sony won't dare to upset the minimal trp audience they have.
Plus Aneri's chemistry with Kushal isn't good enough for fans to demand the Arjun-Saanjh couple.
Plus many people even don't like Saanjh.
There's a chance Saanjh might win the game but then Indian trp audience doesn't like Surprise endings .
Add to that Maya and Arjun's sizzling chemistry and Aneri's failure to play her role properly .
And we get a mess that doesn't convey the message the producers were trying to give out.
That's why casting is very important.
It can make or break a show
And in case of Beyhad and few other shows, bad casting is forcing the cvs to change the direction of the story
Geez.

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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: Atonement

CVs are still struggling to decide who is the real protagonist of the story: hence the monotony.


I don't think there's any doubt as to who is the protagonist of Beyhadh...it is clearly Maya's story, from her pov, with her being the main lead of the show...she is the protagonist who also happens to be the antagonist in the show...
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Agreed. Saanjh's character had great scope in theory but lacked detailing. Her character is very one dimensional with Saanjh having nothing to do in the show except worry for Arjun. Add to that Aneri is easily overshadowed by Jenny. So it becomes hard for audience to connect to her.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Maya is the protagonist and Maya herself is an antagonist even if she dies in the end and Arjun and Sanjh live a happy life together thereafter...I also wished Sanjh was a smart character, someone who doesn't claim to have evidences infront of supposed criminal...but she is not...more than being emotional she is dumb and self-righteous...When she was fighting for Ayaan her main focus was proving "giri hui aurat" wrong not on proving Ayaan innocent...Well there is zero growth in Sanjh's character she hasn't still moved on in life forgetting her duffer...leaving him alone...with his own choices...
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: Luna99

You're right.
Plus this is Indian Tv serial : TRPS decide the protagonist.
Jennifer is a phenomenal performer while honestly , Aneri as Saanjh isn't that good an actress as Jennifer is
They should've taken a far stronger actress who can stand up to Jenny and counter attack her as a powerful protagonist.
They should've taken Umang jain as Saanjh instead of Aneri.
Aneri doesn't have the maturity to play Saanjh.
And also, Arjun-Maya has been promoted as a couple from the very beginning and ofcourse, Sony won't dare to upset the minimal trp audience they have.
Plus Aneri's chemistry with Kushal isn't good enough for fans to demand the Arjun-Saanjh couple.
Plus many people even don't like Saanjh.
There's a chance Saanjh might win the game but then Indian trp audience doesn't like Surprise endings .
Add to that Maya and Arjun's sizzling chemistry and Aneri's failure to play her role properly .
And we get a mess that doesn't convey the message the producers were trying to give out.
That's why casting is very important.
It can make or break a show
And in case of Beyhad and few other shows, bad casting is forcing the cvs to change the direction of the story
Geez.



I agree that casting was not correct, but characterization also plays a role in casting. They were looking for a happy-go-lucky, family girl who had a crush on his childhood friend. Also she just happened to be a criminal lawyer. That was the biggest design flaw, in my opinion.

It is much easier to show a good-natured, family man as a lawyer than showing the same for a woman. Women just do not pop into such career choices without any strong personal motivation. Audience never got to know why Sanjh chose to be a criminal lawyer. Women like her usually turn to legal advisory services instead of fighting with criminals in court. I guess she was doing the same in Season 1 when she was working with a lawyer.

The story would do some good with a strong female lawyer with a clear conscience, but when the character was poorly written, we cannot really blame the casting completely.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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I agree that so far Maya looks like the protagonist and the antagonist of the story and the whole fight of good and evil is happening inside her.

But,

If you take a look at the original post, I mentioned that you need at least a voice of reason. It can be anyone. It could be Sanjh, it could be Arjun, it could be Vandana or it could be even Prem, but CVs do not want to come out of the stock characterization of overly-emotional and overly-protective relationships and when everybody behaves in the same manner then it starts to bore viewers.
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Originally posted by: Atonement



I agree that casting was not correct, but characterization also plays a role in casting. They were looking for a happy-go-lucky, family girl who had a crush on his childhood friend. Also she just happened to be a criminal lawyer. That was the biggest design flaw, in my opinion.

It is much easier to show a good-natured, family man as a lawyer than showing the same for a woman. Women just do not pop into such career choices without any strong personal motivation. Audience never got to know why Sanjh chose to be a criminal lawyer. Women like her usually turn to legal advisory services instead of fighting with criminals in court. I guess she was doing the same in Season 1 when she was working with a lawyer.

The story would do some good with a strong female lawyer with a clear conscience, but when the character was poorly written, we cannot really blame the casting completely.


You're simply being male chauvinist.
My mother is a famous criminal lawyer of Kolkata
See, I personally know a lot of female criminal lawyers who really didn't have the "strong personal motive" to be one as you say.
My mother personally found the subject intriguing compared to blander law subjects so she took up.
Her other female colleagues in the same line also took up the subject because they found it interesting compared to the mundane duties of being a public prosecutor or legal advisor.
In real life, being a criminal lawyer is simply a personal choice.
It has nothing to do with a strong personal motive
There is no requirement that Female criminal lawyers have to be strong minded hard jawed military women.
And anyways, all girls are strong minded
It's the boys who has big ego problems when they see a girl excelling in a field dominated by them.
Saanjh might be a carefree girl , but there is absolutely no wrong in her to choose to be a criminal lawyer .
In real life, our personalities don't match to our jobs- and it's absolutely right for Saanjh to be a criminal lawyer alongside being a carefree girl.
Beyhaad was supposed to be a realistic show and I'm really happy that they've tucked in an untypical character like Saanjh who is a happy go lucky girl but at the same time she's a criminal lawyer.
Plus anyways, Saanjh is a much stronger character now than she was in the beginning
The main problem with her characterization was that they couldn't show her transition from the cute girl in S1 to the more mature Saanjh in S2.
Okay, according to the story, probably the writers meant to make Maya an indirect motivation for Saanjh's decision to become a criminal lawyer but they couldn't show it properly.
And even these characterization problems would have been covered if a competent artist would've been included to essay the character.
Aneri was tolerable in S1 but she really can't do the still bright natured but more mature Saanjh really well.
Honestly, she's putting in efforts to improve her acting, but she's pretty irritating in some scenes nowadays.
She's better in those bright hued youth shows
Realistic shows like Beyhaad doesn't work well with her skill set at the moment.
I've seen good actors salvaging characters with horrendous characterization with their acting skills and bad actors ruining nicely written characters by their over/under acting(sometimes a weird mix of both)
Saanjh as played by aneri falls into the dangerous category of a character with mediocre characterization played by an actress unsuitable for the role(Aneri isn't that bad- she was very good infact in Nisha aur uske cousins).
These type of characters are pathetic to even watch as we can see that this character would've been MUCH better if a more suitable actress would've played the role.
That's why I suggested Umang Jain.
She has played a bubbly character in yeh rishta and a demure and mature character in Ek tha chander Ek thi sudha.
I also think Umang would look better with Kushal and with the entire scenery of Beyhaad.
I'm sorry to say but Aneri sticks out like a sore thumb in the show
Edited by Luna99 - 8 years ago

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