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shruthiravi

@shruthiravi

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Posted: 8 years ago

#961

@anshvi didnt Maya try the right methods or do we know whether she tried it or not. In Season 1 she had tried the right methods. The right methods didnt deliver results, so she used tedha methods.

In season 1 Maya was a victim, now Arjun and co are victims. When victim tries right methods no one gives a damn, just like what has happened to Arjun and co. They had to break the law. In season 1 Maya also broke law. Then she went beyhadh in season 2 and season 3.

Now Arjun and co have broken law. At this point no innocent is hurt, but it will decide what they do in their journey for justice whether they will go beyhadh or will be in hadh and will there be a cross over with Maya.

One good thing happened with the jail break is that police got their hands on some corrupt people like doctor, the vegetable vendor and the other person who dug the tunnel who allowed a murderer to escape for money.

Yes counter Maya is required to get the white cloaks off certain people. All those who helped Arjun were living in the society with holy white cloaks of doctor, vegetable vendor and whatsover but in a way denying justice to victims

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Y12345

@Y12345

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Posted: 8 years ago

#962

@anshvi: I agree with Shruti, Maya tried the right methods and no results. Arjun&co tried the right methods-no results so they all resort to illegal things.

And you should not try to see what Maya done through your POV, try to see it through Maya eyes. Maya trapped Ayan because she thought that he will separate him from arjun and same goes for vandy .So she is both the victim and the culprit.

I don't see difference, a crime is a crime, even when it is committed by some epitome of goodness.

Arjun & co are victims but so is Maya. When life threw rocks at her,she did the same thing that Arjun & co did when life threw rocks at them.

Saanjh tried every legal way possible but don't you think that Maya tried to be a good person and let go of her past? She couldnt. Sannjh couldnt. And society also rejected and let an innocent die slowly everyday. And today this innocent, turned out to be a culprit as you called it. Same case goes for Arjun. It works both sides dear.

I would also like to add that Arjun may be a victim of Maya killings but Maya is a victim too again for Arjun's betrayal, lies,etc.

But Maya is an iron lady, she is not the one who will go cry when the person for whom she did all this, left her. She stood up and didnt play the victim card.That's the only difference I can think of.

And as shruti said, every night has a day so if Saanjun& co are going to be living happily ever after then I hope cvs has planned something good for maya too

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anshvi

@anshvi

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Posted: 8 years ago

#963

Originally posted by: shruthiravi
@anshvi didnt Maya try the right methods or do we know whether she tried it or not. In Season 1 she had tried the right methods. The right methods didnt deliver results, so she used tedha methods.
In season 1 Maya was a victim, now Arjun and co are victims. When victim tries right methods no one gives a damn, just like what has happened to Arjun and co. They had to break the law. In season 1 Maya also broke law. Then she went beyhadh in season 2 and season 3.

Now Arjun and co have broken law. At this point no innocent is hurt, but it will decide what they do in their journey for justice whether they will go beyhadh or will be in hadh and will there be a cross over with Maya.

One good thing happened with the jail break is that police got their hands on some corrupt people like doctor, the vegetable vendor and the other person who dug the tunnel who allowed a murderer to escape for money.

Yes counter Maya is required to get the white cloaks off certain people. All those who helped Arjun were living in the society with holy white cloaks of doctor, vegetable vendor and whatsover but in a way denying justice to victims

I again have completely different views on this

No one can be sure that Maya was a victim in season 1...She maybe a victim of Ashwin but certainly not of Mathurs...Vandana did not accept her that is a fact but she was planning this whole thing as a back up even before the wedding took place is also a fact...It indicates that Maya was never completely genuine in her intentions

She told her mom that 'Kya farak padtha hai Arjun ko yahi ana hai' or something of that sorts indicating that her plan was to separate Arjun from her family

That time as well Ayaan , Arjun and Saanjh had supported Maya against Vandana and even after that Vandana and Ayaan had gone to her house with presents..Vandana even had bought chandi ke kade for her

but Maya again created an illusion and finally separated Arjun from her family

Also if Saanjh and Arjun in her opinion were crossing the limits of friendship then there were a lot of ways to deal with them

I always say that the extent and severity of action and reaction needs to be kept in mind

If A slaps B for abusing A and B in return stabs A to death claiming that he was a 'victim' and had no other option then that doesn't make B an actual victim but rather a criminal and A will be termed as a victim in real sense in my opinion.

The lawyer in the court said a very apt thing '100 criminals can escape but 1 innocent should not be punished'

Ayaan was an innocent who got falsely trapped by Maya and this time around so is Arjun who is falsely accused and this time they are trying to seek justice

Edited by anshvi - 8 years ago

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Laska

@Laska

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Posted: 8 years ago

#964

@shruthiravi, this plan seems to me extremely muddy. In it too much doesn't add up. Even then, how quickly the police found out that Duffer is alive and escape. And Suman, how could she drag Shubh in this? How? He, of course, is no longer quite a child, but why should he have these problems from playing insane adults? Why should he have problems because of his sister's obsession? Ayan, Dusky, Suman, Shubh, Duffer, where and whose are plans?

Maya buried herself. If even this time they aren't going to play according to the rules they've written, then let Maye just die. Well, enough of sadism over these miserable remnants, once already in a distant, forgotten for an inexorable time, a person. Chance. And not one chance. Time has driven Maya in a trap

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shruthiravi

@shruthiravi

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Posted: 8 years ago

#965

@laska no one was expecting that Saanjh's mother would be recognized. Of course Duffer and Dusky were not there in the ambulance and police swung to action. They caught doctor and the vendor also. Now duffer and dusky are on the run.

