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Posted: 8 years ago
@beyondhorizon I put the choice for Vandana. Hatred for Maya or Love for Arjun. Her hatred for Maya is justified and all her actions she did was based on hatred for Maya. But if she had chosen love for Arjun, over and above hatred for Maya the action would have different. The baby would have got precedence than Maya. Because baby in Maya's womb belongs to Arjun also. It is her grand child also. More than the mother of the grand child, the grandchild would have taken precedence if Vandana has chosen love for Maya.
Why did pregnant Maya run car over Ayan. Saanjh did knew Ayan had got something on Maya. He was also instigating a bit. Maya acts only on provocation. That's why Arjun told you know abt her madness still you told Maa. I cannot believe she is stupid as there are many similar actions of her that lacks logic.

I didnt defend Maya. I only told for the death of the child Maya alone is not responsible, if any of these 3 Arjun, Vandana or Saanjh who are supposed to be sane people than mad Maya have acted differently thinking about the child, child would have been saved.


Edited by shruthiravi - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: shruthiravi

@beyondhorizon I put the choice for Vandana. Hatred for Maya or Love for Arjun. Her hatred for Maya is justified and all her actions she did was based on hatred for Maya. But if she had chosen love for Arjun, over and above hatred for Maya the action would have different. The baby would have got precedence than Maya. Because baby in Maya's womb belongs to Arjun also. It is her grand child also. More than the mother of the grand child, the grandchild would have taken precedence if Vandana has chosen love for Maya.

Why did pregnant Maya run car over Ayan. Saanjh did knew Ayan had got something on Maya. He was also instigating a bit. Maya acts only on provocation. That's why Arjun told you know abt her madness still you told Maa. I cannot believe she is stupid as there are many similar actions of her that lacks logic.

I didnt defend Maya. I only told for the death of the child Maya alone is not responsible, if any of these 3 Arjun, Vandana or Saanjh who are supposed to be sane people than mad Maya have acted differently thinking about the child, child would have been saved.



If u ask me at that point in time, it wasn love for Arjun or hatred for Maya. Vandana was a mother who was wronged, whose child she had nurtured not just for 9 months but for more than 2 decades. She just wanted to bring her child to justice. So its about right/wrong n not love/hatred. Did Vandana have an inkling that Maya would suffer a miscarriage? Maybe if she was in the right state of mind yes but she was ridden by grief and above that, guilt. Guilt, for not trusting her son over a daughter in law who would left no stone unturned to destroy her little world.

About Ayan I understand he shdn have goaded Maya like that. He cannot be nice to her or respect her even after what she did to him but he could have given consideration to his niece/nephew and stayed away from Maya. And I strongly disagree to the many arguments made here on the rape issue šŸ˜† That Ayan would have raped her if need be. All he wanted was to snatch that key from her and he used force on her. Except for wanting to snatch that key he never made an attempt to harm her dignity. I know everyone will disagree to this but this is my take on it šŸ˜†

And I am not saying u defended Maya or not 😊 I spoke my views out in general coz I see a vast majority of them supporting Maya blindly. And my point was about Vandana and Saanjh here 😊 Needless to say u know I have always respected ur views even before. I do here too but I just said mine 😊
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Posted: 8 years ago
I was expecting this..
Till now Arjun has seen her beyhadh pyaar...now time for hatred and revenge. Now all her forces will be against Arjun.
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Posted: 8 years ago
27/6/2017

Yesterday when I put in analysis if Vandana had chosen love for Arjun over hatred for Maya bandar would have survived. Today Arjun asked the same question to Vandana. Yes Vandana told Maya is getting punishment for her karma. But what about Arjun, what about the innocent baby. What did the baby do. Why didnt she think about Arjun when she fought with Maya.

Today for the first time Arjun spoke the right things to right people. Yes it was very much needed. What happened to bandar was heat of a moment arguments and its after math. Not premediated murder for which Vandana had to arrested. Arjun told inspector Maya is mad.

But the fun was he making both VM and Saanjh in line and asking inspector to take all mad people. Else take him or he will also go mad.