@Y12 Maya never played victim, that's why she was always bad and mad. Others had a sob story, while she had a survival story. When I had watched EHT, there was a beautiful path crossing of Sakshi and Durga when Sakshi's past is revealed. But to know that path crossing we had to know the past, similarly there was path crossing between Dev and Rajnath. Here we yet dont know the complete past of Maya. Most importantly how she set up F&C. The only light of Maya's life has been F&C and nothing else. But not once in her memories, thoughts F&C comes. It is either the darkness of Ashwin or the lovey-dovey moments of Arjun both extremes in their own way.

@anshvi Arjun's journey will ensure all white cloaks will be taken and the sanak Maya destroyed. But the constructive Maya is needed, you cannot decide constructive Maya. Also Duffer is now responsible for all the lives with him. Ayan, Saanjh, Shubh and Suman. If Duffer is not proven innocent then all these people become criminals and move to jail. Even young Shub's future will get destroyed as far as society is concerned he is a boy who was part of the team who allowed a criminal to escape. If one life goes among the four duffer is responsible. And it will life of innocent especially shubh and suman.

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Fernandes43

@Fernandes43

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Posted: 8 years ago

#966

After the loss of Prem & Vandana, the Sharmas and Mathurs are not prepared to take any more casualties from the marauding attack of a psycho who is totally let loose in their world! Who will protect them, particularly when their Shining Knight is all set for a hunt, chasing a wounded but still very ferocious tigress in hiding?

So, Arjun & Saanjh made sure that the rest of their near & dear ones in family are safe with Ayaan & some friendly convicts in jail, offering them protection & safety, till the duo return from their hunting mission successfully! Can they afford to trust these police personnel for the safety of loved ones, when Mayajaal can penetrate every system & control through bribes?!

Well, if this is the intention behind breaking a law, then that leaves only Jhanvi with no cover! Perhaps, is she going to be used as the bait for trapping the big cat that will be on its prowl seeking badla, once she discovers her plan has gone for a toss?!

It will be interesting to know who is going to be Maya's timely help this time, saving her literally from the embrace of death! If her timer is her last companion, then can we take it as some kind of clue, & hazard a guess on that?
Maya often quotes as one of her most favoured monologue, " Love can give life & Love can take it too!"
So, it was always on the cards that Maya's beyhadh love would take the life of Arjun, if he were to go out of her control, just proving her words!

But, is one more psycho going to do something similar? Is that same one who wrote Maya's name all over the trees in the jungle area - when Maya's love is going to take her own life- all set to rescue her giving life back to Maya, then?
What will Maya do, if she is saved?
Will she take the life of her saviour for intruding in her mission or she will change her mind and plan to live for some time & make sure that she does not fail next time only to complete what she originally set-out to do, if and when she comes to know Arjun's daring escape from her noose & that of hangman's as well?!

Let us wait for the events to unfold themselves, to be sure of anything in this crazy show!

Edited by Fernandes43 - 8 years ago

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Lecter

@Lecter

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Posted: 8 years ago

#967

Ok beyhadh's writers lost it. Maya what's happening to you? Someone brings ashwin and samay please. Or i hope this is maya's plan. Ok maa against everyone but really?

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shruthiravi

@shruthiravi

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Posted: 8 years ago

#968

21/7/2017

Saanjh's master plan. There cannot be a big Maya than this. The plan is that of Arjun, Saanjh only obeyed his orders, that's it. Once again Saanjh started I took law degree. Well it only applies when someone tells her what to do and never alone. But still there is no let down of her pride. He is taking that in front of a police officer whose duty is to ensure the conviction of law. She was mocking the police officer. I would say she has literally challenged the police officer. I dont think he is going to take it lightly when she has the made the tamasha of police department in front of the media.

Arjun has learnt a lot from Maya. Each step he has taken is what Maya has taught him. He is taking the war to her door step but not taking the responsibility, in front of the world once again the player is Saanjh Mathur, not Arjun Sharma. So Arjun is in someplace preparing for the war. He expects Maya to make mistakes and through the mistakes reach her. He knows Maya very well to read her every move.

Maya I am happy finally that she lost. It was time her tedha methods face the failure. It was time Arjun break the Chakrvyuha that was set for his death. It was time for her to know yes she will die and Arjun will live with Saanjh. Yes the possibility of Arjun living with Saanjh is high post her death. Because if she is caught then the beautiful Maya Mehrotra doesnt exist. The woman who created F&C doesnt exist, only a cheater exists. She cannot show her face in public. She was bad and mad Maya in childhood, once again she is back to a place where she cannot go outside. Today also she ran as some people recognized her from the TV news. What happened in her childhood was what Ashwin had created, but what she faces now is what Ashwin in her has created. The abyss of darkness. The failure of plans where Arjun managed to break the jail and fight it out. The past has come, it has come in full force.

But the interesting point is who saved Maya. There was no tape recorder when she got into the casket. Who put the tape recorder there, who took her out, who poured water on her and put rose petals on that grave and casket. Yes marriage symbols came to Maya, Maya burned it. Now rose petals are put on the grave, a symbol of life, water a force of life is put on her but Maya is running away from them. She is running away from life, she had always run away from life, she had never faced life, because life meant fight for her. And life had always followed her. Will she turn and face life for once.

Second interesting point is Ayan. Suman gave some faltu gyan and he changed. No I cannot accept that. Ayan still has something hidden about him. I cannot pin point it. But there is something hidden about him, there is a perception about him. And I am sure it has a huge role to play in the whole game. His actions are confusing.

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joysoflife

@joysoflife

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Posted: 8 years ago

#969

I really want to know what will arjun saanj do with maya. if I were dusky my plan would be to bring 9ut maya in public and open her all kala chitta. this.she will suffer in jail seeing arjun saanj together arjun said he won't kill her I think then this is the plan