It was perfect when Vandana told Maya's head is not sane, Arjun asking is your head sane.I was laughing the entire episode. Everyone is mad. Not just Maya. Arjun himself told whether Vandana wants to make him mad like Maya. Same thing I put in analysis yesterday. Maya is mad. Why are the so called sane people behaving logic less.

Actually it was supposed to be an emotional episode where the baby died, but I would say it was the best laugh riot I got in beyhadh. The moral high ground of VM, facade of Maya and even the tears of Dusky all getting the same name madness.

Arjun if you had done this long back, if you had put VM, Maya and Dusky in their place at the right time, bandar would have survived. If you had not allowed these mad women to move you like a football playing with you bandar may have survived.

Today Maya thought she won. Arjun put her in place. Immediately VM thought she won. Arjun put her also in place. Saanjh tried to intervene. She was also put in place.

On a side note I agree, VMs hatred for Maya killed the baby. And baby was the only connecting link between Maya and Arjun. That is gone. So the connection is gone. Arjun was telling there is no love between him and Maya. It was only bandar he wanted. He had love for the person he didnt see, but where was the love for the person carrying the baby. 9 months Maya had carried the baby. If you fake your love towards the woman carrying your child, how could you get the child Arjun. The child went because you didnt love your wife the mother of the child. You asked your punishment is because you loved VM or you loved Maya. Your punishment is because the only relation you were true to was your relation with your madness, your Dusky. Remember I am not anyone's son, anyone's husband, anyone's friend. I am only Dusky ka Duffer. If Maya's sach is Samay, your sach is Dusky. Your madness. Your childhood. So were you mad in childhood Arjun. Were you mentally unstable in childhood. I expected you to be a lonely child, somewhat emotionally deprived child but calling Dusky your madness it seems it was more than a simple emotional instability you suffered in childhood. Why were you afraid of the hospital. What happened to you in the hospital. I had never thought about it. But I want to know about it now duffer. What is your sach.
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Posted: 8 years ago
It's not only Maya ka sach and Arjun ka sach also should get revealed...
Arjun pushing Maya makes me hate Arya,anyways Arya ended...

Shruti di any guess what could be the Arjun thing Maya takes with her when she leaves him...
In season 1,which season is cmg up now,I am not able to results to it..

Anyway I don't ve any trust on Arjun words,tomw again he will go back to dusky ka duffer...


As per Season2 scenes,u ve mentioned dusky will wear bridal dress for Arjun and something will happen..what could be that???

VM curses,when Arjun will start loving Maya and Maya kicking like a football..hope that idiotic samay doesn't come back
Edited by sunithi - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
@sunithi we are going towards Arjun ka sach. Let Maya or perception go. Then hopefully we will get some sach of Arjun or past of Maya. I really want something to move. Enough of mad Maya and Dusky tears and VMs dialogue Maya pagal hai.šŸ˜†šŸ˜†. Even if Ashwin comes back from dead or Ayan gets up it will be good.
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Posted: 8 years ago
Today's epi was surely a comedy circus for me 🤣 Maya who has just had a miscarriage is running around, trying to strangle someone šŸ˜† This woman has tremendous strength šŸ˜† After she suffered her first miscarriage, she managed to lift a heavy marble idol of Ganesha (it has to be marble for Maya Mehrotra being the classy woman she is will not have an idol made of cheap material) And its funny when Arjun and Maya both address their baby as bandar in public Its an endearment used in the presence of family and close friends. U dont go about calling ur baby as a monkey in front of everyone. After the operation first thing Arjun asks doctor was if his monkey is all right? šŸ˜• But lo, even the doctor is super intelligent to automatically figure out monkey is the baby including the police šŸ˜† How come not once did the doctor or police stop Maya/Arjun and asked "Err... bandar? Who?" 🤣 And the scene where Maya goes frantically searching for the baby calling bandar should have been emotional but I was laughing throughout 🤣

I am glad Arjun vented out his anger for the first time but like u said he should have done this long ago. So that Maya realised early on that everyone would not be happy to be an object of her affection and Vandana realised her son is no longer a child who needs protection and scrutiny all the time. I cannot agree to the fact that Arjun has only been Dusky's Duffer. The only moment where he was truly her duffer was when Prem died and had he not, he would have surely failed as a friend on all grounds. Prem was not only Saanjh's dad but he had also been a father figure to Arjun. When Maya tried to ascertain her rights on him, he had no choice but to tell her that in that moment he was Dusky's Duffer and for once he did the right thing. Just because a person is married, doesn't mean that all their other relationships take a backseat everytime. Depending on situations, priorities change but Maya being the unstable woman she is could not understand that. It wasn't like she couldn't live without Arjun for one day. She stooped even low for me when she tried to stop Arjun from going to the funeral. If anything Arjun has been one thing for most of the four years of his life and that is Maya's obsession. He didn't stand by his mother despite seeing how she is being tortured. He knew Vandana was tortured by Maya, his 6th sense had told him that but yet he chose to protect his mad wife. He knew his brother had come after to rescue him and OK lets say seeing Maya's condition he believed right away that she was violated. But did he for once give his brother the benefit of doubt? He knew how conniving and manipulative his wife was, yet he stood by her. Had he stood by her after seeing the tape I would still get it but his accusation against his brother was cemented the moment he laid his eyes on Maya. He very well knew Maya was capable of inflicting wounds on herself. Not once did he spare to think maybe Maya could have done it this time too and accused his brother falsely. Even here he became Maya's Arjun. When Saanjh tried to expose Maya he believed Maya despite the fact that his own conscience warned him about Maya all the time. He overlooked all the relationships in his life to protect Maya. So how was he a Ma da ladla, dusky's duffer or a protecting older brother to Ayan? But yes having said this, I would say that he only half heartedly did everything in his life. Had he really given himself to Maya, he would have helped her deal with her insanity not when matters got worse, but from the time he got into a relationship with her. Arjun couldn't see beyond his own share of problems. Half of him was wallowing in self pity for being Maya's prisoner and the other half was trying to shield Maya. Had he opted the latter whole heartedly matters would have been different today, so would Maya too.
Edited by BeyondHorizon - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
One thing I forgot to put in yesterday analysis. Saanjh telling Vandana, aunty because of your one mistake bandar died.
Really Saanjh. Who was more responsible for that accident, you or Vandana. Yes Vandana reacted, yes she could have chosen love for Arjun, but in the heat of the moment her hatred for Maya stood out. Why you had to pave way for that. Aunty Ayan ka accident hua hai, Maya ne kiya hai. Who said that Saanjh, which started the next chain of events.
Most importantly. Maya you have to trust. I cant leave Dusky. She is my childhood. She is my madness. So Arjun cant leave the madness of his childhood. He has not even accepted he had madness, atleast Maya went to aslyum for 6 months.

The events leading to death of bandar starts from there. Maya and Vandana even Ayan were pawns in the hands of duffer and his madness. Now just telling mistake of Vandana killed bandar. No she is not the only one responsible Saanjh. Bandar was killed because of everyone. Arjun, Ayan, Maya, u, vm, lack of love and the time of unnecessary actions killed bandar.
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Posted: 8 years ago
@beyondhorizon in season 1 itself I had asked without a doctor how did Maya tell mera bacha gone and then immediately after that takes the Ganesha idol. yesterday it was much fun, a woman who had just given birth to a dead baby is running around to the nursery.
See Arjun is called duffer meaning idiot. I had told that usage is incorrect. Such words affects a person mentally. It is the same way calling child bandar. Yes it might be affection, but then if you keep calling the child bandar as he/she is growing up it can affect personality development.

But yes the emotional episode was a laugh riot.
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Posted: 8 years ago
Maya is responsible for Bandar getting killed. Rest people don't hold that much responsibility as mother. Maya enacts in front of arjun that she is doing every possible thing to change then arjun also believes her just like he believes every single time. Arjun s biggest fault he trusted maya. Saanjh biggest fault she was worried for vandana being alone with maya. Vandana biggest fault that she saw a killer of her son so she got angry and wanted to complain to another son. However all are at fault as equal as maya.

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